UKMT September 2019 - A Fish-Abandoning Government

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Junior G-man: Sep 15, 2004; Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma

Culture wars you say? By the Tories you say?

I am shocked, shocked to find that here's gambling going on in this establishment.

# ? Sep 2, 2019 19:53

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namesake: Jun 19, 2006; "When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Angepain posted:

oh boy can't wait for the political football I'm contained in to be kicked around even more, this'll be fun

Nah culture stuff is going to get completely sidelined by Brexit and economics. If they end up doing things like that it'll just be speaking to the people who unironically use 'looney left' anyway.

# ? Sep 2, 2019 19:54

Illuyankas: Oct 22, 2010

I can't imagine why the audience of a person who uses the Palestinian flag to represent Labour are heavily right wing

# ? Sep 2, 2019 19:55

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

Jose posted:

https://twitter.com/chakrabortty/status/1168593619722391553?s=19

Quoting Sun Tzu is such a reliable indicator of a loving idiot, lol

# ? Sep 2, 2019 19:55

Private Speech: Mar 30, 2011; I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.

Angepain posted:

This guy. He's still at it:

https://twitter.com/jsphctrl/status/1168578248093175809

Accurate.

e: I also like these two

https://twitter.com/jsphctrl/status/1168571905110171648

https://twitter.com/jsphctrl/status/1168543831970725889

Private Speech fucked around with this message at 20:07 on Sep 2, 2019

# ? Sep 2, 2019 19:56

peanut-: Feb 17, 2004; Fun Shoe

Jose posted:

https://twitter.com/chakrabortty/status/1168593619722391553?s=19

The Times, every other day: transgenderism is brain disease

Also The Times: the proles are susceptible to being manipulated by their innate prejudices in ways that the metropolitan elite never would be

# ? Sep 2, 2019 19:57

Junior G-man: Sep 15, 2004; Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma

quote:

Speaking to the cabinet earlier, Boris Johnson said EU leaders had clarity on the UK�s position but that he believed negotiations were being �held back� because Brussels believed parliament would find a way to stop a no-deal scenario or cancel Brexit altogether. A senior government official said:

quote:
The impression he was getting from EU leaders was that they will not engage until the prospect of parliament cancelling the referendum was ended.

MPs are effectively considering tomorrow whether to hand control of the negotiations to Jeremy Corbyn. That would be shooting ourselves in the foot and, if Conservative MPs help him to make no deal illegal tomorrow and therefore create another pointless delay, the government�s negotiating position will be wrecked.

What they are effectively voting for is to hold a rapid election. And they will have to explain what they are doing.

I can't work out if these clowns seriously believe that all that it'll take to get serious concessions from the EU on the Irish Border is if the government had a strong grip on Parliament and could do what it wanted. Because even if BXP held a 2/3rd commons majority and Farage was crowned God Emperor, that wouldn't happen.

There is no better negotiating position because the EU is essentially done negotiating. How do these people not get that :psyduck:

# ? Sep 2, 2019 19:58

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

Junior G-man posted:

There is no better negotiating position because the EU is essentially done negotiating. How do these people not get that

The concepts of making rational decisions based on objective facts and arguing in good faith are literally inconceivable to them. All negotiations are lies and bluster, and by Jove we're the best liars and the biggest blusterers there are!

# ? Sep 2, 2019 20:04

coffeetable: Feb 5, 2006; TELL ME AGAIN HOW GREAT BRITAIN WOULD BE IF IT WAS RULED BY THE MERCILESS JACKBOOT OF PRINCE CHARLES

YES I DO TALK TO PLANTS ACTUALLY

best one recently

https://twitter.com/jsphctrl/status/1166624714837676032

e: though i missed

coffeetable fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Sep 2, 2019

# ? Sep 2, 2019 20:06

Sanford: Jun 30, 2007; ...and rarely post!

Metalheads, some you expressed interest in Raised by Owls in the previous thread. You might want to know the singer�s mum is selling some clothes on ebay

# ? Sep 2, 2019 20:11

Junior G-man: Sep 15, 2004; Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma

I swear to gently caress if I see one more journalist going "I've got the big scoop, BoJo might be heading for a GE in October 14! This speech was a ploy! :thunk:

"

Of course it is. Even BoJo's new ~~distraction~~ dog has figured that out.

# ? Sep 2, 2019 20:24

Darth Walrus: Feb 13, 2012

https://twitter.com/ninakauser/status/1168603767631228928?s=21

Whoa.

# ? Sep 2, 2019 20:33

bump_fn: Apr 12, 2004; _{two of them}

what happened

# ? Sep 2, 2019 20:37

Looke: Aug 2, 2013

Say Boris calls for a vote on a GE and Parliament decided actually we don�t want that, enact our legislation. What happens then?

# ? Sep 2, 2019 20:37

xtothez: Jan 4, 2004; College Slice

Looke posted:

Say Boris calls for a vote on a GE and Parliament decided actually we don�t want that, enact our legislation. What happens then?

Hellworld.

You should be familiar with it by now, we've lived in it long enough.

# ? Sep 2, 2019 20:39

Miftan: Mar 31, 2012; Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Looke posted:

Say Boris calls for a vote on a GE and Parliament decided actually we don�t want that, enact our legislation. What happens then?

I think the universe implodes because the opposition just voted against an election.

# ? Sep 2, 2019 20:39

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Looke posted:

Say Boris calls for a vote on a GE and Parliament decided actually we don�t want that, enact our legislation. What happens then?

He'll be found in contempt of parliament, likely with the same devastating consequences as felt by Theresa May.

# ? Sep 2, 2019 20:39

Junior G-man: Sep 15, 2004; Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma

Looke posted:

Say Boris calls for a vote on a GE and Parliament decided actually we don�t want that, enact our legislation. What happens then?

5 week prorogation followed by 2 weeks of inactivity followed by a hard Brexit.

And also a constitutional crisis, probably the biggest since Cromwell, where a quasi-elected leader defies the will of Parliament. God knows. Hopefully a general strike and luxury gay space communism under Jam Man.

# ? Sep 2, 2019 20:40

Pochoclo: Feb 4, 2008; No...; Clapping Larry

Darth Walrus posted:

https://twitter.com/ninakauser/status/1168603767631228928?s=21

Whoa.

This is the timeline where Bill and Ted fail their history class

# ? Sep 2, 2019 21:00

happyhippy: Feb 21, 2005; Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup; Pillbug

Is Boris doing all this so he doesn't have to go and pretend that he is negotiating with the EU?

# ? Sep 2, 2019 21:00

Firos: Apr 30, 2007; Staying abreast of the latest developments in jam communism

https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1168614313483018240?s=20

Lol I wonder if a tory has located a spine.

# ? Sep 2, 2019 21:01

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Ed Vaisey has no loving spine and will do whatever the party tells him to. Although it's possible that the schism in the party is so bad that he is now uncertain which half to back, because he can't work out who'll be paying his cheques when the dust settles.

Source: is local mp and turd.

# ? Sep 2, 2019 21:06

jabby: Oct 27, 2010

https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1168609464192307200
They're all such spineless pricks I wouldn't be surprised if the legislation fails.

Also fully expecting Change UK and the rest of the independents to abstain like cowards knowing they face an election.

# ? Sep 2, 2019 21:08

Pochoclo: Feb 4, 2008; No...; Clapping Larry

They're all loving spineless, maybe there will be like 3 tories who were going to be deselected anyway or hated the party and don't give a gently caress, but they'll be offset by the UKIP Trinity in Labour

# ? Sep 2, 2019 21:09

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

jabby posted:

https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1168609464192307200
They're all such spineless pricks I wouldn't be surprised if the legislation fails.

Also fully expecting Change UK and the rest of the independents to abstain like cowards knowing they face an election.

can't believe Steve Brine is trying to preserve his position

# ? Sep 2, 2019 21:15

Grape: Nov 16, 2017; Happily shilling for China!

Jose posted:

https://twitter.com/chakrabortty/status/1168593619722391553?s=19

Spoiler: They can.

# ? Sep 2, 2019 21:22

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Quoting Sun Tzu is such a reliable indicator of a loving idiot, lol

The Virgin Sun Tzu and the Chad von Clausewitz.

# ? Sep 2, 2019 21:22

Pochoclo: Feb 4, 2008; No...; Clapping Larry

I exclusively quote Benny Hill for all my philosophical arguments

# ? Sep 2, 2019 21:23

Angepain: Jul 13, 2012; what keeps happening to my clothes

CGI Stardust posted:

can't believe Steve Brine is trying to preserve his position

He's just salty that Boris won't listen to him.

# ? Sep 2, 2019 21:24

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Grape posted:

Spoiler: They can.

You have a really low opinion on folks in the North.

Guavanaut posted:

The Virgin Sun Tzu and the Chad von Clausewitz.

I'd like it if people would actually quote recent books on politics and strategy, instead its all about The Prince for some reason. Personally I think that it's because rich fuckers who want to seem smart always hark back to someone saying, in essence, "Be an arsehole".

# ? Sep 2, 2019 21:47

namesake: Jun 19, 2006; "When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Any political theorist that didn't have to deal with a tank is probably of limited value these days.

# ? Sep 2, 2019 21:51

Nuclear Spoon: Aug 18, 2010; I want to cry out
but I don’t scream and I don’t shout
And I feel so proud
to be alive

i won't speak for voters but i can definitely see shitheads in the PLP pulling some TERF poo poo about it when provoked which is bad regardless

# ? Sep 2, 2019 21:51

Bobstar: Feb 8, 2006; KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

Pochoclo posted:

This is the timeline where Bill and Ted fail their history class

I watched Excellent Adventure (or "Bill and Ted's Crazy Journey Through Time", as the ever literal German film titlers call it) again the other day. Still holds up, apart from that one moment when they hug, but you know 2019 Bill and Ted would be too wholesome for that.

# ? Sep 2, 2019 21:58

Tsaedje: May 11, 2007; BRAWNY BUTTONS 4 LYFE

Losing the Tory whip immediately before a snap election isn't necessarily political oblivion for these folk, they're bound to get plenty of press, could easily win as an independent in a remain leaning constituency and then they can join the lib dems as anti brexit heroes

# ? Sep 2, 2019 22:09

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

namesake posted:

Any political theorist that didn't have to deal with a tank is probably of limited value these days.

Žižek still good then?

# ? Sep 2, 2019 22:12

jabby: Oct 27, 2010

https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1168630302916435972
Is ten enough?

# ? Sep 2, 2019 22:13

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