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Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



LastInLine posted:

mainly because socialism is woke by virtue of class consciousness. the whole point of socialism is that class solidarity is the path forward and that divisions along other lines exist solely to break that solidarity. if the gamer version of socialism is wokeness first how does that differ from simple progressivism? wouldnt anyone viewing the world as class struggle view oppressed groups as class allies first without having to do the progressive liberal gymnastics of intersectionality requiring balancing in an inherently unequal world that they seek to preserve?

the questions Private Speech raise are valid because what kind of socialist is unwilling to reduce conflicts to class? once youve thrown that out you arent a socialist no matter what your other beliefs are

im leveling it as criticism against them because its obvious whomever wrote that doesnt understand very much about what they purport to support. i mean if you have to tell socialists not to be classist or racist then you arent talking to a socialist at all

anroid lol

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distortion park
Apr 25, 2011


LastInLine posted:

mainly because socialism is woke by virtue of class consciousness. the whole point of socialism is that class solidarity is the path forward and that divisions along other lines exist solely to break that solidarity. if the gamer version of socialism is wokeness first how does that differ from simple progressivism? wouldnt anyone viewing the world as class struggle view oppressed groups as class allies first without having to do the progressive liberal gymnastics of intersectionality requiring balancing in an inherently unequal world that they seek to preserve?

the questions Private Speech raise are valid because what kind of socialist is unwilling to reduce conflicts to class? once youve thrown that out you arent a socialist no matter what your other beliefs are

im leveling it as criticism against them because its obvious whomever wrote that doesnt understand very much about what they purport to support. i mean if you have to tell socialists not to be classist or racist then you arent talking to a socialist at all

there's a long record* of left wing organisations failing to live up to what you might hope were the minimum standards when it comes to race, gender etc so I think it's important to think clearly and explicitly about these things.

* the others are worse etc etc but that's not an excuse

ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

pointsofdata posted:

there's a long record* of left wing organisations failing to live up to what you might hope were the minimum standards when it comes to race, gender etc so I think it's important to think clearly and explicitly about these things.

* the others are worse etc etc but that's not an excuse

i guess well have to agree to disagree about the ideological purity of the socialist gaming subreddit. leftist schisms have doomed yet another vanguard of the revolution

carry on then
Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

(and can't post for 10 years!)

any socialism that does not explicitly exclude and ban white straight cismen isn't socialism

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

LastInLine posted:

im leveling it as criticism against them because its obvious whomever wrote that doesnt understand very much about what they purport to support.

weird that a gamer on reddit would do such a thing

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
man, that's a whole lotta words for what was originally a throwaway joke likening an asus brand to PRC

Best Bi Geek Squid
Mar 25, 2016
:munch:

quote:

For the first time since Android first launched in 2008, Google’s mobile operating system will not be named after a sweet treat or desert. The successor to Android Pie will simply be called Android 10.

:rip:

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

they named the, uh



seventeenth version of android "android 10"

also lol @ still having a Q codename and pretending they don't. why does google just do the stupidest thing possible every SINGLE SECOND OF THE GOD DAMNED DAY

jesus WEP
Oct 17, 2004


quote:

Queen Cake (internal)
:same:

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

so guys, what did you come up with for 10.0?

Queen cake? Really?

yeah we're not doing that. in fact gently caress you, were done with this, just numbers from here on out

Plank Walker
Aug 11, 2005
there were no Q brands so why bother with a cutesy name if you can’t leverage brand synergy

The Management
Jan 2, 2010

sup, bitch?
next version is going to be 10.1, dessert cat

Agile Vector
May 21, 2007

scrum bored



The Management posted:

next version is going to be 10.1, dessert cat

Astoundingly Ugly Baby
Mar 22, 2006

"...crying bitch cave bitch boy."
- Anonymous Facebook user
what the gently caress is a queen cake

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

Astoundingly Ugly Baby posted:

what the gently caress is a queen cake

i never hgeard of this either but it looks pretty bomb lol

Agile Vector
May 21, 2007

scrum bored



Agile Vector
May 21, 2007

scrum bored



lol

Best Bi Geek Squid
Mar 25, 2016
wait they're replacing the back button with gestures :wtc:

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
did you ever get the feeling the android ui was too intuitive? well worry no more!

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
it's the only option in our stupid bezel-less present

it's notches and gestures all the way down

mystes
May 31, 2006

They should add a gesture to send feedback to Google about their ui decisions.

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

Stymie posted:

it's the only option in our stupid bezel-less present

it's notches and gestures all the way down

android created that when they decided to move from "hardware button that sends you somewhere unpredictable" to "software button that sends you somewhere unpredictable"

now it's an undocumented software gesture that does that

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
android once more following the trail blazed by blackberry

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
remember how popular bb os 10 was? let's do that but in tyool 2019

mystes
May 31, 2006

Hopefully google will integrate Project Soli into android for convenient hands-free gestures like raising a single finger.

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



LastInLine posted:

mainly because socialism is woke by virtue of class consciousness. the whole point of socialism is that class solidarity is the path forward and that divisions along other lines exist solely to break that solidarity. if the gamer version of socialism is wokeness first how does that differ from simple progressivism? wouldnt anyone viewing the world as class struggle view oppressed groups as class allies first without having to do the progressive liberal gymnastics of intersectionality requiring balancing in an inherently unequal world that they seek to preserve?

the questions Private Speech raise are valid because what kind of socialist is unwilling to reduce conflicts to class? once youve thrown that out you arent a socialist no matter what your other beliefs are

im leveling it as criticism against them because its obvious whomever wrote that doesnt understand very much about what they purport to support. i mean if you have to tell socialists not to be classist or racist then you arent talking to a socialist at all

expecting redditors to read theory is laughable at best unless you’re in like r/MoreTankieChapo or r/communism or r/socialism

in fact most self proclaimed socialists outside of reddit probably haven’t read much Marx just because “oh that’s communism not socialism”

FAT32 SHAMER fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Sep 3, 2019

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



wait how is this the goddamn android thread

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
loving nerds can't take a joke, that's how

The Management
Jan 2, 2010

sup, bitch?

mystes posted:

Hopefully google will integrate Project Soli into android for convenient hands-free gestures like raising a single finger.

it’s in the pixel 4. and it will be used as a gimmick by people once and then never again.

edit: even less than force touch.

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

Best Bi Geek Squid posted:

wait they're replacing the back button with gestures :wtc:

infernal machines posted:

did you ever get the feeling the android ui was too intuitive? well worry no more!

the "back" gesture will still mean different things in different context don't you worry

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Boiled Water posted:

the "back" gesture will still mean different things in different context don't you worry

if they could also make the same gesture do two different entirely arbitrary things, depending on whether you began the gesture on the screen or from the edge, that'd be great too

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

infernal machines posted:

if they could also make the same gesture do two different entirely arbitrary things, depending on whether you began the gesture on the screen or from the edge, that'd be great too

great in a way that is awful

edge-cases

The Management
Jan 2, 2010

sup, bitch?

infernal machines posted:

if they could also make the same gesture do two different entirely arbitrary things, depending on whether you began the gesture on the screen or from the edge, that'd be great too

what about a different gesture if you swipe from the top left or the top right?

the one thing google is doing right is not requiring a swipe after a face unlock. it does make home screen notifications worthless, since you can’t look at them anymore, but still a net benefit.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.


fully gestural navigation and loving it



Plank Walker
Aug 11, 2005

makes sense that Back is capitalized, since it's a place, not a direction

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
makes sense that when you drag from the left the arrow pops up pointing left, implying that you're navigating in the opposite direction of the swipe, whereas interacting with any other element or gesture moves the element in the direction of the swipe

Vagrancy
Oct 15, 2005
Master of procrastination
https://twitter.com/davey_burke/status/1168956099984265216?s=09

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

infernal machines posted:



fully gestural navigation and loving it





not as bad as ios where its "gently caress you, no buttons, figure it out for yourself"

SO DEMANDING
Dec 27, 2003

webos devices had a dedicated gestures area (with nifty led lighting that would trail the gestures you made) and there was a back gesture. it was pretty nice.

so yeah ios and android are still totally catching up with webos :c00l:

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akadajet
Sep 14, 2003

all I remember about webos was the conference where all the demo people kept having to make excuses for it stuttering and crashing.

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