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Omobono posted:Sorry, I want double check my understand of the current situation. If by "gently caress things up" you mean "deliberately switch the election date into November" then yes e: Bloody Stupid Johnson is the UK's 77th PM
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Ratjaculation posted:If there is at least one then its a party, if you go by my birthday party attendance hosed up you didn't even go to your own birthday party and left me alone with the cake.
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How does this lords filibuster poo poo work?
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does anyone have that future labour leader polling showing that jess phillips is unpopular with the membership? assuming i didn't imagine it
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https://twitter.com/GossiTheDog/status/1169343260336300034?s=20
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drat, Sandy Martin has a great tie.
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https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2019/09/what-just-happened-stephen-kinnocks-amendment-and-what-does-it-mean This article is fascinating. One para in particular is interesting for what it doesn't say: NS posted:But the second and more important consequence is that because the vote passed by default, there is no division list. Even in defeat, the bill risked creating a far more dangerous blow to Boris Johnson than any effort to delay no deal – a positive majority for an alternative Brexit approach. Had 30 or so Labour MPs actually voted for the deal, the path to a plausible and negotiable deal other than that favoured by Johnson would have been clear. that interpretation is one way to look at it but the other is that by pulling that the lab melts didn't get to raise their flag and have support counted for soft tories by saying 'we will support may's bill and will vote with tories who do'. By succeeding kinnock failed lol. No wonder he was looking shook.
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Jose posted:does anyone have that future labour leader polling showing that jess phillips is unpopular with the membership? assuming i didn't imagine it leftiestats just retweeted it https://twitter.com/LeftieStats/status/1153326333788749824
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https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1169344098576359424 Cards continue to be played close to chest. I'm torn personally. It would be REALLY loving funny to watch BoJo beg for an extention but the shitshow tonight shows he will use every dirty trick in the book to try and get No Deal. If we ended up crashing out because the extention bill wasn't as watertight as we thought it would be a tragedy. UnlimitedSpessmans posted:The clear hatred from all the MPs towards boris owns Genuinely think the Tories might have hosed it by picking a leader Labour MPs hate more than Corbyn.
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Ratjaculation posted:If there is at least one then its a party, if you go by my birthday party attendance  Toby.
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anyone know what bercow was chastising LRM about?
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Haven't been on these threads in a while but came back for the drama. Votes are happening RN.
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Accusing BoJo of lying. It was before he was PM so it's not contempt per-se but pretty close to it.
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I dunno if the stream skipped, but it almost sounds like Bercow ensured the last words of the debate were Russell-Moyle saying "the prime minister allegedly lied twice".
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Nuclear Spoon posted:anyone know what bercow was chastising LRM about? Accusing someone of being a liar, but the stream was glitchy and skipped a bit.
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Delthalaz posted:How does this lords filibuster poo poo work? Various lords have apparently proposed over a hundred different amendments to the bill, all of which have to be discussed and voted upon, so it's an attempt to drag it out until parliament is closed down next week. Edit: this is some weak poo poo right here https://twitter.com/piercepenniless/status/1169307403084554240 Sharrow fucked around with this message at 21:28 on Sep 4, 2019 |
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Boris Johnson: He wanted to be a tiger, but ended up as a rug.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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sauer kraut posted:Accusing someone of being a liar, but the stream was glitchy and skipped a bit. Specifically, being sacked twice for lying. Hopefully, not long before number three.
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I just want to see Bercow kick someone in the chest, please dear God make it happen.
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Sharrow posted:Various lords have apparently proposed over a hundred different amendments to the bill, all of which have to be discussed and voted upon, so it's an attempt to drag it out until parliament is closed down next week. They've managed about 6 in 4 hours
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So what mechanism is there to override the lords filibuster?
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Delthalaz posted:So what mechanism is there to override the lords filibuster? A closure motion on each amendment which reduces it to 30 minutes an amendment (no debate, only voting)...this means everyone needs to stay awake and present
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late but jess phillips sucks poo poo
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Delthalaz posted:So what mechanism is there to override the lords filibuster? There's others, but this is my favourite: An Act for the Abolishing the House of Peers posted:The Commons of England assembled in Parliament, finding by too long experience, that the House of Lords is useless and dangerous to the People of England to be continued, have thought fit to Ordain and Enact, and be it Ordained and Enacted by this present Parliament, and by the Authority of the same, That from henceforth the House of Lords in Parliament, shall be and is hereby wholly abolished and taken away; And that the Lords shall not from henceforth meet or sit in the said House called The Lords House, or in any other House or Place whatsoever, as a House of Lords; nor shall Sit, Vote, Advise, Adjudge, or Determine of any matter or thing whatsoever, as a House of Lords in Parliament: Nevertheless it is hereby Declared, That neither such Lords as have demeaned themselves with Honor, Courage and Fidelity to the Commonwealth, nor their Posterities who shall continue so, shall be excluded from the Publique Councils of the Nation, but shall be admitted thereunto, and have their Free Vote in Parliament, if they shall be thereunto elected, as other persons of Interest elected and qualified thereunto, ought to have.
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So what is being voted on right now?
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bump_fn posted:late but jess phillips sucks poo poo It's true, but the core point she was making today is pretty solid, and she looked good and furious with the Tories while she was doing it Zip! posted:So what is being voted on right now? Snap General Election
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Zip! posted:So what is being voted on right now? Calling an early election
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Zip! posted:So what is being voted on right now? Boris's Trap Election: Yes/No
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what yhis mean
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if we end up no dealing because of the lords filibustering its going to be carnage
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Stupid Boris. Can't even sack himself properly.
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Mass abstention lol
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lol eat poo poo boris
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Tories have gathered for a good ole fashioned circlejerk
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Come on Boris, just announce Martial Law and start arresting everyone.
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congrats boris on his first win in parliament
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happyhippy posted:Come on Boris, just announce Martial Law and start arresting everyone. tbf everyone left in that chamber has probably committed terrible nonce crimes
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HUMILIATION FOR LOSER BORIS
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Government is defeated again in motion on general election As expected, Boris Johnson has suffered another big loss, with the Commons rejecting his motion calling for a general election. Ayes:298 Noes: 56 Aye we want no election, we want no election today?
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you can oval office off posted:congrats boris on his first win in parliament no it still failed
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