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Pilchenstein posted:I'd really like to know where Dom Cummies gets his confidence from, just absolutely wild to go straight at people all the time when he looks like a glass of piss wished to be a real boy.
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Pilchenstein posted:I'd really like to know where Dom Cummies gets his confidence from, just absolutely wild to go straight at people all the time when he looks like a glass of piss wished to be a real boy. Years of getting his own way at the Department for Education.
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lol glhf https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1169917578921369601
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These numbers look quite promising https://www.gov.uk/performance/register-to-vote/registrations-by-age-group
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Guavanaut posted:EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A DVD INTO THE SLOT. ITS THE THICK OF IT AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START DOING THE MOVES ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, THICK. I MESS UP AND VOID MY BOWELS ONTO THE LINO AND THEN SLIP ON MY OWN poo poo AND ROLL AROUND IN IT WHILE SHOUTING QUOTES FROM THE ART OF WAR AND THE PRINCE BY MACKY O'VALLY. VICTORIOUS WARRIORS WIN FIRST AND THEN GO TO WAR, I SHOUT AS I SLIDE poo poo COVERED INTO THE KITCHEN CUPBOARDS AND AN OPEN TIN OF BEANS FALLS ON ME. I SAY IT AND I SAY IT OUTLOUD EVERYDAY TO PEOPLE IN MY GOVERNMENT AS poo poo AND BEANS DRIP OFF OF ME AND ALL THEY DO IS PROVE PEOPLE IN THE LEGISLATURE CAN STILL BE IMMATURE JERKS. AND IVE LEARNED ALL THE LINES AND IVE LEARNED HOW TO MAKE MYSELF AND MY APARTMENT LESS LONELY BY SHOUTING EM ALL. 2 HOURS INCLUDING WIND DOWN EVERY MORNING. THEN I ADVISE BORIS JOHNSon
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[e]: Beaten by Nuclear Spoon. https://twitter.com/JoeMurphyLondon/status/1169918137535488000 That's Mark Field's seat. Unmentioned there is that the party that came second was Labour with 14857 (up from 9899 in 2015). Libdems did have an increase (2,521 in 2015 to 4270 in 2017), but them winning is heavily reliant on the Labour vote pissing into nothing.
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moostaffa posted:These numbers look quite promising https://www.gov.uk/performance/register-to-vote/registrations-by-age-group Young people are more likely to be moving around for work and study though, so you would expect more applications from the under-30s. Whereas olds (homeowners) stay put, no need to register. This graph doesn't control for those differences, I don't think?
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moostaffa posted:These numbers look quite promising https://www.gov.uk/performance/register-to-vote/registrations-by-age-group Problem is where do they live and with the very young where will they be living during November? Like the issue with Labour going hard remain to get more Remainers, it doesn't matter if all these new voters are in safe seats and doesn't really matter if they're in places where Labour is a distant 3rd. It looks good and will help motivate but there's going to have to be a shitload of work put in to turn that into an electoral impact.
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uvar posted:There's plenty of cringe comedy I enjoyed, but I've never "got" Alan Partridge. Watching it feels like when you got up too early on Saturday and had to sit through something else before the good cartoons came on. I only think about it from people talking about how brilliant it is, so I don't know if that's a niche opinion or I'm in the silent majority. im not that big a fan of the early series but i think Mid Morning Matters is excellent and the new BBC one was the best british comedy in years
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Vlex posted:Young people are more likely to be moving around for work and study though, so you would expect more applications from the under-30s. Whereas olds (homeowners) stay put, no need to register. This graph doesn't control for those differences, I don't think? This was last year: 
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namesake posted:Problem is where do they live and with the very young where will they be living during November? Like the issue with Labour going hard remain to get more Remainers, it doesn't matter if all these new voters are in safe seats and doesn't really matter if they're in places where Labour is a distant 3rd. it owns that actually none of our discussion really means anything because its all down to a dozen or two swing seats anyway and the vast majority of all our votes will be thrown in the bin
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HJB posted:I believe this is basically what Emily Thornberry got roundly mocked for saying on QT last night, that a Labour government would put to the public the best deal they could, but that she would personally vote against it in favour of voting to Remain. Hopefully the delay to the election date can be used to change the agreed line to something not quite so much of a bad punchline. I am pretty indifferent between ‘we will definitely Brexit on some kind of Norway-like terms’ and ‘revoke A50 and pretend the whole thing never happened’. Unlike avoiding hard or no-deal Brexit, it just doesn’t make enough of a difference to be worth holding a referendum over. So pick one and move on.
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radmonger posted:Hopefully the delay to the election date can be used to change the agreed line to something not quite so much of a bad punchline. too many people will get upset at htis
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namesake posted:Problem is where do they live and with the very young where will they be living during November? Like the issue with Labour going hard remain to get more Remainers, it doesn't matter if all these new voters are in safe seats and doesn't really matter if they're in places where Labour is a distant 3rd. Students at least can vote either at home or at uni address - so there's usually a tactical voting page going around to direct people to register where is "best".
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my worry about a really soft brexit is how much easier it might be for the tories to undo it compared with outright staying in the EU
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That's excellent news. If nothing else, it'll mean that Boris can be flapping in the wind for a bit longer, and be forced to die in his ditch instead. On the other hand, it does give the Tories another two months to do unlimited propaganda with state resources on top.
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Good. I don't think the tories can spend enough money even with unlimited budget to make boris less of a visible idiot, and humiliating him by forcing him to go past the deadline is a good flex as well as giving us more time to put stuff out too.
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Hentai Jihadist posted:it owns that actually none of our discussion really means anything because its all down to a dozen or two swing seats anyway and the vast majority of all our votes will be thrown in the bin Ahh, but you see: 
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lol the FPTA loving boris over https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1169924414055559171?s=20
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As someone who is much more familiar with US politics, I’m a little surprised that there isn’t more talk about demographic changes in the UK. I would have hoped that simply as a function of time, many thousands of older (and whiter) reactionaries would have died and that many thousands of younger, more diverse socialists would have become eligible to vote over the last three years since the first Brexit vote. Three years is admittedly not a lot of time, but doesn’t this help on the margins?
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Snipee posted:As someone who is much more familiar with US politics, I’m a little surprised that there isn’t more talk about demographic changes in the UK. I would have hoped that simply as a function of time, many thousands of older (and whiter) reactionaries would have died and that many thousands of younger, more diverse socialists would have become eligible to vote over the last three years since the first Brexit vote. Three years is admittedly not a lot of time, but doesn’t this help on the margins? Unless this all happened in about 50 targeted constituencies it doesn't matter. It's a thing, but I don't think it's as big as people make it out to be considering First Past the Post. It's far more relevant to popular votes like say... A second ref
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Marginally yes, but whether that matters compared to other factors remains to be seen.
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Can Johnson choose to not prorogue parliament, if it isn't looking to benefit him? It would make him look like a colossal twat, but then, what wouldn't? It's bad options all the way down for him.
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Snipee posted:As someone who is much more familiar with US politics, I’m a little surprised that there isn’t more talk about demographic changes in the UK. I would have hoped that simply as a function of time, many thousands of older (and whiter) reactionaries would have died and that many thousands of younger, more diverse socialists would have become eligible to vote over the last three years since the first Brexit vote. Three years is admittedly not a lot of time, but doesn’t this help on the margins? On average, yes, but the EU referendum was on a national level, whereas voting in a general election is by constituency. All else being equal, the EU referendum likely would go remain if run today due to demographic shifts. However, when you break that down to constituency level, safe seats of either Labour or Conservative will by and large remain the same. Like the US, success is determined by turnout.
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Snipee posted:As someone who is much more familiar with US politics, I’m a little surprised that there isn’t more talk about demographic changes in the UK. I would have hoped that simply as a function of time, many thousands of older (and whiter) reactionaries would have died and that many thousands of younger, more diverse socialists would have become eligible to vote over the last three years since the first Brexit vote. Three years is admittedly not a lot of time, but doesn’t this help on the margins? This is sort of the Second Referendum theory - that more youngs would vote yes and oldies have died. Like Miftan says, it works less well under FPTP governance. It can make real changes in university-heavy constituencies though, but I don't think there's enough that can flip red to make a permanent change to UK politics.
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He's already got the queen to prorogue it, he could, I guess, try to do a takesie backsie bill but unfortunately his majority is -40something 
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Just listened to the podcast, pretty good I've enjoyed both episodes so far.
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Can Johnson choose to not prorogue parliament, if it isn't looking to benefit him? It would make him look like a colossal twat, but then, what wouldn't? It's bad options all the way down for him. Amazing how every Brexit fuckup contains infinite tiny fractal fuckups to bring further shame to loser BSJ
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Snipee posted:As someone who is much more familiar with US politics, I’m a little surprised that there isn’t more talk about demographic changes in the UK. I would have hoped that simply as a function of time, many thousands of older (and whiter) reactionaries would have died and that many thousands of younger, more diverse socialists would have become eligible to vote over the last three years since the first Brexit vote. Three years is admittedly not a lot of time, but doesn’t this help on the margins? With the FPTP system there are actually precious few constituencies that regularly flip. Also, younger people tend to live in the cities, which generally go labour anyway. Olds will continue to be the major voting bloc in the rural areas and small towns for a long time yet, and they all vote Tory despite the party not having ideologically represented them for decades. Worth also bearing in mind that gen x trends right (though not so severely as boomers). I always find this odd, seeing as they literally watched Thatcher demolish the country around them during their formative years, but the individualism seems to have stuck if often expressed as absolute nihilism rather than neoliberalism per se.
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https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1169571029573939201 Oh. What a surprise. What an unexpected thing to occur. 
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Snipee posted:As someone who is much more familiar with US politics, I’m a little surprised that there isn’t more talk about demographic changes in the UK. I would have hoped that simply as a function of time, many thousands of older (and whiter) reactionaries would have died and that many thousands of younger, more diverse socialists would have become eligible to vote over the last three years since the first Brexit vote. Three years is admittedly not a lot of time, but doesn’t this help on the margins? There's been a few 'older voters dead younger voters eligable' from the #FPBE lot but it doesn't have very good optics. Also while the young are a lot more pro-Remain, I'm not sure how much more socialist they are compared to, say, 2015 or 2010. The loud ones certainly are.
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Guavanaut posted:The only people going on about 'demographic changes in the UK' in terms of elections are the outright racists. I don't think anyone has weaponized the 'demographic changes therefore good things' side of the debate. I think, but don't really have the evidence to back up, that a lot of younger people become much more socialist in their early-mid 20s, coinciding with properly entering the workforce/renting/having to engage with our nightmare benefits system for the first time.
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Police mad at Bozza: https://twitter.com/tompeck/status/1169928986409021441
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Jose posted:lol the FPTA loving boris over I was right, then, proroguing doesn't stop the clock on passing a confidence motion.
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I've got friends trying to tempt me into wow classic and it's getting hard to resist
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