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Prokhor Zakharov
Dec 31, 2008

This is me as I make another great post


Good luck with your depression!

mallratcal posted:

WTF? He was an anti-bullying therapist!? This poo poo can't be real.

He who fights with monsters must take care lest he become a monster

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E the Shaggy
Mar 29, 2010
Vic hires new lawyer, cause you know, that was part of the plan all along!

https://twitter.com/shane_holmberg/...608854298144768

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

E the Shaggy posted:

Vic hires new lawyer, cause you know, that was part of the plan all along!

https://twitter.com/shane_holmberg/...608854298144768

What fly-by-night, outlet mall, two-bit lawyer would take a case this hosed?

Edit: Apparently, people sometimes hire new lawyers who specialize in minimizing the payout to the opposition when a previous lawyer fails and utterly fucks a case, according to twitter.

Covok fucked around with this message at 15:26 on Sep 5, 2019

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Covok posted:

What fly-by-night, outlet mall, two-bit lawyer would take a case this hosed?

Edit: Apparently, people sometimes hire new lawyers who specialize in minimizing the payout to the opposition when a previous lawyer fails and utterly fucks a case, according to twitter.

Which is interesting because Vic's the plaintiff. Although I think in Texas he's on the hook for legal fees.

mallratcal
Sep 10, 2003


Twitter lawyers are speculating that Ty brought in new counsel to protect his law firm. So Ty knows he hosed up and is trying to reduce sanctions his firm will have to pay out.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.
Texas has really strong Anti-SLAPP laws from what I understand. It's basically one of the worst states to file a frivolous libel or slander suit in.

fritz
Jul 26, 2003

https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1169687416006950912

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

https://twitter.com/renfamous/status/1169710053936513027

mallratcal
Sep 10, 2003


lol Vic has been subpoenaed for tomorrow's hearing. That notary fraud is going to blow up.

Edit: too many tomorrows.

mallratcal fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Sep 5, 2019

Piell
Sep 3, 2006

Grey Worm's Ken doll-like groin throbbed with the anticipatory pleasure that only a slightly warm and moist piece of lemoncake could offer


Young Orc
Gif comparison proof
https://twitter.com/noctass/status/1169695286668578816?s=20

Wiggly Wayne DDS
Sep 11, 2010



but where did the tor come from?
https://twitter.com/Touchdown_al/status/1169683362396557312

Maera Sior
Jan 5, 2012

I figured that we probably shouldn't flood this thread with Vic stuff tomorrow and irritate all the people who want to come in here to read actual comics stuff, so I made a thread over in the anime forum if people are willing to post in there: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3898015

IUG
Jul 14, 2007


Ugh, making me read something in ADTRW.

(I'm gonna do it thought because I love seeing chuds get owned.)

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch

Maera Sior posted:

I figured that we probably shouldn't flood this thread with Vic stuff tomorrow and irritate all the people who want to come in here to read actual comics stuff, so I made a thread over in the anime forum if people are willing to post in there: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3898015

a hero. a saint

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Maera Sior posted:

I figured that we probably shouldn't flood this thread with Vic stuff tomorrow and irritate all the people who want to come in here to read actual comics stuff, so I made a thread over in the anime forum if people are willing to post in there: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3898015

Thank you.

TheHan
Oct 29, 2011

Grind, you poor fool!
Grind straight for the stars!
Here's some non-Vic news very slowly making the rounds in indie comic circles.

https://twitter.com/trevoramueller/status/1167276233182388224

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
goddamn i hope all those creators get their books back

TheHan
Oct 29, 2011

Grind, you poor fool!
Grind straight for the stars!

site posted:

goddamn i hope all those creators get their books back

Them not having to go through Krakenprint is the best chance they've ever had at getting those books. Earlier this year I couldn't even get a response from them to give them money, and it seems like that's been the case for a bit now.

Weirdly, a few months ago poor man's Breitbart Bleedingfool put out an article claiming Krakenprint laid off its entire staff, and while that wasn't true they have been having some issues.

https://twitter.com/Iron_Spike/status/1169612118355849216?s=20

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Oh. TUG admitted that picture that went around was of him. So he really is a bullying therapist who now bullies people in comics. That's... okay, yeah.

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
you either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become a guy who wears a jason mask and attempts a career out of being a nazi on youtube until your own viewers doxx and disavow you

Piell
Sep 3, 2006

Grey Worm's Ken doll-like groin throbbed with the anticipatory pleasure that only a slightly warm and moist piece of lemoncake could offer


Young Orc

Dawgstar posted:

Oh. TUG admitted that picture that went around was of him. So he really is a bullying therapist who now bullies people in comics. That's... okay, yeah.

No, see he's a bullying therapist, not an anti-bullying therapist!

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Here's a problem that has a more direct impact on the comic industry than bullying therapists:

https://twitter.com/jendrawscomics/status/1169607881559351297

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
i go to the church of comixology every wednesday

Ornamented Death
Jan 25, 2006

Pew pew!

Esplanade
Jan 6, 2005

Sometime in the not-too-distant future, someone sifting through the rubble of our civilization will find a vast cache of polybagged and perfectly preserved comics and assume they were our holy texts based on the reverence which they were treated.

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
this humanoid had 50 copies of something called 1 spuh-awn, we should investigate this further

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

site posted:

this humanoid had 50 copies of something called 1 spuh-awn, we should investigate this further

Zlogblort nodded sagely Krithnashk. "Ah, yes, the adult of the extinct race sought these as a measure to provide funding for his spawnling's education at higher levels."

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013
On the one hand the whole China tariffs issue is complete stupidity by Trump, but on the other hand publishers being cool with China's horrible treatment of employees and environmental record just to save a few extra bucks a copy they could easily pass on to the consumer with hardly any trouble is kinda poo poo too. And it's the small independent "woke" ones that are the most guilty of this. I don't know, I kinda can't muster up much sympathy.

Kojiro
Aug 11, 2003

LET'S GET TO THE TOP!
It's not "a few extra bucks", the print cost difference between the US and China is such that those books wouldn't actually exist if they couldn't get the cheaper printing. US-based print costs for full-colour books are loving wild in the worst possible way. This is absolutely not a case of Scrooge hoarding a few spare pennies here and there.

Kojiro fucked around with this message at 09:23 on Sep 6, 2019

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

Oh I see! This must be the Bad Opinion Zone!
I don't have my books printed in China, but there's a fairly wide range of reasons printing can be cheaper there that isn't poor employee treatment or bad environmental stuff.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Back in my day comics were mostly printed in the great nation of CANADA.

kefkafloyd
Jun 8, 2006

What really knocked me out
Was her cheap sunglasses

Fangz posted:

I don't have my books printed in China, but there's a fairly wide range of reasons printing can be cheaper there that isn't poor employee treatment or bad environmental stuff.

Aside from those things, a lot of them don't care about trapping, color management, picking, or other finer quality points. But if that isn't important to the buyer, then it's hard to justify a US or European and their expense. It's also questionable as to whether Chinese printers source paper in forestry-responsible ways, but we had problems with that too that only got sorted out a few decades ago.

I'm biased though, I work for a global print OEM (that is, printers buy our plates, workflow software, color products, etc) and as far as I know China doesn't buy from us. If you're a small publisher, the cost of a $7K vs $18K print run is very, very hard to ignore. It's hard to blame people when they're small operations running on kickstarters trying to get stuff published that the big names won't touch. That amount of money is the difference between things happening and not at all for some of these niche projects. I totally get why a small comic creator or publisher would go that route, because a lot of printers in the US are too busy chasing variable data and see the mid-low end of shorter run books as a lost market. The tariffs are really dumb and will not help printers in the US, just like they're actively harmin US farmers or other things because they were done in a profoundly stupid way and should be eliminated post-haste.

I'm likely one of the few people who supports indie comics who is disappointed about printing in China, but again, my biases. When I had the opportunity to lead a collaboration zine, I had it printed in the United States. Could I have gotten it cheaper in china? Absolutely. But it would have been pretty hypocritical of me considering my customers are US printers. But that's a personal choice and I don't hold it against indie publishers from using non-American or European printing because they might not get to publish otherwise.

kefkafloyd fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Sep 6, 2019

Kojiro
Aug 11, 2003

LET'S GET TO THE TOP!
UK print costs are actually pretty reasonable for full-colour, even for small runs- just to throw that out there in case there's any brits reading this and despairing. I've compared prices with American friends before and the difference is pretty absurd.

Of course, that's pre-brexit thinking....

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

Oh I see! This must be the Bad Opinion Zone!
Yeah I understand (or at least, have heard on the grapevine) that the US is way worse than Europe in both quality and price, I don't really know why.

Fangz fucked around with this message at 13:43 on Sep 6, 2019

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy

Rhyno posted:

Back in my day comics were mostly printed in the great nation of CANADA.

Back in the very recent day we had a legit pulp and paper industry :(

kefkafloyd
Jun 8, 2006

What really knocked me out
Was her cheap sunglasses
Like all places, there's a range of quality and prices, you have to look at individual printers and their work. European and North American printers are far more alike than different in terms of quality standards, at least the major OEMs (Kodak, Heidelberg, Komori, Fujifilm) play in all those markets and supply to pretty much everybody. There's no margin at all in print and everybody is dying a slow death.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Jordan7hm posted:

Back in the very recent day we had a legit pulp and paper industry :(

What happened, out of curiosity?

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy

Dawgstar posted:

What happened, out of curiosity?

The prematurely announced death of the newspaper and other paper media, the rise of the Canadian dollar through the first decade of the 2000s, the softwood lumber duties... there were a bunch of bankruptcies and closings at the end of the last decade.

KoldPT
Oct 9, 2012
the rio de janeiro mayor ordered a book fair to stop selling Avengers Children's Crusade, not because it is a terrible book, but because hulkling and wiccan kiss

http://www.universohq.com/noticias/prefeito-do-rio-de-janeiro-determinou-que-hq-da-marvel-seja-recolhida-na-bienal-do-livro/

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E the Shaggy
Mar 29, 2010
Sorry to keep bringing back things to Vic but the hearing is today and well...

https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1169964877026406400?s=20

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