2019 NFC North: it's not going to get better

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Rooster Brooster: Mar 30, 2001; Maybe it doesn't really matter anymore.

I remember getting the impression during the Eagles game in the playoffs last year that Nagy had totally abandoned his usual gameplan. Like, there wasn't a lot of pre-snap movement, there weren't a lot of fake handoffs or tosses, he went with a straight ahead line up, hike, throw or run.

I got that same feeling last night. No misdirection, no movement, everything felt very static.

I've not re-watched either game and done any real analysis with prior games last season (am a lazy person), but yeah. Anyone get that same feeling? It feels stark to me but maybe outcomes are coloring my perceptions.

# ? Sep 6, 2019 20:32

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KDdidit: Mar 2, 2007; Grimey Drawer

I hope they cut Trey Burton so he can get whatever help he needs, because you just can't count on him to play when you need it.

e: doesn't help they wasted a second on Shaheen

# ? Sep 6, 2019 20:37

Play: Apr 25, 2006; Strong stroll for a mangy stray

Leon Einstein posted:

B-but it was actually a bad throw you see.

Seriously lol. The only thing "bad" about it is that it floated a bit more than he wanted and he wasn't able to hit MVS in stride, which could've resulted in a touchdown the way the corner was trailing him. Still a great throw because he put it where his guy could get it and the defense couldn't. You can't expect literal perfection on every play

# ? Sep 6, 2019 20:37

TITTIEKISSER69: Mar 19, 2005; SAVE THE BEES
PLANT MORE TREES
CLEAN THE SEAS
KISS TITTIESS

I miss Jordan Howard already

# ? Sep 6, 2019 20:48

Bird in a Blender: Nov 17, 2005; It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

TITTIEKISSER69 posted:

I miss Jordan Howard already

Nagy would have done the same thing, run him 5 times, get 20 yards, then bench him for the rest of the game.

# ? Sep 6, 2019 20:59

Timby: Dec 23, 2006; Your mother!

Rooster Brooster posted:

I remember getting the impression during the Eagles game in the playoffs last year that Nagy had totally abandoned his usual gameplan. Like, there wasn't a lot of pre-snap movement, there weren't a lot of fake handoffs or tosses, he went with a straight ahead line up, hike, throw or run.

I got that same feeling last night. No misdirection, no movement, everything felt very static.

I've not re-watched either game and done any real analysis with prior games last season (am a lazy person), but yeah. Anyone get that same feeling? It feels stark to me but maybe outcomes are coloring my perceptions.

I think it's very possible that Nagy's offense has been figured out, because it's extremely similar to Andy Reid's.

The difference is that Reid has an MVP under center, and Nagy has the titty-kisser.

# ? Sep 6, 2019 21:00

Rooster Brooster: Mar 30, 2001; Maybe it doesn't really matter anymore.

Timby posted:

I think it's very possible that Nagy's offense has been figured out, because it's extremely similar to Andy Reid's.

The difference is that Reid has an MVP under center, and Nagy has the titty-kisser.

I don't double it, and besides having the MVP, Nagy is no Andy Reid.

But it doesn't look "figured out" to me as much as it looks like they are not even running the same offense anymore.

# ? Sep 6, 2019 21:05

Niwrad: Jul 1, 2008

Teams just know that you stack the box and don't let Trubisky scramble. He can't make NFL throws in the pocket. Nagy is a bad playcaller but I don't think their scheme is really bad.

It'll be the same Nagy as last year. They'll lose games and people will point out they ran the ball 4 times and Nagy will say "that's on me we can't abandon the run". Then he'll do the same poo poo next week. Also Mitch will say "I need to do better" after every game but not actually get better.

# ? Sep 6, 2019 21:13

Niwrad: Jul 1, 2008

If you look last year, the Rams were the team that figured the Bears offense out. After that, the Bears offense was utter trash and Nagy had no answer. Seems like an offseason didn't change that either.

# ? Sep 6, 2019 21:15

Impossibly Perfect Sphere: Nov 6, 2002; They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!

As I seem to recall, it was the Bears that "figured" the Rams out.

# ? Sep 6, 2019 21:23

Niwrad: Jul 1, 2008

Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:

As I seem to recall, it was the Bears that "figured" the Rams out.

Bears defense destroyed them. The Bears offense was bad and Trubisky was comically inept.

# ? Sep 6, 2019 21:30

Dexo: Aug 15, 2009; A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

Sigh, plz Lauri, Coby and Wendell don't let me down.

# ? Sep 6, 2019 21:45

Styles Bitchley: Nov 13, 2004; FOR THE WIN FOR THE WIN FOR THE WIN

So many hot takes and season projections today off a Week 1 game where both teams have new coaches. Packers won this same game last year close, and what happened after that?

Bears fans just need to R-E-L-A-X

That said I look forward to next week's matchup with Trubisky against Fangio's team.

# ? Sep 6, 2019 21:47

fishing with the fam: Feb 29, 2008; Durr

I know that Nagy might have looked like rookie coach, but it turns out that isn't the case.

# ? Sep 6, 2019 21:59

mastershakeman: Oct 28, 2008; by vyelkin

Niwrad posted:

Teams just know that you stack the box and don't let Trubisky scramble. He can't make NFL throws in the pocket. Nagy is a bad playcaller but I don't think their scheme is really bad.

It'll be the same Nagy as last year. They'll lose games and people will point out they ran the ball 4 times and Nagy will say "that's on me we can't abandon the run". Then he'll do the same poo poo next week. Also Mitch will say "I need to do better" after every game but not actually get better.

Watching that really bad pass to Kevin king , where the packers had a spy on trubs, made me realize trubs may be the new Donovan McNabb. Spy him so he can't gain easy yardage and let his inaccurate arm stall every drive. He'll hit some big plays but not consistently

Niwrad posted:

If you look last year, the Rams were the team that figured the Bears offense out. After that, the Bears offense was utter trash and Nagy had no answer. Seems like an offseason didn't change that either.

Two of Mitchs best games were after the Rams game , packers and 49ers , so I dunno about that

# ? Sep 6, 2019 22:13

Play: Apr 25, 2006; Strong stroll for a mangy stray

Rooster Brooster posted:

I don't double it, and besides having the MVP, Nagy is no Andy Reid.

But it doesn't look "figured out" to me as much as it looks like they are not even running the same offense anymore.

Yeah I was gonna say, it didn't look all that much like Andy Reid's offense yesterday. A bunch of zone reads (is that really necessary?) and some RPOs but nothing very creative. There was some pre-snap movement but most of it didn't figure into the play and was just done for defense-reading/matchup reasons.

# ? Sep 6, 2019 22:25

Styles Bitchley: Nov 13, 2004; FOR THE WIN FOR THE WIN FOR THE WIN

fishing with the fam posted:

I know that Nagy might have looked like rookie coach, but it turns out that isn't the case.

Talking about Pagano and LaFleur

# ? Sep 6, 2019 22:25

Rod Hoofhearted: Jun 18, 2000; I am a ghost

GNU Order posted:

Mitch will never be a top 10 30 QB

# ? Sep 6, 2019 22:25

Niwrad: Jul 1, 2008

mastershakeman posted:

Two of Mitchs best games were after the Rams game , packers and 49ers , so I dunno about that

They only put up 14 on the garbage Niners and Mitch threw like one pass downfield all game. He was decent in the Packers game but they had one of the worst defenses in the game. He was fine from a "game manager" point of view. But I wouldn't consider either performance good. Lot of guys can throw for 230 yards against bad defenses in this league.

# ? Sep 6, 2019 22:32

MJeff: Jun 2, 2011; THE LIAR

Davis, Hand and Ragnow all questionable for Sunday. Kind of surprised they're even that optimistic about it.

# ? Sep 6, 2019 22:55

Gonz: Dec 22, 2009; "Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"

I mean, it's better than the alternative, which is the PUP list. They'll probably be back in the next few weeks if all goes well.

# ? Sep 6, 2019 22:57

Play: Apr 25, 2006; Strong stroll for a mangy stray

MJeff posted:

Davis, Hand and Ragnow all questionable for Sunday. Kind of surprised they're even that optimistic about it.

it's the freaking cardinals though!! looking at the Lions schedule it's basically a must-win game for them because if you can't beat the drat cardinals then who can you beat??

# ? Sep 6, 2019 23:05

Styles Bitchley: Nov 13, 2004; FOR THE WIN FOR THE WIN FOR THE WIN

Play posted:

if you can't beat the drat cardinals then who can you beat??

daaaaaaaaaaaaaBears

# ? Sep 6, 2019 23:24

Monkeycheese: Feb 24, 2002; ninja minúsculo

Styles Bitchley posted:

Talking about Pagano and LaFleur

Pagano has been a coordinator before too so still wrong

# ? Sep 7, 2019 00:40

Styles Bitchley: Nov 13, 2004; FOR THE WIN FOR THE WIN FOR THE WIN

Monkeycheese posted:

Pagano has been a coordinator before too so still wrong

No poo poo, we're talking about expectations for staff on a new team after one loving game.

# ? Sep 7, 2019 00:52

R.D. Mangles: Jan 10, 2004

it's time to bail on trubisky and begin the Clayton Thorson Era

# ? Sep 7, 2019 03:13

Gonz: Dec 22, 2009; "Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ME996OtTOAI

# ? Sep 7, 2019 03:33

Monkeycheese: Feb 24, 2002; ninja minúsculo

Styles Bitchley posted:

No poo poo, we're talking about expectations for staff on a new team after one loving game.

I actually misread things and due to a reply to you thought you said pagano was a rookie at his position so my bad

# ? Sep 7, 2019 05:54

nerve: Jan 2, 2011; SKA SUCKS

holy poo poo i forgot trubs had a 6td/0int game last season

# ? Sep 7, 2019 06:45

Parallelwoody: Apr 10, 2008

I, for one, and ready to crown the lions. Division champs baby.

# ? Sep 7, 2019 07:13

Hizawk: Jun 18, 2004; High on the Lions.

Vic Fangio is going to exploit the gently caress out of Trubinsky next week and the bears are going to start 0-2.

That's really good for the Lions.

# ? Sep 7, 2019 07:19

Dexo: Aug 15, 2009; A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

Good thing the Broncos offense will likely be trash and the Bears will be playing a QB who isn't Aaron Rodgers.

# ? Sep 7, 2019 12:51