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OwlFancier posted:Labour should surely want as many head to heads as possible because every one is a chance for corbyn to just announce policies on national TV and control the conversation? Yeah, I'd fully expect them to just say 'sure' because any chance to get Corbyn actually talking policy in front of a national audience is just votes in the bag. E: 119 years ago in 1900, the first Pan-African Conference is held. thespaceinvader fucked around with this message at 13:11 on Sep 7, 2019 |
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AceOfFlames posted:That except really frightened me. I already feel pressured enough to make enough money to live but that looks like a society in which you will be pressured to meet any number of unfair standards to be "well rounded". It's bad enough that I am apparently the only person in my social circle that doesn't exercise beyond walking (isn't that enough?), can you imagine having your entire non work activities judged by society? your unfair standard is 'be interesting'? quote:For instance, the renowned historian of sexuality Dagmar Herzog shared a conversation with several East German men in their late forties in 2006. They told her that “it was really annoying that East German women had so much sexual self-confidence and economic independence. Money was useless, they complained. The few extra Eastern Marks that a doctor could make in contrast with, say, someone who worked in the theater, did absolutely no good, they explained, in luring or retaining women the way a doctor’s salary could and did in the West. ‘You had to be interesting.’ What pressure. And as one revealed: ‘I have much more power now as a man in unified Germany than I ever did in communist days.’”
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OwlFancier posted:I'm not enormously sure that would end well for boris...
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AceOfFlames posted:That except really frightened me. I already feel pressured enough to make enough money to live but that looks like a society in which you will be pressured to meet any number of unfair standards to be "well rounded". It's bad enough that I am apparently the only person in my social circle that doesn't exercise beyond walking (isn't that enough?), can you imagine having your entire non work activities judged by society? I’m thoroughly convinced you’re actually just a pissweak troll and not a real person at this point, jfc
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Sanitary Naptime posted:I’m thoroughly convinced you’re actually just a pissweak troll and not a real person at this point, jfc
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Sanitary Naptime posted:I’m thoroughly convinced you’re actually just a pissweak troll and not a real person at this point, jfc I have endless faith in goon awkwardness. Though maybe the forum's a bit better these days, dunno.
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Cheesus posted:But it allows the BBC to explain that despite what they viewers lying eyes and ears tell them, BoJo is clearly the winner every time. That's what the BBC simply existing does, but actually putting him on the screen works contrary to that. The BBC can poo poo out bollocks all day long without actually showing corbyn but if they put him in a debate it's giving him a platform.
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Sanitary Naptime posted:I’m thoroughly convinced you’re actually just a pissweak troll and not a real person at this point, jfc Oh I assure you I am real. I just dump the thoughts I don't dare express here because I believe the people on this forum are the most aware of the troubles facing the world and thus are the best equipped to understand where I am coming from and thus come to a solution. I mean, I cannot just go up to the people I know in real life and go "Hi, I am AoF. I am 32, never had any romantic relationship, have a grand total of one friend who lives across the continent, all other friends I have can be counted in one hand and eventually almost moved even further away and broke contact, have no hobbies because I arrive home too tired to do anything, have sought therapy 4 times and nothing worked, live in a country where even though I have completed courses all the way to B1 level still can't speak the language and barely understand it because I have no one to talk to, took 9 years to complete a 5 year degree in something I hate and live in perpetual fear of getting fired. I also live in fear that I am mugged, which I have been repeatedly meaning I have never vacationed anywhere without my parents and thing everything is meaningless since I fear society will collapse in the next 10 years". I'd be sent to an asylum, laughed at or beaten up, especially since the events of the past few years have conclusively proven that most people are shallow low key sociopaths. AceOfFlames fucked around with this message at 14:25 on Sep 7, 2019 |
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OwlFancier posted:That's what the BBC simply existing does, but actually putting him on the screen works contrary to that. The BBC can poo poo out bollocks all day long without actually showing corbyn but if they put him in a debate it's giving him a platform. If, say, Trump debated Sanders and the latter absolutely mopped the floor with the former, our media would naturally frame the narrative as a tie with shitloads of false equivalencies and it would absolutely influence a significant number of viewers to reconsider what they actually saw.
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But those people wouldn't have voted for Sanders in the first place. Others will watch, be persuaded, and won't subsequently change their mind.
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AceOfFlames posted:Oh I assure you I am real. I just dump the thoughts I don't dare express here because I believe the people on this forum are the most aware of the troubles facing the world and thus are the best equipped to understand where I am coming from and thus come to a solution. Stop looking for people to provide you with solutions, because my take from that is that you want people to say the magic words that will justify how you currently think and feel. You’re not going to find that here. Instead, embrace the concept of Marxist self criticism as a means to making yourself a better person in a constructive way that is about your own self betterment. And yes, you would, and it would probably do you some loving favours at this stage. Nobody talks like that, relationships are a gradual and natural process, and honestly if you haven’t picked up on that by now then I would seek some professional help. I’m not asking this to be a oval office, I’m inquiring earnestly, but are you autistic? It might be worth looking into if you’re having this much trouble with social interaction, and it’s definitely not out the norm for people to be diagnosed with it for the first time at ages older than yours.
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Cheesus posted:Sorry, I'm probably letting my americanism show. Electoral law over here obliges broadcasters to give each party equal airtime, and to keep their 'analysis' of stuff like debates at least reasonably balanced. The papers will be as partisan as possible, but at least on TV people will tend to see actual clips of the debate which will be (fairly) reasonably chosen.
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Sanitary Naptime posted:I’m not asking this to be a oval office, I’m inquiring earnestly, but are you autistic? It might be worth looking into if you’re having this much trouble with social interaction, and it’s definitely not out the norm for people to be diagnosed with it for the first time at ages older than yours. When I began my latest course of therapy that was the first thing I asked. I ended up maxing out my health insurance deductible in an extended test that claimed I am not. I do think said test was kind of suspect though. There was an entire "recognizing emotions" section which consisted of photos of a guy making the hammiest most exaggerated facial expressions ever and being asked what he was feeling. There wasn't any apparent test of social interaction either. If that was a test for autism, it would probably only pick up on the lost low functioning cases. Funnily enough, the few people I met who have openly claimed they were autistic were nicer and interested in what I had to say than most people I know. AceOfFlames fucked around with this message at 14:45 on Sep 7, 2019 |
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Plank Sanction posted:Absolutely. This is a sure fire way to make Corbyn look like the adult in the room when Johnson starts bumbling. Sure, his bluster might work on a few gammons but the liberals will flock to Corbs. when given the choice between a fascist and a socialist,
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https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1170328214612447234 Perhaps the plan is simply to go to court and try to spin out the appeals process until the time runs out.
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jabby posted:Electoral law over here obliges broadcasters to give each party equal airtime, and to keep their 'analysis' of stuff like debates at least reasonably balanced. Which is why the Tories have dodged TV debates the last two elections.
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jabby posted:https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1170328214612447234 Except they can just hold a vote for contempt of parliament and implement their own penalty. He's not breaking an old "law" on the books with a fixed penalty, he's going against a parliamentary vote.
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AceOfFlames posted:That except really frightened me. I already feel pressured enough to make enough money to live but that looks like a society in which you will be pressured to meet any number of unfair standards to be "well rounded". It's bad enough that I am apparently the only person in my social circle that doesn't exercise beyond walking (isn't that enough?), can you imagine having your entire non work activities judged by society? What those DDR brosephs were complaining about was not being given a bunch of free points just for being born with a dong and having a masculine gender identity, because socialist gender equality legislation made women less financially dependent on men. That's not a fair thing to ask for, and it's garbage incel logic. Which isn't to say that everything should be harder and less pleasant, just that "I should be able to work less hard for more gain" is a fair thing to ask, but "I should be able to work less hard than other people for more gain" is not.
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Verizian posted:Except they can just hold a vote for contempt of parliament and implement their own penalty. He's not breaking an old "law" on the books with a fixed penalty, he's going against a parliamentary vote. Dominic Cummings was found in contempt of Parliament in March and look where he is now lol
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Guavanaut posted:Which isn't to say that everything should be harder and less pleasant, just that "I should be able to work less hard for more gain" is a fair thing to ask, but "I should be able to work less hard than other people for more gain" is not. Fair enough.
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I thought this was great. https://twitter.com/chrismasonbbc/status/1170240267968028677
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I know I'm a lurker and don't have any right to make demands, nevertheless AOF is not going to be swayed by anyone outside of themselves. It's pointless and just feeds into their worldview.
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Doccykins posted:Dominic Cummings was found in contempt of Parliament in March and look where he is now lol It's up to parliament if they wish to punish or not. Back then there was a Tory majority. I'm sure some of them right now would love to stick him in the tower.
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:
Gonna need a location on google maps. Tempted to go out with an old pair of underwear and a staplegun.
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:
Technically it doesn't say HOW to wear them. Trousers around ankles time!
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Sloth Life posted:I know I'm a lurker and don't have any right to make demands, nevertheless AOF is not going to be swayed by anyone outside of themselves. It's pointless and just feeds into their worldview. they don't even live here, i honestly think they're just attracted to the thread that's currently most catastrophizing, i'm not sure why AoF hung about. not that i'm complaining mind, none of our brains work right.
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My message to ace of flames is thus. Take it to e/n, nobody here cares about your incel bullshit. This certainly doesn't belong in the uk politics thread.
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I think it's an elaborate humiliation fetish.
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OwlFancier posted:I think it's an elaborate humiliation fetish. Do not seek an elaborate fetish where a simpler solution of "goon in the well" would suffice just fine For your elaborate fetish needs, please visit the algorithmic pornoportal ukmt where we are all very definitely hosed
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Namtab posted:This certainly doesn't belong in the uk politics thread. My balls itch
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coffeetable posted:your unfair standard is 'be interesting'? quote:“A Danish person has no idea what it feels like to not have medical care or free access to university education,” an awed Roosh reports. “They have no fear of becoming homeless or permanently jobless. The government’s soothing hand will catch everyone as they fall. To an American like myself, brainwashed to believe that you need to earn things like basic health care or education by working your rear end off, it was quite a shock.”
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big scary monsters posted:Remember also when shithead "pickup artist" Roosh got so angry about being constantly rejected by Danish women that he wrote a whole book about it? The funny part is that free university education and healthcare is more the norm by European standards than anything, the vaunted nordic social state is mainly in benefits.
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I just can't seem to square the circle set forth by society. On one hand scores of well intentioned therapists say "love yourself! You are good enough" and on the other everyone else says "Do CrossFit! Enjoy your job! Don't just do what you're told, go above and beyond! Travel! Make lots of friends! Try out new careers! Try! IMPROVE! WORK! WHY ARE YOU DOING NOTHING? What do you mean you say at home and browsed the internet all weekend for the 3rd month straight? You think "free" time is for doing nothing? DO SOMETHING!" I do nothing with my free time, I get afraid of trying because people will no I did nothing and the cycle repeats. Am I supposed to just ignore it and risk further ostracism? My job as a computer touched is the only thing I have. And yet it's not enough? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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AceOfFlames posted:I just can't seem to square the circle set forth by society. On one hand scores of well intentioned therapists say "love yourself! You are good enough" and on the other everyone else says "Do CrossFit! Enjoy your job! Don't just do what you're told, go above and beyond! Travel! Make lots of friends! Try out new careers! Try! IMPROVE! WORK! WHY ARE YOU DOING NOTHING? You think "free" time is for doing nothing? DO SOMETHING!" I do nothing with my free time, I get afraid of trying because people will no I did nothing and the cycle repeats. Am I supposed to just ignore it and risk further ostracism? My job as a computer touched is the only thing I have. And yet it's not enough? If you're seriousposting, this should either be in e/n or it should be something you discuss with your therapist.
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AceOfFlames posted:I just can't seem to square the circle set forth by society. On one hand scores of well intentioned therapists say "love yourself! You are good enough" and on the other everyone else says "Do CrossFit! Enjoy your job! Don't just do what you're told, go above and beyond! Travel! Make lots of friends! Try out new careers! Try! IMPROVE! WORK! WHY ARE YOU DOING NOTHING? You think "free" time is for doing nothing? DO SOMETHING!" I do nothing with my free time, I get afraid of trying because people will no I did nothing and the cycle repeats. Am I supposed to just ignore it and risk further ostracism? My job as a computer touched is the only thing I have. And yet it's not enough? I know I'm posting into the void and you really should just make an E/N thread and gently caress off into it, but you know that both can be true right? You can learn to like and accept yourself AND realise that to be really fulfilled, happy, content, whatever, you might need to change a few things. Anyway, you aren't going to get the therapy you need here. Unless you can focus on therapeutic angry shouting about the state of UK politics and/or crisps.
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