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Who do you wish to win the Democratic primaries?
This poll is closed.
Joe Biden, the Klansman 8 0.91%
Bernie Sanders, the Hand Flailer 578 65.76%
Elizabeth Warren, the Plan Maker 185 21.05%
Kamala Harris, the Cop Lord 4 0.46%
Cory Booker, the Super Hero Wannabe 0 0%
Julian Castro, the Twin 3 0.34%
Kirsten Gillibrand, the Franken Killer 3 0.34%
Pete Buttigieg, the Troop Sociopath 9 1.02%
Robert Francis O'Rourke, the Fake Latino 2 0.23%
Jay Inslee, the Climate Alarmist 4 0.46%
Marianne Williamson, the Crystal Queen 19 2.16%
Andrew Yang, the $1000 Fool 19 2.16%
Tulsi Gabbard, the Muslim Hater 8 0.91%
Amy Klobuchar, the Comb Enthusiast 1 0.11%
Just like in real life, nobody voted for Hickenlooper 2 0.23%
Jeffrey Epstein, the MCC Most Hated 9 1.02%
KKKillary KKKlinton 16 1.82%
Some other idiot not in this list 9 1.02%
Total: 879 votes
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gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
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Office Pig posted:

https://twitter.com/postopinions/status/1169741682214100992?s=21
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As a black man, anytime I hear population control I think this is the intended consequence. It was a terrible answer.

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StratGoatCom
Aug 6, 2019

Our security is guaranteed by being able to melt the eyeballs of any other forum's denizens at 15 minutes notice


Office Pig posted:

Warren has been making some extremely terrible good friends lately.
https://twitter.com/jonallendc/status/1170375199566499848

I just knew this idiot would be back; she's like a bad penny. I swear to god, if Clinton manages to find some way to gently caress up the last chance the dems have to to stop the republicans and the descent into fascist hell.... I'll break my teetotaler oath and drink myself into a stupor for a month and hope the nukes land during that bender. :smith:

And I just know that Warren would be fool enough to take advice from her - she Did A Race Science at the behest of fuckmothering PODCAST HOSTS :allbuttons:

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

GreyjoyBastard posted:

yeah, in the primary the number of people who would vote for Warren if only she didn't speak to the Clintons :ohdear: is probably functionally zero

There is a small subset of Warren voters who seem to think that she's more or less equivalent in terms of policy/ideology to Sanders and as a result is preferable due to being a woman (plus whatever subjective positive impression they have), and all of these sorts of things combined contribute to disproving this notion (even if each individually might not be enough).

gohmak posted:

As a black man, anytime I hear population control I think this is the intended consequence. It was a terrible answer.

He literally just said he supports increasing access to birth control through funding organizations that help with that sort of thing*, and didn't bring it up in the context of climate change himself (the person asking the question did). The alternative was for him to say "no I don't support providing funding to organizations that help provide access to contraceptives/birth control in other countries." There's no possible answer that wouldn't have been interpreted maliciously.

And I seriously doubt anyone in good faith thinks that he has some secret goal of curbing non-white births, lol.

* specifically in reference to the Mexico City Policy which Trump reactivated that bans federal funding to organizations that perform abortions

Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Sep 7, 2019

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

kidkissinger posted:

What possible reason would anyone have to reach out to Clinton other than to curry favor with a branch of the party that has no actual constituency?

Ask her for what she would do in situation and then 100% of the time do the opposite

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
And to imagine I was worried about Warren all this time, when she's just another surrogate for the failure machine.

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

steinrokkan posted:

And to imagine I was worried about Warren all this time, when she's just another surrogate for the failure machine.

If Biden keeps sundowning the establishment will raise her up and when Donald Trump wins the general they will say it was because she was too far left.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib

HootTheOwl posted:

If Biden keeps sundowning the establishment will raise her up and when Donald Trump wins the general they will say it was because she was too far left.

Yeah it owns

https://twitter.com/papapishu/status/746803108949409793?lang=en

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf
https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1170471571041001476

:lol:

rscott
Dec 10, 2009
I mean, a 15 year old A4 vert is like a $10k car tops, it seems more ironic in that regard than anything

rscott
Dec 10, 2009
https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1170495024255164416?s=19

What the gently caress is wrong with with Massachusetts

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

rscott posted:

https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1170495024255164416?s=19

What the gently caress is wrong with with Massachusetts

White people.

But this is a post for the state/local thread regardless.

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
https://twitter.com/TYTPolitics/status/1170446747493117952
If you were wondering whether Warren deviated from the formula and actually answered the question then you can rest easy with the knowledge that no, she did not.

GonadTheBallbarian
Jul 23, 2007


Lightning Knight posted:

White people.

But this is a post for the state/local thread regardless.

Kennedy winning would be a national disaster

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

GonadTheBallbarian posted:

Kennedy winning would be a national disaster

All those memes about poor Republican stock and then they go elect a defective aristocratic inbred.

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

The Kennedy bloodline is ancient, and powerful. We need their strength

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
It is increasingly funny to me that Elizabeth Warren goes off on some dipshit tangent about DOD corruption after signing a blank check over to one of the most corrupt fonts of graft on earth, like she doesn't actually believe in anything left of center and exists for people who value the image of doing something more than taking meaningful action.

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

GonadTheBallbarian posted:

Kennedy winning would be a national disaster

AvP tagline, etc.

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything

Lightning Knight posted:

White people.

But this is a post for the state/local thread regardless.

Warren has endorsed Markey, for what it's worth.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

Calibanibal posted:

The Kennedy bloodline is ancient, and powerful. We need their strength


There must always be a Kennedy in Washington.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

Gyges posted:

There must always be a Kennedy in Washington.

We already have the lovely fake Kennedy in Louisiana

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything

quote:

Hi there --

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During this dark Trump era, it is easy to find yourself wishing we could be led by President Bartlett instead.

Sadly, President Bartlett is just a TV character. But luckily, Joe Biden is real and he is running for president.

If we’re going to elect Joe, we all need to work together. So, I’m coming to you today -- not as Toby Ziegler, but as a concerned Democrat. Will you rush $5 to Joe Biden?

I’ve often been told by people that they wished Bartlett could be President. Well, I’ve known Joe Biden for 16 years. We met when he was Senator, I campaigned for him in 2007 and we kept in contact while he did his good work as VP and I can tell you that no one in Washington comes as close to the fictional Bartlett as does Joe. Why? For one reason: He wants to do the right thing and has for his long record in public service. I believe in him. I believe he is the right person at this moment to right this glorious ship and restore dignity and integrity to the Oval Office. I believe he is our best chance to do just that.

That’s why I’m proud to support Joe Biden for president. I know that no one will work harder to repair the damage Donald Trump has inflicted on this country.

But, folks, it won’t be easy. I heard that Donald Trump and his Republican allies have $100 million to spend.

So we all need to stand with Joe to make sure he has the resources he needs to defeat Trump. He’s the best shot we have. Chip in today

Let’s do this,

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P.S. A very smart fictional president once asked me, “What’s next?” I hope that answer is Joe Biden. If you agree, chip in to his campaign today >>

I'm 80% sure this is real.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

rscott posted:

I mean, a 15 year old A4 vert is like a $10k car tops, it seems more ironic in that regard than anything

this is some lucielle bluth poo poo right here

it’s a 15 year old vag product (a4 platform at that lmao), cmon man

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
cookies need love

Ytlaya posted:

There is a small subset of Warren voters who seem to think that she's more or less equivalent in terms of policy/ideology to Sanders and as a result is preferable due to being a woman (plus whatever subjective positive impression they have), and all of these sorts of things combined contribute to disproving this notion (even if each individually might not be enough).


He literally just said he supports increasing access to birth control through funding organizations that help with that sort of thing*, and didn't bring it up in the context of climate change himself (the person asking the question did). The alternative was for him to say "no I don't support providing funding to organizations that help provide access to contraceptives/birth control in other countries." There's no possible answer that wouldn't have been interpreted maliciously.

And I seriously doubt anyone in good faith thinks that he has some secret goal of curbing non-white births, lol.

* specifically in reference to the Mexico City Policy which Trump reactivated that bans federal funding to organizations that perform abortions

The answer is "No I don't believe in population control"

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Luckyellow posted:

It's been a while since I read any opinions but how the heck did you went from "abortion is a human right" to "suppressing the world population through abortion is eugenics"?

Jennifer Rubin is a straight up fascist who's appalled at Trump for being uncouth about it. WaPo publishes her for the exact and exclusive reason that she's anti-Trump. I wish people would stop sharing her bullshit.

Bar Ran Dun
Jan 22, 2006

Uglycat posted:

It's all been engineered, using sockpuppets and the cambridge analytica data and fake news. It's a big part of the fascist machine.

This is an odd question but what the hell have you seen a connection with the Q crap and racist pornography?

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

gohmak posted:

The answer is "No I don't believe in population control"

To be clear, you support the policies he discussed just don’t approve of discussing them in response to the question asked?

The Pussy Boss
Nov 2, 2004

Giving women in poor countries access to birth control is a good thing and shame on you if you buy into the right wing framing that doing so is eugenics

RasperFat
Jul 11, 2006

Uncertainty is inherently unsustainable. Eventually, everything either is or isn't.

The Pussy Boss posted:

Giving women in poor countries access to birth control is a good thing and shame on you if you buy into the right wing framing that doing so is eugenics

Never give into right wing framing for anything.

They’re just fine with pollution being dumped on minorities and poisoning them and their children. They’re just fine with sterilizing “criminals”. They’re just fine with PoC dying more in childbirth and infancy.

They are fundamentally incapable of making any social commentary without disingenuous virtue signaling.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

gohmak posted:

The answer is "No I don't believe in population control"

The question was asking if he supports stopping a policy to limit federal funding to organizations that don't give abortions. In his answer he just said he supports that (deactivating the agreement). The only other way he could have answered is to attempt to say "I support allowing organizations that receive federal funding to give abortions but disagree with population control" or something but it's pretty obvious that he just interpreted the question as a question about deactivating the Mexico City Agreement.

Basically the reporting on this is putting words in his mouth through the most negative possible interpretation of what was actually said.

I mean come on, do you seriously think that Bernie Sanders secretly wants to preserve white supremacy through reducing non-white birthrates?

The Pussy Boss posted:

Giving women in poor countries access to birth control is a good thing and shame on you if you buy into the right wing framing that doing so is eugenics

I mean, I get what gohmak is trying to say here, in that "population control in poor countries" is sometimes used as a talking point translating to "make the proportion of non-white people stop increasing," but in this case Bernie Sanders himself didn't say anything about population control and was just stating that he'd allow federal funding to organizations that prove abortions (reversing an agreement Trump reactivated).

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

Ague Proof posted:

I'm 80% sure this is real.


How is it that so many people watched a show about the White House where gays in the military was too much but peace in the middle east was totally doable and said, yes, this is how it really is?

I liked the West Wing too, but I sure as gently caress never finished an episode and thought that was totally how poo poo should work. Did these people also enroll in welding classes after watching a few season of The A-Team?

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

Ague Proof posted:

I'm 80% sure this is real.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM1Vt6MyKj0

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

gohmak posted:

The answer is "No I don't believe in population control"

You don't think women have the right to control the size of their families?

Why not

Unoriginal Name
Aug 1, 2006

by sebmojo

VitalSigns posted:

You don't think women have the right to control the size of their families?

Why not

Because poor women are more likely to choose not out of economic duress? Maybe make childcare is provided is equal measure before worrying about how many children people are having, especially when replacement theory is being spread by white supremacists.

They have ~*~access~*~ to reproductive freedom

bowser
Apr 7, 2007

Office Pig posted:

https://twitter.com/TYTPolitics/status/1170446747493117952
If you were wondering whether Warren deviated from the formula and actually answered the question then you can rest easy with the knowledge that no, she did not.

Someone with video editing skills needs to make a compilation of all the times Warren has dances around answering direct questions that's easy to share and spread.

There was the time Charlamagne Tha God asked her about why she was a Republican and I believe another one relating to her position on Medicare for All that was posted a week or two ago.

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002

bowser posted:

Someone with video editing skills needs to make a compilation of all the times Warren has dances around answering direct questions that's easy to share and spread.

There was the time Charlamagne Tha God asked her about why she was a Republican and I believe another one relating to her position on Medicare for All that was posted a week or two ago.

if someone's willing to compile a list of clips/links and times I'm down

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

bowser posted:

Someone with video editing skills needs to make a compilation of all the times Warren has dances around answering direct questions that's easy to share and spread.

There was the time Charlamagne Tha God asked her about why she was a Republican and I believe another one relating to her position on Medicare for All that was posted a week or two ago.

One of the best examples:
https://twitter.com/BethLynch2020/status/1166727858204663810
Immediately veers into housing when asked directly about what she’d do about mass incarceration, drools out Democratic pablum about Republicans repealing Obamacare when asked again, and when asked yet again eventually comes around to “well the 1994 crime bill is bad and we should, like, do some sort of thing about it I’ll have to look into it.”

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

B-b-but she has a plan

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
Of course Warren being a liar in support of all the same evils as the rest of the field probably doesn’t matter if her primary base of support is something as boorish and primitive as woman in the white house no matter who or how.
https://twitter.com/NH_for_Warren/status/1170295074028212225
It’s the exact same poo poo as Kamala supporters counterprotesting service workers and the sunrise movement, only difference being how ugly you’re willing to get in service of awful people who only want to gently caress everyone over.

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Warren is very Hillary like. Unacceptable sorry.

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ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
https://twitter.com/LeftwardSwing/status/1170642510198140928

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