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Lawman 0 posted:What's the year or time period you guys believe that western europe pulled decisively ahead of the rest of the world in military technology and tactics? Sometime between the end of the Great Turkish War and the https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_K%C3%BC%C3%A7%C3%BCk_Kaynarca, everyone has their own favorite point at which they feel the Ottomans were officially in decline but most of the choices are in that range.
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Ensign Expendable posted:What's so hellish about buying up whatever the US or UK write off?
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FrangibleCover posted:With the notable exception of the CF-18 contract in the early 80s the Canadians have hosed up every single tactical aircraft procurement since the Clunk. All of them. Ask me about one and I'll tell you why it was the wrong choice. C-17?
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Nebakenezzer posted:C-17? The bad decisionmaking there was committing to being an expeditionary peacekeepingy sort of armed forces in the American mould in the 1990s and taking until the mid 00s to think that maybe they should buy some planes that let them do expeditionary peacekeepingy sort of things without having to beg a ride off the Americans. It's a good jet but it'd have been handy to have going into Afghanistan instead of just coming out.
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FrangibleCover posted:With the notable exception of the CF-18 contract in the early 80s the Canadians have hosed up every single tactical aircraft procurement since the Clunk. All of them. Ask me about one and I'll tell you why it was the wrong choice. The Clunk?
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ChubbyChecker posted:The Clunk? This thing
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ChubbyChecker posted:The Clunk? BEFORE the F-18 ![]() So just outta curiosity, mr. cover, what's your opinion on the NSS?
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Nebakenezzer posted:BEFORE the F-18
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blackmongoose posted:Sometime between the end of the Great Turkish War and the https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_K%C3%BC%C3%A7%C3%BCk_Kaynarca, everyone has their own favorite point at which they feel the Ottomans were officially in decline but most of the choices are in that range. hot take: the ottomans are essentially western europeans
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HEY GUNS posted:yes their military history is 95% pure failure Now I'm curious, is the Meissen Sword made from porcelain?
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Lawman 0 posted:What's the year or time period you guys believe that western europe pulled decisively ahead of the rest of the world in military technology and tactics? We've narrowed it down to about 1396 now, thanks for asking ![]()
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Beamed posted:We've narrowed it down to about 1396 now, thanks for asking Why so?
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https://twitter.com/wellerstein/status/1170416239707086849 Bright as 100 suns at almost 10km - what radiance could you actually stand to look at with the naked eye? Also, interesting that the second flash is almost a full second post detonation, I though it was fractionally later and required machine detection or film analysis, if you were far enough away that you weren't blinded or dazzled by the first flash you could discern the difference between the first and second flash. How does radiance scale with yield
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zoux posted:Bright as 100 suns at almost 10km - what radiance could you actually stand to look at with the naked eye? An interesting question, and one that I don't have a good answer for beyond "it depends". In particular it depends on wavelength -- humans can "stand" to look at UV and infrared lasers far longer than is actually safe, because they don't trigger a blink reflex. So you end up cooking your cornea without realizing anything's going wrong. Blue light is known to be potentially harmful, but sometimes this is things like "if you stare at this light for 90 minutes you may sustain permanent damage". If you're specifically talking broad-spectrum photons like the Sun emits, well, we can't stand to look at one sun's worth of flux, so, somewhere less than that. ![]()
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:hot take: the ottomans are essentially western europeans Libluini posted:Now I'm curious, is the Meissen Sword made from porcelain? ![]() saxony's top row second from right, each Prince Elector keeps one of the elements of the Regalia and presents it during a coronation ![]()
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https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3898006&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1 I don't go to GBS but this goon propaganda thread is a pro-click for anyone who enjoys both milhist and The Something Awful Forms ![]()
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Alright, Big Headline said y'all might be interested in the, but MAH WAIFE's grandfather was a Pathfinder Navigator (381st Bomb Group, 535th Squadron, Ridgewell and 91st Bomb Group, 324th Squadron PFF, Bassingbourn). He wrote a big ol' history and got a bunch of buddies to contribute, and even made a CD of the memoirs that I've uploaded here: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1RPw8UCBj1X3qBYbGNShPYHdEn3u3kRd-
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3898006&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1 holy poo poo that thread is amazing
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You missed the third panel where Italy jumps on the truck labeled "Neo-Nazis," just as the truck smacks into a wall.
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/wellerstein/status/1170416239707086849 I don't know about the other questions, but if you look at the (logarithmic) time scale, you'll see that the dip lasts around 90 ms. Normally this is pretty easy to discern for a human, but I imagine that the first flash will have dazzled you (if not outright blinded) so much that you don't notice it. I think that to the naked eye it will look much like it does on film, except way, way brighter (a big light that slowly fades out).
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3898006&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1 A loving ![]()
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Reading Rockets and People, vol 1: Our narrator is getting an eyeful of mittelwerk at Nordhousen. While the Americans were through in the looting of the place, they only took completed V-2s, leaving parts enough for 60 or so A4s. One thing Chertok notices: while everybody has an eye out for new technology, the Soviets are astonished by something the Western Allies completely ignored: how compared to the Soviets, the Germans had a staggering wealth of machine tools and precision instruments. When Chertok was in Berlin, he was particularly taken with the quote:Siemens four-mirror oscillograph. There we found various models: two-, four-, and six-mirror models. Without them, conducting research on rapidly occurring dynamic processes is impossible. This is a new epoch in the technology of measurements and engineering research. In Moscow, at NII-1 we had only one six-mirror oscillograph for the entire institute. And these Germans had so many! Chertok was also impressed with something the west found rather mundane: quote:For us it was a novelty that the company List, which specialized only in the development and mass-production of multi-pin plug connectors, existed and flourished among the Germans. They had produced hundreds of thousands of connectors for German aircraft and rockets. The concept was very simple, but the engineering and production involved were fundamentally new to us.This innovation developed in response to the extreme complexity of the electrical circuits used in flying vehicles. The connectors enhanced rapid assembly and allowed electrical components to be connected and disconnected reliably during the repair and testing of individual compartments. At Mittelwerk, the Americans had taken all the specific Rocket test equipment - but had left behind state of the art manufacturing and machine tools. Also, regular executions took place with the interior industrial cranes, with up to 70 people at a time being hung for sabotage. And here's something unbelievable: quote:Much later—in early 1946 as I recall—a German artist came from Erfurt to speak to General Gaydukov, chief of the Institute Nordhausen. He brought a large collection of watercolors and pencil drawings depicting subterranean production activity at Mittelwerk. According to the artist, any photography or filming of the factory and the surrounding areas was forbidden on the threat of death. But the leaders of the A-4 program believed that a creation as great as Mittelwerk should somehow be immortalized.
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That place is still a head gently caress and a half today. Worth a visit if you’re in the neighborhood.
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The multipin plug thing is really neat / wacky / interesting
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aphid_licker posted:The multipin plug thing is really neat / wacky / interesting DIN plugs: the greatest tech of the 20th century?
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Cyrano4747 posted:That place is still a head gently caress and a half today. Worth a visit if you’re in the neighborhood. Yeah, it's most definitely on my list. Just because I think the thread would like it, here's an adorable passage where Boris, badass rocket and electrical engineer, and his friend, similar, act like giddy children in a good quality hotel: quote:After a five-minute drive on a cobblestone road going up a hill, we got out of the car on a small square by the main entrance to a three-story villa. The massive doors—plate glass behind ornamental wrought-iron bars—would not give. The Bürgermeister ran off somewhere and brought back an elderly German woman—Frau Storch. “She was a maid here. She knows everything and is prepared to help you.” Frau Storch had the keys. We entered. But where was the German pilot? Suddenly we were almost run over by a little kid about five years old on a tiny bicycle. He turned out to be the pilot’s son. We learned that the villa had another half with a second entrance. Isayev was outraged that part of the residence was still occupied. Rosenplänter [German rocket engineer deemed too unimportant to be included in Operation Paperclip] rapidly muttered something. I announced that the house suited me and let Alfred unload our meager luggage. Nebakenezzer fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Sep 9, 2019 |
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Post the lunch?
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Vorkosigan posted:Alright, Big Headline said y'all might be interested in the, but MAH WAIFE's grandfather was a Pathfinder Navigator (381st Bomb Group, 535th Squadron, Ridgewell and 91st Bomb Group, 324th Squadron PFF, Bassingbourn). He wrote a big ol' history and got a bunch of buddies to contribute, and even made a CD of the memoirs that I've uploaded here: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1RPw8UCBj1X3qBYbGNShPYHdEn3u3kRd- Thanks for posting this! This has been a real good read. I'm really pleased to see how much attention he's given to navigation errors and and the dangers thereof. I doubt we'll see much about operational losses with the HBO show about strategic bombing, but it was definitely a big proportion of casualties.
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https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/09/09/russia-declassifies-wwii-docs-relating-to-soviet-nazi-pact-a67211quote:Russia’s Defense Ministry has declassified a trove of documents relating to a Soviet-Nazi nonaggression pact signed 80 years ago which historians say paved the way for the start of World War II. ![]()
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These documents were already declassified, the MoD just periodically uploads small selections for anniversaries of various events.
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https://twitter.com/kayaburgess/status/1171385248464146433 Wikipedia is being DDoSed, can someone tell me about the Amritsar Massacre
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It essentially was a large gathering and protest in a public park that was peaceful but was brutally and bloodily suppressed due to post mutiny paranoia and fear. The man responsible was protected by those in power for repercussions of the time and the modern British government still refuses to admit both being responsible and trying to paper over the massive gently caress up.
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I don't get why it's so hard for governments to say "yeah when we did the atrocities in the past that was bad" when there are no living perpetrators or survivors. Is there a situation where a country's leadership apologized for some past misdeed and it ended up causing huge problems?
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I imagine perhaps if lovely populism hadn't reared it's ugly head a proper apology would have occurred but some of the same people trying to force Brexit through no doubt are the scions of the men who tried to keep the British Empire post WW1 from crumbling and toppling over. Every few years former politicians from the non Tory side of politics go over and try to make amends but it isn't the same.
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There's probably a certain amount of "I have decided that I support my nation, therefore my nation cannot ever be in the wrong" thought processes going on too. There's a term for that kind of thing, I just forget what it is right now. But you see the same kind of thing where e.g. some Americans will pretend that slavery or the abuse and genocide of Native Americans was a good thing. It has no possible impact on your life today, but means that you support a country that did bad things in the past, and that might mean contemplating the bad things it's doing right now, and introspection is hard so let's just pretend that there are no problems. Denial is much easier!
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:There's probably a certain amount of "I have decided that I support my nation, therefore my nation cannot ever be in the wrong" thought processes going on too. There's a term for that kind of thing, I just forget what it is right now. But you see the same kind of thing where e.g. some Americans will pretend that slavery or the abuse and genocide of Native Americans was a good thing. It has no possible impact on your life today, but means that you support a country that did bad things in the past, and that might mean contemplating the bad things it's doing right now, and introspection is hard so let's just pretend that there are no problems. Denial is much easier! Sure, I just didn't know if there was any kind of actual legal liability attached to an admission of guilt, since they sure act like there is!
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I strongly suspect it is more of a case of them trying to squirm away from bad PR and paying the survivors descendants/Indian government money.
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