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rkajdi posted:Is that meaningful tribal hate for modern too? It might be okay, but I’m not sure if it h ate out and plague engineer. There might be decks where one plague engineer and 1 witch's vengeance is better than two plague engineers. Its a nice card to exist even if its not immediately necessary.
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A literal one sided wrath of God, eh?
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Sep 9, 2019 19:09
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Vaah posted:I have a sneaking suspicion mono black is going to be very very good come Return to Theros. I can only imagine the tears if they don't reprint Gary though. With the way they have done return sets you aren't going to see any reprints. Just worse call backs. Gary isn't coming back.
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Sampatrick posted:A literal one sided wrath of God, eh? Every sweeper is one-sided if you are doing it right. Also, this one has very real drawbacks - not every deck with cheap creatures that you want to kill is going to be mono-tribe, and if this card becomes ubiquitous, you can bet those decks will build around it. I do like the card a lot from a power level and design perspective. Should lead to interesting gameplay and deckbuilding decisions.
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Sampatrick posted:A literal one sided wrath of God, eh? Nha, it’s cheaper :|
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There are a ton of new creature types this set. Mouse, Noble, Peasant, Warlock, am I missing anything? Stapling Reprisal to Law-Rune Enforcer seems decent.
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Can't wait for my Revolutionary Europe plane coming early 2022
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I wanna make a mono black deck with the swamp guy from M20 so bad now
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C-Euro posted:Can't wait for my Revolutionary Europe plane coming early 2022 there were definitely guns in 1848 though
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Kurieg posted:Apparently Will/Rowan's mother is an evil witch, according to the person who read the book earlier. Well, their birth mother is at least.
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C-Euro posted:Can't wait for my Revolutionary Europe plane coming early 2022 I am absolutely down for French Revolution plane
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Sep 9, 2019 20:24
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vegetables posted:I hope this is a meta joke about how they were thinking of making “Witch” a creature type then didn’t I think the warlock type is the Witches
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Finally. https://twitter.com/scryfall/status/1171065583602827266?s=19
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Still really wish this worked with tokens. Bitterblossom + this would be amazing. suicidesteve posted:It's no Plague Engineer, that's for sure.
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ilmucche posted:Still really wish this worked with tokens. Bitterblossom + this would be amazing. It’s not necessarily worse, it’s just different. PE is cool because you can just plop it down whenever and get value from it, this card is more punishing but can be situationally less effective. The guy earlier in the thread who said that some decks will likely want one copy of both instead of two of either is right, I think.
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Getting real excited about some kind of U/B grindy recursive value creature deck with this guy and Etrata The Silencer where they just keep shuffling back into your deck.
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fadam posted:It’s not necessarily worse, it’s just different. PE is cool because you can just plop it down whenever and get value from it, this card is more punishing but can be situationally less effective. The guy earlier in the thread who said that some decks will likely want one copy of both instead of two of either is right, I think. Ah that makes sense. Guess I'll have to look for one when the set releases
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:PEASANT Morophon is a peasant serf now.
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Plague Engineer is a persistent effect on a creature that can also attack or trade with whatever as needed thanks to the deathtouch, and it has an easier casting cost. It’s a lot less situational and maybe even a little more powerful than a one-shot wrath effect.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Morophon is a peasant serf now. Peasant Serf Lord.
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lmao you dont have to choose until resolution how miserable
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Might have to actually get back into paper standard if mono black becomes good enough, especially with Theros around the corner.
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moush posted:Might have to actually get back into paper standard if mono black becomes good enough, especially with Theros around the corner. Not just Theros, the Underworld specifically which is Erebos's personal domain.
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long-rear end nips Diane posted:I have Devotion to Elspeth 
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This is cool and interesting, but also weird. I didn't spot it's applied to both players, but not symmetricly as you get the benefits regardless of who fails to sac but you always get the benefit. But I just realised you will be compelled to sac the enchantment itself. BizarroAzrael fucked around with this message at 01:43 on Sep 10, 2019 |
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TheKingofSprings posted:https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-ptq-2019-09-09#decklists Hogaak and Faithless Looting were good bans.
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Tom Clancy is Dead posted:Plague Engineer is a persistent effect on a creature that can also attack or trade with whatever as needed thanks to the deathtouch, and it has an easier casting cost. It’s a lot less situational and maybe even a little more powerful than a one-shot wrath effect. the jund players i've talked to also like it against other midrange decks, the deathtouch gives you a reliable 1-for-1 to replace all the discard spells you're looking to take out
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TheKingofSprings posted:https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-ptq-2019-09-09#decklists Ban Glimpse the Unthinkable, its the only way sorry mill brothers, gotta take one for the team
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little munchkin posted:the jund players i've talked to also like it against other midrange decks, the deathtouch gives you a reliable 1-for-1 to replace all the discard spells you're looking to take out They’re right, it gets boarded in a ton, even against big mana. Against valakut you can name snake and turn off some of their acceleration as an added bonus.
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