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Leperflesh posted:Thrift store. The stuff they sell at camping stores is overpriced and unnecessary for car camping. You can build a complete car camping cook set for like $20 at your local thrift shop, and its cheap status will mean you don't care about dings and dents and whatever. Seconding a thift store for car camping stuff. I outfitted and entire kitchen for <$20 at Goodwill. Stuff like pans were $3 and bowls and cups were 50 cents or a quarter.
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if you're bringing cast iron already what else do you need  nah but thrift it like they said. get some short shorts & loud short sleeve button-ups while you're there and fit in with the $$$ crowd
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Aug 31, 2019 02:27
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patagonia has casual shirts @ msrp of like 80 united states dollars lol
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Aug 31, 2019 02:28
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fyi if anyone like me gets chafing issues pretty badly on the trail 2Toms Sport Shield is literally a miracle product. I absolutely unequivocally recommend it, it is a stellar product in every single respect. honestly it deserves its own thread.
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Sep 3, 2019 18:07
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Nthing thrifting... also cooking with pie irons— I recently picked up a set and it has absolutely leveled up my car camping cooking! Sandwiches, pizzas, desserts, breakfast sammiches, they’re just  Also fire pit folding grates are awesome for cooking over the fire: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000P9IRKQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_CeUBDbHY9KBG1 You just build up some embers and put the grate over top of that, which is perfect for foil packets, burgers, brats, corn, cast iron, steaks, flat top cast iron (which is perfect for breakfast with pancakes and bacon and stuff). Those along with the pie pans have been my favorite bits of gear recently
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Sep 3, 2019 23:10
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Man I scored on space by switching to hammock stuff. Considering my hammock and straps come with me regardless, I’m basically trading: Tent Footprint Fly Sleeping pad Sleeping bag Pillow FOR Under quilt Quilt Bug net Fly The quilts both fit in my sleeping bag compression bag so that’s an even trade, the rest is tiny. I can downsize to one of my smaller bags at this point. Now all I have to do is not hate it, please don’t let me hate it.
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Sep 4, 2019 01:18
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You don't use a pad for hammock sleeping? I've found that I need one, but I'm a side/rotisserie sleeper in general.
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Sep 4, 2019 03:30
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Nope, no pad. I’m hoping having both an under and over quilt will fix the warmth and comfort bits. I’m a side sleeper on the ground but for some reason in a hammock I’m good however.
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Sep 4, 2019 03:59
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pointsofdata posted:I don't get why I never see americans talking about these guys: They’re intimidating to look at but pretty inoffensive from what I’ve read—If you watch coyote peterson’s vid he has to manhndle one and try pretty hard to get a sting.
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Sep 4, 2019 17:04
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Rolo posted:Nope, no pad. I’m hoping having both an under and over quilt will fix the warmth and comfort bits. I’m a side sleeper on the ground but for some reason in a hammock I’m good however. Nice! Quilts are a great quality of life comfort for hammocks. I’ve tried using pads and never really had great results. Inceltown posted:Didn't Dutch get cancelled for treating a bunch of people in the industry like poo poo? I remember reading someone fairly prominent creating drama on BPL but can't find it now. Huh, interesting! He’s still got his store and I still buy stuff from him, but I 100% believe you. For context, last year I went on a kayak outing with a local meetup group, and got to talking to another couple that came out, and turns out they’re the owners/operators of Dream Hammock and they really do not like Dutch at all, because his chameleon hammock is a ripoff of their design. Which was kinda awkward because I was talking about how much I loved Dutch’s gear to them, lol Small world I guess, but it could be the same (or similar) issue!
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Sep 5, 2019 10:54
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I haven't read the full article yet, just posting this before work, but some guy says maybe its not worth your time to hang your food in bear country. Valid points? Or is he a paid Schill for big bear canister? https://www.outsideonline.com/23861...TXzze72xGKJLtaA
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Sep 9, 2019 11:17
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I think most Bear hangs here in CO are, in effect, rodent hangs. There are a dearth of appropriate trees. But I still do it because a bear canister feels like overkill. His point number four is well taken, however. On my last trip, I was working to get a line over one of the rare appropriate limbs near a high mountain lake. I neglected to realize that, in the course of my efforts, I had stepped on the pile of paracord laying next to me. I threw the rock, it traveled about three feet in the air toward its target, and came rocketing back into my face with what was — in retrospect — stunning accuracy and speed considering I had thrown the rock at a ~75° angle. Throwing rocks into trees is pretty dangerous when you think about it. Anyway, yeah. He’s probably right that there are better ways.
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Sep 9, 2019 14:13
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Holy crapola the sawyer squeeze is so much faster than gravity filters. My only issue with the thing is that the bags are incredibly annoying to fill. If you're filling from a lake/river they never get completely full, so I found. It worked a bit better when filling from a moving canoe.
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Sep 9, 2019 19:21
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Dangerllama posted:I think most Bear hangs here in CO are, in effect, rodent hangs. There are a dearth of appropriate trees. But I still do it because a bear canister feels like overkill. I got a Bear Vault canister as a gift, which is a pretty kickass gift, but I only use it for car camping. It’s nice to just go stash it under a rock. Otherwise throwing it in my backpack is annoying.
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Sep 9, 2019 19:38
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The vault is also a great stool and a fine place to store random poo poo in the car (spare batteries, extra first aid supplies and nalgene bottles for me)
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Sep 9, 2019 19:51
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I got a bear vault for Christmas as well. It was one of those things I really didn't want to buy and I my family was asking for christmas suggestions. My only regret is that I wish I had received the smaller size which is more usable. The big size is best for big groups but I rarely need one that big. I hang my food most of the time unless Im somewhere that mandates bear cans or the animal situation is so bad that you should use one.
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Sep 9, 2019 20:01
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MA-Horus posted:Holy crapola the sawyer squeeze is so much faster than gravity filters. Pro tip I observed (and stole the idea for) on a recent overnighter - bring a spare gallon ziploc and dip that into standing water, then pour into your squeezebag with a minimum of fuss.
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Sep 9, 2019 20:02
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I’m confused. You guys are bear canistering when car camping? That seems…unnecessary?
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Sep 9, 2019 21:35
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Dangerllama posted:I’m confused. You guys are bear canistering when car camping? Bears will absolutely tear into your cars in some areas to get food.
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Sep 9, 2019 21:39
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I don't when car camping. Only backpacking. I usually have way too much food for a bear can. I only bring mine when the places say I have to (national parks).
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Sep 9, 2019 21:43
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Dangerllama posted:I’m confused. You guys are bear canistering when car camping? Not for bear protection, it's just convenient storage device that is also useful when backpacking in bear country. So it usually gets tossed into the car. Everywhere I've been keeping food in the car is sufficient to satisfy local authorities.
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Sep 9, 2019 21:46
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armorer posted:Bears will absolutely tear into your cars in some areas to get food. My point was that, if you live in an area where bears are going to wreck your car, I don’t think a bear canister is going to prevent them from doing that. Seems the common protocol is to put your food in a locker after dark? And if you don’t camp in such a place, then keeping your food inside your car is probably sufficient. I’m willing to admit I may be totally wrong about this.
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Sep 9, 2019 21:54
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If a bear is going to tear into something, you'd much rather have it try to get into a canister than your car. Also, a canister, while durable, isn't meant to stop a bear from tearing into it, the operant mechanism is to deny a bear any purchase that they could use to use their claws to pry.
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Sep 9, 2019 22:14
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Dangerllama posted:I’m confused. You guys are bear canistering when car camping? I call it car camping but the spot I use is a few minutes from the car. Edit: wait does car camping mean literally in the car or just that your car is there?
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Sep 9, 2019 22:14
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xzzy posted:The vault is also a great stool and a fine place to store random poo poo in the car (spare batteries, extra first aid supplies and nalgene bottles for me) Aren't you a bit concerned a battery could leak in your lovely food storage container?
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Sep 9, 2019 22:16
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Rolo posted:I call it car camping but the spot I use is a few minutes from the car. Car camping is just used to differentiate it from backpacking. Car camping means you use your vehicle to get to the campsite or close enough that you aren't hiking in all your gear on your back. You can bring more and heavier gear since your vehicle is doing all the lifting vs backpacking where you're packing light and hiking to your campsite.
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Sep 9, 2019 22:27
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No because I tend to take fresh batteries on my adventures. If they're old enough to leak they were gonna get me in trouble out in the woods anyways. Or if they were cheap enough to leak when new.
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Sep 9, 2019 22:27
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Verman posted:Car camping is just used to differentiate it from backpacking. Car camping means you use your vehicle to get to the campsite or close enough that you aren't hiking in all your gear on your back. You can bring more and heavier gear since your vehicle is doing all the lifting vs backpacking where you're packing light and hiking to your campsite. Yeah that’s what I thought. So yeah I use the bear container when my car takes it in but I’m not sleeping that close to my car.
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Sep 9, 2019 22:37
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If there aren't food lockers at the campsite / parking lot then some kind of bear resistant food container is the best option. For car camping, there are IGBC approved boxes / panniers / coolers which may be more convenient (many of which are outrageously overpriced, but not all).
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Sep 10, 2019 01:37
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i want ursacks to be good, but they are not 
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Sep 10, 2019 02:04
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Chard posted:i want ursacks to be good, but they are not
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Sep 10, 2019 04:30
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CopperHound posted:Are they actually not bear resistant enough or is the complaint just that they aren't approved for areas that requires bear canisters? This is all anecdotal, but both. They're not approved for major areas of the Sierras including Yosemite, but I've also heard that bears can pierce the bag and will crush everything inside to a fine powder regardless of if they pierce it. I've heard of a metal insert to counter piercing but overall it seems like the solution just isn't there yet.
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Sep 10, 2019 05:35
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I use an ursack with odor proof bags inside, and just tie it to a tree trunk at head height. But as mentioned earlier, my concern is rodents and other curious small critters. No idea if the ursack actually does anything, but haven't ever had any issues. I'm also just in black bear country, so nothing especially worrisome.
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Sep 10, 2019 16:44
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Pretty sure a bear is going to do whatever the gently caress a bear wants to do. Hang your poo poo, at least that'll give you a heads up that you're about to get mauled.
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Sep 10, 2019 16:50
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Set up a 100 meter perimeter around your camp with tripwire rigged to stadium lights. When a bear approaches you gotta turn that patch of forest into the surface of the sun. This may require a few extra trips up and down the trail to haul in the lamps and power source.
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Sep 10, 2019 17:16
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xzzy posted:Set up a 100 meter perimeter around your camp with tripwire rigged to stadium lights. When a bear approaches you gotta turn that patch of forest into the surface of the sun. What's the per gram cost of C4? I bet we could weight weenie a solution.
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Sep 10, 2019 17:45
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I like where this is going.
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Sep 10, 2019 17:56
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MA-Horus posted:Holy crapola the sawyer squeeze is so much faster than gravity filters. The Cnoc Vector is the perfect bag to pair the the Sawyer Squeeze. https://cnocoutdoors.com/ Has a big wide mouth zipper-type opening on the back to scoop up water and the threads match the Sawyer. It's super durable and you can use it as a gravity filter as well if you pair it to another bag or use an in-line adapter to a bladder. I used it this weekend and it owns.
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Random question, anyone have experience getting a harness for a dog with some carrying capacity? It’d be great if my guy could carry his own dang weight, so to speak, since his food alone probably clears 5 pounds easy, and I’d much rather he schlep it than me, if there are any recommendations I’m all ears.
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Ruffwear seems to be the defacto around here but it's pricey. Their stuff doesn't seem to fall apart super easy though.
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