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mediadave posted:Ok, so, where can I find the podcast? https://praxiscast.podbean.com/
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Sep 10, 2019 10:06
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I wish I could say I don't believe it
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I believe it 100% Like cameron and the pig, facts don't matter, trust your heart.
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Chinese Gordon posted:The new Lib Dem stance is going to split the remain vote even harder than it was already split. Not hopeful about this election lads. Extremely same.
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Borrovan posted:imo this LD A50 thing is good for Jeremy Corbyn. Their core voter base are big brained very rational adults who are obsessed with compromise and decorum, very few of whom will openly back totally ignoring a referendum (& as someone already said, the ones that would aren't voting Labour anyway). The move just exposes the core hypocrisy of the LDs' position. LD core base will like the A50 thing, I don’t think any of them particularly care about the principle of respecting the referendum. For the rest of it, politics is tribal. Most people who will vote LD right now aren’t doing it based on a detailed reading of policies or the overwhelming personal charisma of Jo Swinson, they’re doing it because they are horrified by the Tories and nervous of Labour under Corbyn for various reasons, from “he’ll take away what I have” to “he’s the second coming of Adolf Eichmann”. None of those reasons bear scrutiny but I’ll bet on the early heat death of the universe before I’ll bet on my fellow countrymen being reflective enough to spot that.
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tecnocrat posted:I've been watching this for the last few days, and following this thread to learn more. Listen to the thread podcast for more! Chinese Gordon posted:The new Lib Dem stance is going to split the remain vote even harder than it was already split. Not hopeful about this election lads. No they won’t, nobody believes they’ll get a majority so revocation is a non entity. It’s a desperate attempt to remain relevant and won’t work. If polly fuckin toynbee is saying Corbyn is our only hope, the Lib Dem’s are hosed.
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Sep 10, 2019 10:19
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already gone, what was the gist?
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Sep 10, 2019 10:20
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I love that its become standard now to mention the e-m@iler in every article about Alan Sugar. Not that you need to go far to find other shite Amstrad stuff if you want a change.
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Tesseraction posted:already gone, what was the gist? Alan Sugar would deliberately poo poo himself on the set of The Apprentice and enjoy making everyone else stew in the smell.
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Sep 10, 2019 10:22
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I thought that was the whole appeal of the show.
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Sep 10, 2019 10:23
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While seeing Boris led out of Number 10 in cuffs would be extremely funny, I feel like it's only a very short time before this becomes FBPEs' next big cause and all the joy is taken out of it. A procedural hail Mary that they can fantasise over as the forces of law and righteousness rescuing us all, that will never actually happen. Like if you're hoping for the police of all loving people to save the country, you're well on the way to terminal centrist brain.
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Tesseraction posted:already gone, what was the gist? It’s still there for me It’s an article in the Mirror saying that Alan Sugar deliberately poo poo himself on the set of the Apprentice just for laughs apparently
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TACD posted:It’s still there for me It's a joke, not a real article.
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mediadave posted:It's a joke, not a real article. It's real to me.
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It's not a real article (that's not to say he didn't repeatedly & deliberately poo poo himself tho). Looks like he had a real normal one last night, anyway. Up late telling everyone he's definitely not a Tory and showing off a scan of a 2 1/2 year old cheque to "prove" he paid tax once.
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jackhunter64 posted:Prorogation chat aside, what's the non-poo poo landline ISP of choice these days? I'm moving in a couple of months and can't get Virgin at my new place. Bonus points if I can turn their router to modem mode so I can use my own Airport. Been with Zen for 7 years and they're really good. I was with IDNet before that who were also really good but I couldn't justify the cost of it, maybe their pricing is better now IDK.
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Sanitary Naptime posted:No they won’t, nobody believes they’ll get a majority so revocation is a non entity. Nah the policy will split the right wing harder than it'll split any Remainers - post 31st there's reasons to vote Brexit Party and lib dems but only tribalism to vote Tory because they aren't going to outdo either side on Brexit and are still just awful domestically. This is actually really good because it's the lib dems that will try and weasel out of an election once they've got an extension again. Its also really bad for the lib dems because this escalation strategy may be pulling Labour but it'll end in them having to have rejoining the EU as a policy platform after we leave and that's going to be a disasterious approach for them.
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So Johnson is definitely going to ask the EU for the border in the Irish Sea, present this as a ‘new deal’ that excuses him from asking for an extension, obviously lose the vote on the deal, and then crash out without a deal, right?mediadave posted:It's a joke, not a real article.
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Sanitary Naptime posted:Listen to the thread podcast for more! The real problem, which I suspect was Big Brain Jo's plan all along, is this definitely rules out an electoral non aggression pact with Labour. Prior to this move I reckon there was a decent chance of that happening given that pressure would be overwhelming to prevent the remain vote splitting and letting the Tories win despite their leader being repeatedly publically humiliated/in prison. Now it's impossible for Labour to consider such a pact, and the single issue remain voters - of which there are more than enough to swing the result - will flock to the Lib Dems and likely swing the result. Of course the big unknown is what Farage will do in a post extension election. BoJo will have to explicitly promise No Deal to get him onside, which I guess he might, depending on exactly how the extension actually happens Chinese Gordon fucked around with this message at 10:47 on Sep 10, 2019 |
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Dom Cummies produces another belter - communications will not be released, as they were all on ICQ and MSN Messenger
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The lib dem policy is, as far as I understand it, we'll revoke a50 IF WE GET A MAJORITY. Now, seeing as how I'm as likely to get a majority as the lib dems are, everyone knows it's an empty promise. What they're positioning for, imo, is going into coalition with the moderate tories again and keep trotting out their bulllshit 'we moderated the tories!' line when we get whatever the moderate tories decide we'll get on brexit - probably a 2nd ref with remain vs no deal vs some sort of poo poo deal so that everybody involved can appear to support one stance and play to their base.
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Oh yeah if I click through the tweet shows. lmao
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CGI Stardust posted:Dom Cummies produces another belter - communications will not be released, as they were all on ICQ and MSN Messenger Classic Dom
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Single issue remainers will definitely flock to the Lib Dems Although I do accept the argument that they'd have never have voted for Labour anyway
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kemikalkadet posted:Been with Zen for 7 years and they're really good. I was with IDNet before that who were also really good but I couldn't justify the cost of it, maybe their pricing is better now IDK. feedmegin posted:Zen, or A&A if you're Zen it is then!
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Barry Foster posted:Single issue remainers will definitely flock to the Lib Dems e: & unlike most single issues, this one probably has voters that aren't
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Barry Foster posted:Single issue remainers will definitely flock to the Lib Dems They would already have done this if it was gonna happen. The lib dems have claimed to be the remainiest party ever for a long time, but the fact that they are liars and tories, plus the fact that they won't win an election and can therefore promise the moon on a stick works against them
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Borrovan posted:Only the ones that are as thick as pig poo poo Well yeah that's what I said
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If we're down to the wire, like there's a week until we crash out and Johnson has somehow managed to weasel out of getting an extension and there's no time to push through a VONC, what do we reckon the odds are at that stage of all the other parties just saying gently caress it and pushing through legislation to immediately revoke Article 50?
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Tesseraction posted:Classic Dom 
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:If we're down to the wire, like there's a week until we crash out and Johnson has somehow managed to weasel out of getting an extension and there's no time to push through a VONC, what do we reckon the odds are at that stage of all the other parties just saying gently caress it and pushing through legislation to immediately revoke Article 50? Zero. I'm not even sure Labour would whip for it and even if they did there's a substantial amount of Respect The Result fucknuts who would rebel, plus I doubt you'd get most of the former Tories on board with revocation.
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:If we're down to the wire, like there's a week until we crash out and Johnson has somehow managed to weasel out of getting an extension and there's no time to push through a VONC, what do we reckon the odds are at that stage of all the other parties just saying gently caress it and pushing through legislation to immediately revoke Article 50? Not sure honestly. I can imagine Labour maybe coming around to that position if they thought they could win it. Though equally they might bargain on NDB loving the tories. Unfortunatley the nature of parliamentary politics means it's very unlikely even the best labour MPs would actually suffer material consequences of NDB other than electorally. Some of them I think would back it for sure, those in strong remain constituencies, but whether the party as a whole would is hard to say. Also the tories would be pretty unlikely I think. It might possibly squeak through if the lib dems can stop being contrarians for a moment and the cuktigs can get off their arses and some of those tory rebels with nothing to lose get on board, but that's a big ask. Also depends what happens in the next few weeks, whether we get more tory defections, whether/what the yellowhammer documents say.
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jackhunter64 posted:Zen it is then! Zen is really loving good. Their support guys actually know what they are talking about and im not 100% sure that most of them are actually network techs.
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I've been with Zen for years after a recommendation from this thread. They're really good - and I think they treat their employees well too.
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Barry Foster posted:Extremely same. I don’t know, I think Corbyn has a perfectly reasonable chance, if he campaigns well and manages to divert the topic from Brexit as much as possible, of hanging on to second place. Or, if you want to dream, he could even adopt a defensible Brexit strategy and be in contention for winning.
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OwlFancier posted:I believe it 100% Don't say this even as a joke. It makes us the same as the idiots destroying the world. AceOfFlames fucked around with this message at 11:21 on Sep 10, 2019 |
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