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Ok, England isn't all bad, I guess. I would blow Dane Cook posted:There's a BBC program called Pop goes Northern Ireland, which is just archival footage from a particular year of the troubles, with the pop music hits of that year as background music. It sounds like a bad idea, but it works really really well. That actually could be pretty interesting to see the juxtapositions! E: like I was just making a reference to U2, but I learned a thing foobardog has issued a correction as of 02:33 on Sep 11, 2019 |
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Ron Paul Atreides posted:It was but it wasn't directly because of him alone. It's not like they terfed all the members of Parliament who backed him, or later tried to make him king first before restoring the old monarchy the English gentry considered "servant 5 minutes late with my breakfast" to be a large scale concern
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I like how BBC did a fact check on "would remaining in the EU cost the UK £1 billion a month?" and came to the conslusion that yes, it's true. (it's the gross UK contribution to the EU, after rebate but before the £300m in delegated spending) I wonder when they'll do a fact check on "would the british state surviving in some form cost the UK ~£40 billion a month?" next.
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Private Speech posted:I like how BBC did a fact check on "would remaining in the EU cost the UK £1 billion a month?" and came to the conslusion that yes, it's true. (it's the gross UK contribution to the EU, after rebate but before the £300m in delegated spending) Head on down to the failing new york times thread in c-spam if you want to see some really bad fact checking.
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:ugh, hate it when an arrogant warlock summons a Brexit Elemental that they have no means to banish. britons forgot the oldest rule: do not call up what you cannot put down
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rapeface posted:britons forgot the oldest rule: do not call up what you cannot put down first capitalism and now this, ugh, they're the *worst* about summoning eldritch horrors that just stick around
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Private Speech posted:I like how BBC did a fact check on "would remaining in the EU cost the UK £1 billion a month?" and came to the conslusion that yes, it's true. (it's the gross UK contribution to the EU, after rebate but before the £300m in delegated spending) Interesting blog post on the abuse of the term "cost" in media coverage like the above https://stumblingandmumbling.typepad.com/stumbling_and_mumbling/2015/02/the-cost-bias.html Essentially by doing that, they're valuing EU membership at zero. A real example of cost would be incompetently causing chaos at all our ports of entry through some stupid policy decision - the losses caused by all the delays are a genuine cost because there's no transfer going on.
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Samovar posted:Share the load, Mr. Baggins. Correction: Bojo should not, under any circumstances, share his "load" with anyone.
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Bernstrike posted:starting to see what they mean about brexit tbh jeez. i knew the eu wasn't great, but holy poo poo
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redleader posted:jeez. i knew the eu wasn't great, but holy poo poo Every time you put conservatives in position of power. Every time.
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In side news, supposedly pro-Chagossian MPs are suggesting that, instead of giving the territory back to Mauritius as demanded by the International Court of Justice, if we let the Chagossians back to their homeland at all it should be as servants on the military base that forcibly expelled them in the 70s:The Grauniad posted:West, MP for Hornsey and Wood Green, has long campaigned for the Chagossians’ right to return to their homeland. “We went to see how a resettlement programme might be possible and what it might be like to live there,” she explained. “The best solution is for the UK government to resettle the Chagossians. The Empire never ended
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Obliterati posted:In side news, supposedly pro-Chagossian MPs are suggesting that, instead of giving the territory back to Mauritius as demanded by the International Court of Justice, if we let the Chagossians back to their homeland at all it should be as servants on the military base that forcibly expelled them in the 70s: or rather, it ended but the british government refuses to believe it
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I. DRINK. YOUR. BREXIT. I drink it up!
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Obliterati posted:In side news, supposedly pro-Chagossian MPs are suggesting that, instead of giving the territory back to Mauritius as demanded by the International Court of Justice, if we let the Chagossians back to their homeland at all it should be as servants on the military base that forcibly expelled them in the 70s: a charitable interpretation of this might be that she's tailoring her message to suit an audience
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gschmidl posted:Every time you put conservatives in position of power. Every time. Brexiteers are like, can't believe we ditched the party just before somebody brought coke.
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gh0stpinballa posted:watson is such a loving nerd Tom Watson? I think he is closer to a lying snake than a nerd, but what has he done now?
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Dravs posted:Tom Watson? I think he is closer to a lying snake than a nerd, but what has he done now? When Labour are rising in the polls and we have any kind of unity he chooses that exact moment to drive his useless 'Labour should switch to unequivocal Remain support' attack line. The subtext of this is simply that he wants to oust Corbyn of course. I honestly don't understand those who think that they could simply revoke Article 50 and get away with it without some kind of credible referendum. The current Labour position is: 1) If Tories stay in, fight for a referendum, campaign for Remain against their bad deal 2) If Labour get in, negotiate a softer Brexit deal involving Customs Union /Single Market to remove the backstop, have a referendum and officially campaign for their deal This is not contradictory and it is not illogical. It is the fairest approach on a hugely divisive issue with a 48/52 previous result.
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A Scottish appeals court ruled against prorogation, the next hearing is the 17th.
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Jables88 posted:2) If Labour get in, negotiate a softer Brexit deal involving Customs Union /Single Market to remove the backstop, have a referendum and officially campaign for their deal I don't think they would necessarily campaign for their deal. I think they'd give members and MPs free reign to campaign for either side
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RandomPauI posted:A Scottish appeals court ruled against prorogation, the next hearing is the 17th. gently caress now it's up to Wales as the tie-breaker
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you know, the only real place this can go from here is another referendum with another leave victory
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Jables88 posted:When Labour are rising in the polls and we have any kind of unity he chooses that exact moment to drive his useless 'Labour should switch to unequivocal Remain support' attack line. The subtext of this is simply that he wants to oust Corbyn of course. So if you want Remain, you should... hope the Tories remain in power?
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RandomPauI posted:A Scottish appeals court ruled against prorogation, the next hearing is the 17th. Some legal types are saying that this means MPs can go back to work right away. Just lol if they open parliament again today. Civilized Fishbot posted:you know, the only real place this can go from here is another referendum with another leave victory As dumb as brexit so obviously is and as much as I'm against this whole stupid thing, I would accept a remain loss in a second referendum if leave voters were actually voting for something specific this time.
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Random rear end in a top hat posted:So if you want Remain, you should... hope the Tories remain in power? This suggests that Labour's campaigning one way or the other would be what tips a second referendum over to Remain or Leave. I think a second referendum is pretty much a lock for Leave, so the only sensible approach is to make sure that Leave isn't a disaster. EDIT: quote:As dumb as brexit so obviously is and as much as I'm against this whole stupid thing, I would accept a remain loss in a second referendum if leave voters were actually voting for something specific this time. Exactly, it's loving this.
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i think remain would beat no deal in a referendum at about 55:45 but i absolutely do not want to find out i'm wrong because it would be a loving stupid idea
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Jose posted:i think remain would beat no deal in a referendum at about 55:45 but i absolutely do not want to find out i'm wrong because it would be a loving stupid idea No deal is catastrophically idiotic, but if that's what it would take to settle this then that's what we should do. If people knowingly vote no deal then so be it. (I think labour's plan is best, but if it's a choice between no 2nd ref, and 2nd ref with no deal option, then gently caress it let's try that) Loser's consent is really, really important and right now they don't have it. We also wouldn't have it if A50 is simply revoked. it dont matter has issued a correction as of 11:09 on Sep 11, 2019 |
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Jose posted:i think remain would beat no deal in a referendum at about 55:45 but i absolutely do not want to find out i'm wrong because it would be a loving stupid idea Fairly sure that Labour have said that no deal would not be on the ballot because it is a loving moronic idea and they are not going to allow people to vote for something that is clearly against their own self interest. As somebody who is not a Labour supporter and actually wants to remain, their plan is clearly the best. Simply revoking art. 50 is dumb as poo poo and as others have said, now the majority of people understand what a cluster gently caress this all is, if they still wanted to leave with a deal that actually makes sense then I would accept it. I would still fight to rejoin the EU at a later date, however, I wouldn't be able to say that people had no idea what they were voting for anymore in actual honesty.
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https://twitter.com/hmtreasury/status/1171454868277489664 Wait I changed my mind let's no deal right now
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A brief little Brexit haiku: https://twitter.com/Adam_SH69/status/1171689413459488768?s=20
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alphabettitouretti posted:https://twitter.com/hmtreasury/status/1171454868277489664 quote:- People travelling to the EU will be able to take advantage of duty free shopping meaning they won’t have to pay UK excise duties on cigarettes and alcohol Imagine how much money you can save on two crates of beer, all you need to do is buy a round trip plane ticket (don’t forget the cost of the visa) https://twitter.com/seankenny/status/1098313467981950977?s=20 twoday has issued a correction as of 11:34 on Sep 11, 2019 |
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https://twitter.com/davidallengreen/status/1171721092500791296 https://twitter.com/davidallengreen/status/1171730033750228993 Another record! Good going, Boris!
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frankenfreak posted:https://twitter.com/davidallengreen/status/1171721092500791296 congratulations boris!
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