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BBJoey
Oct 31, 2012

MysticalMachineGun posted:

If international students make up over half the student body and win the election fair and square then what's the problem?

Just because we're rinsing them for all they're worth doesn't mean they should be allowed to do anything, man.

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The Peccadillo
Mar 4, 2013

We Have Important Work To Do
https://twitter.com/vanamalihermans/status/1171325826404499456

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.
If you go private for birth you should only even consider doing it at a private that’s co-located with a good public hospital like Frances Perry (womens) or Jessie Mac (Monash)

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.

fauna posted:



centrelink has forced me to new depths

If you do end up having to do this job, please do zero effort and constantly post here about it instead of what you are supposed to be doing.

Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

#ideasboom
College Slice

Solemn Sloth posted:

If you go private for birth you should only even consider doing it at a private that’s co-located with a good public hospital like Frances Perry (womens) or Jessie Mac (Monash)

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Seriously, if anything goes even slightly wrong, especially with the baby, you will probably end up being transferred, as Private Hospitals always seem to be missing a Pediatric or Neonate dept or other necessary unit. They don't have people on 24 hours to respond to emergencies of that sort most of the time. I'm sure this is 100% about keeping staffing and insurance costs down by making sure that nobody is in a position to die on campus, but it's something you need to consider. Their business model is smashing out day surgeries, sections and the odd ~Natural Birth~ if that's in vogue at the time, not dealing with actual complicated medical problems. Private Health is a loving joke.

If you go anywhere that doesn't share a location with a public hospital and something goes sideways, you're going to be thrown into an ambulance before someone misses their golf game.

Just go public, but do some research and find a hospital that isn't juggling beds or permanently on bypass because that can suck. My partner was in spurious labour for 5 days with our first, and both of the hospitals we presented at refused to admit her and induce because they didn't want to give up a bed for someone who wasn't >6cm dilated, and she ended up bleeding out and needing like 4 units of blood as a result. We went to a different public hospital the second time and they were fantastic, even when things didn't go to plan.

fauna
Dec 6, 2018


Caught between two worlds...

Zenithe posted:

If you do end up having to do this job, please do zero effort and constantly post here about it instead of what you are supposed to be doing.
lol if you think i won't give 150% and be the sparkliest loving christmas elf anyone ever saw

fauna
Dec 6, 2018


Caught between two worlds...
i always hoped i'd somehow end up working for a goon and the community would see my outrageous work ethic and dedication to my job, because my actual value as an employee throws my employment history into sad relief. i am a victim of the plastic age

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

squat my posts

Big Willy Style posted:

Yeah don't do this. Private hospitals will basically bully women into having c sections so everything can be planned nice and neat. If anything serious actually goes wrong they're gonna send you to a public hospital anyway.

This is all probably true, but isn’t always the case. You just need to do your diligence. We were kind of herded into private as the public hospitals around us were going through a form slump and we had picked a couple of specialists who only worked out of private.

They were c-section as a last resort encouraging natural birth (nothing but awe struck respect for anyone who has gone through child birth in any number of ways).

We went natural, natural (30min after arrival), full catastrophe emergency c-section and scheduled (no choice) and they didn’t miss a beat.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

fauna posted:

i always hoped i'd somehow end up working for a goon and the community would see my outrageous work ethic and dedication to my job, because my actual value as an employee throws my employment history into sad relief. i am a victim of the plastic age

You can work for me I'm starting a Shopify just tells customers to eat poo poo and die it pays piece rates hope that's cool

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
Also if you are active in your pursuit of doctors and outcomes you want they'll do poo poo you want them to do.

thatbastardken
Apr 23, 2010

A contract signed by a minor is not binding!
the trick is to blackmail them

The Peccadillo
Mar 4, 2013

We Have Important Work To Do

JBP posted:

Also if you are active in your pursuit of doctors and outcomes you want they'll do poo poo you want them to do.

https://abc.net.au/news/2019-09-09/alex-braes-death-still-haunts-doctors/11470424

https://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/article/2019/09/10/ambulance-victoria-apologises-family-tanya-day

The Peccadillo fucked around with this message at 11:41 on Sep 11, 2019

Mr Chips
Jun 27, 2007
Whose arse do I have to blow smoke up to get rid of this baby?

Don Dongington posted:

Seriously, if anything goes even slightly wrong, especially with the baby, you will probably end up being transferred, as Private Hospitals always seem to be missing a Pediatric or Neonate dept or other necessary unit.
this was Mr and Mrs Chips' experience too.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Humans administer health care.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again


Sean Leahy is again not getting published.

The Peccadillo
Mar 4, 2013

We Have Important Work To Do

Anidav posted:



Sean Leahy is again not getting published.

Bill Shorten is doing a ring around the rosy with Albo and Turnbull and Abbot and Gillard and Rudd and Howard etc. with Jerry cans held tipsily in hand in the background

Whitlam
Aug 2, 2014

Some goons overreact. Go figure.

Anidav posted:

I think the issue is people are concerned that a student body could in theory get taken over by CCP orgs and use the funding to student services to bankroll pro Beijing events and activities while denying funding to others.

I didn't/don't go to Monash so I don't really have a horse in this race, but I've got a friend who does who says last time a party of only international students got in they campaigned only in Mandarin, used the money to fund their own private dinners, and basically eroded the trust and culture of the union. No idea how true it is (fwiw said friend speaks Mandarin and has lived in China), but if it is true (or if it's a perception shared by a chunk of the student body) then yeah I can see why they'd want to avoid a repeat. Plus yeah, the whole Hong Kong/Uyghur/Beijing influence thing.

The Peccadillo
Mar 4, 2013

We Have Important Work To Do
I hate the Uyghur influence on campuses, and as such my political/personal life, Hmong is one thing but man ... Not panicking about the The Turkish Fire meets the Yellow Peril is so much to expect of me

The Peccadillo fucked around with this message at 12:37 on Sep 11, 2019

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
The Chinese students that live near queen Vic market are really loving annoying they don't walk on the left of the footpath

thatbastardken
Apr 23, 2010

A contract signed by a minor is not binding!

JBP posted:

The Chinese students that live near queen Vic market are really loving annoying they don't walk on the left of the footpath

so much for socialism with chinese characteristics!

Jonah Galtberg
Feb 11, 2009

most of the international students you notice for being annoying and inconsiderate are from rich as gently caress families, therefore they behave like your typical rich fucks. with tuition and accomodation being so expensive the international student population is going to be disproportionately rich and gently caress

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Jonah Galtberg posted:

most of the international students you notice for being annoying and inconsiderate are from rich as gently caress families, therefore they behave like your typical rich fucks. with tuition and accomodation being so expensive the international student population is going to be disproportionately rich and gently caress

Yeah they're rich as hell they've all got Maseratis and poo poo it's crazy

Whitlam
Aug 2, 2014

Some goons overreact. Go figure.

JBP posted:

Yeah they're rich as hell they've all got Maseratis and poo poo it's crazy

I guess you could call them... crazy rich Asians? :thunkher:

Jonah Galtberg
Feb 11, 2009

also if they're mainland chinese they're going to be little emperors/empresses with the sense of entitlement and retarded social development that goes along with being spoiled little shits for their entire lives

Sparticle
Oct 7, 2012

Whitlam posted:

last time a party of only international students got in they campaigned only in Mandarin, used the money to fund their own private dinners, and basically eroded the trust and culture of the union.

young liberals with chinese characteristics

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

squat my posts

Whitlam posted:

I didn't/don't go to Monash so I don't really have a horse in this race, but I've got a friend who does who says last time a party of only international students got in they campaigned only in Mandarin, used the money to fund their own private dinners, and basically eroded the trust and culture of the union. No idea how true it is (fwiw said friend speaks Mandarin and has lived in China), but if it is true (or if it's a perception shared by a chunk of the student body) then yeah I can see why they'd want to avoid a repeat. Plus yeah, the whole Hong Kong/Uyghur/Beijing influence thing.

I bet they're pining for the days when they only had to fight upstart societies over a slice of those sweet, sweet fees for our massive piss-ups at the racecourse hotel

NPR Journalizard
Feb 14, 2008

Jonah Galtberg posted:

also if they're mainland chinese they're going to be little emperors/empresses with the sense of entitlement and retarded social development that goes along with being spoiled little shits for their entire lives

wow

teacup
Dec 20, 2006

= M I L K E R S =
Lotta casual racism this last page


But I gotta admit a bunch of CCP wannabes complaining about being denied a democratic voice in the uni is hilarious

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

teacup posted:

Lotta casual racism this last page


But I gotta admit a bunch of CCP wannabes complaining about being denied a democratic voice in the uni is hilarious

It's classism. They're wealthy people from China.

Jonah Galtberg
Feb 11, 2009

teacup posted:

But I gotta admit a bunch of CCP wannabes complaining about being denied a democratic voice in the uni is hilarious

this is no more or less "casually racist" than anything else that's been said you idiot

thatbastardken
Apr 23, 2010

A contract signed by a minor is not binding!
this is FTE racism because we got unionised

Jonah Galtberg
Feb 11, 2009


the idea that chinese people are somehow genetically immune to the brain diseases caused by being spoiled rich kids is actually extremely racist and infantilising, hth

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
China are so incredibly powerful that they're blatantly our enemy and we have to suck it up and eat their crumbs because Australia isn't meaningful in any way lol

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Jonah Galtberg posted:

the idea that chinese people are somehow genetically immune to the brain diseases caused by being spoiled rich kids is actually extremely racist and infantilising, hth

He's mad that you used the word retarded (correctly)

Jonah Galtberg
Feb 11, 2009

must have struck a chord

Jonah Galtberg
Feb 11, 2009

JBP posted:

China are so incredibly powerful that they're blatantly our enemy and we have to suck it up and eat their crumbs because Australia isn't meaningful in any way lol

remember how everyone loved to talk about how we had so much ~*~*~*~soft power~*~*~*~ and ~*~*~*~*~~**~~*~*~*punched above our weight~*~*~*~~*~**~ when in reality we were just riding the wave of american dominance through the 90s and 00s

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006

Jonah Galtberg posted:

remember how everyone loved to talk about how we had so much ~*~*~*~soft power~*~*~*~ and ~*~*~*~*~~**~~*~*~*punched above our weight~*~*~*~~*~**~ when in reality we were just riding the wave of american dominance through the 90s and 00s

I don't remember it but that's an extremely Aussie attitude.

NPR Journalizard
Feb 14, 2008

Jonah Galtberg posted:

the idea that chinese people are somehow genetically immune to the brain diseases caused by being spoiled rich kids is actually extremely racist and infantilising, hth

wow

Jonah Galtberg
Feb 11, 2009

back when I used to watch the ABC it came up pretty frequently

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Jonah Galtberg
Feb 11, 2009


oh no, it's little emperor-ed :(

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