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raminasi posted:they demanded i come in and talk to them in person to get a sense of what i was looking for. i've had good experiences doing this, but their little interview was formulaic and weird. (like, for each thing on my resume they made me tell them what % of it was "development" and what % was "architecture.") they then submitted me for a role i was unqualified for and had no interest in. me and the company screener had a lol about it but then workbridge got mad and ghosted me. my time would have been better spent playing video games in my underwear. interesting. i just bailed on working with them again (didn't want to do that first time get to know ya chat when i was winding down my search) but i worked with em in the past and i got that ghosting you mentioned about 4 years ago when i whiffed on a few interviews i always thought it was cause i kinda bitched at their rep after i did an interview where they never even received or asked about a ~4 hour code exercise i did
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yeah recruiters who do nothing but fill out a few applications for you and ghost you when you blow them aren’t a problem if all they ask in return is one 15-minute phone call, but workbridge demands a bunch of your time and effort in exchange for their uselessness
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Sep 10, 2019 04:53
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recruiters Lmao
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stuffed crust punk posted:I think someone in here mentioned not working with Workbridge - any reason why? they wasted unusual amounts of my time even by the standards of recruiters many years ago got one lead out of them and they cost me like four hours of my time. not a great ratio
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i’m working with them right now. did the meet in person thing, wasn’t a huge deal and took like 45 mins. got two upcoming interviews from them so far. i haven’t interviewed since 2014 so we will see what happens if i whiff lol. my last boss really hated one of their recruiters though. my boss thought he was too pushy. it was pretty funny because when I met them in person said recruiter was like “yeah your last boss told me to gently caress off but no hard feelings, it’s a pretty competitive market. maybe you can put in a good word for me” and honestly i kinda liked the no-bs way they presented themselves to me
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https://www.spellingmistakescostlives.com/product-page/never-work-1-risograph-print e: to be clear I'm not trying to sell this, I just have this above my desk and look at it every time I start to get stressed about ~*my career*~ Not a Children fucked around with this message at 14:57 on Sep 10, 2019 |
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Sep 10, 2019 14:48
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Whats everyones thoughts on cover letters? Especially for applications that dont require it but give an opportunity to upload one. Personally, every hiring situation I've been in at multiple companies, the cover letter has been stripped away by HR and never even makes it to me as the hiring manager. Does it count on the HR side though?
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Sep 10, 2019 15:53
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i haven't used a cover letter or read a cover letter in like a decade
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Sep 10, 2019 15:57
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the modern cover letter is: "Hi <recruiter name>, See my attached resume as pdf. Looking forward to working with you! Best regards, <your name>"
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My thoughts on a cover letter is that it takes only a few minutes to edit my previous cover letter to update the date and put the new company's name in, so why not? It'd be different if I were ever shotgunning applications all over the place, of course, but I've only ever applied for three or four jobs at once (and that peak was when I was unemployed, too).
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Sep 10, 2019 16:29
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my only anecdote re: cover letters is that i asked my boss after I was hired and working a while. she never saw the cover letter at all, and it goes submission->HR->hiring team lead, so I imagine HR didn't keep or possibly even read it
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for the most part cover letters are a waste of time and nobody cares about them. there are some exceptions. a cover letter is your chance to do the recruiter’s job for them and get noticed where you otherwise wouldn’t be. if you’re applying for a job where the skills they’re asking for aren’t reflected in your resume, the cover letter is where you explain to the recruiter why you’re actually what they’re looking for. like if the job calls for c# skills and you have java skills, you can tell the recruiter, who may not otherwise be aware, that you’re a closer candidate than it looks like on paper. another case is that it gives you a chance to tell a story. you can say that you see this company is working in trying to make xyz work, and the years you spent at a previous role were spent on a similar product and you have a lot of relevant experience in this field.
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The Management posted:for the most part cover letters are a waste of time and nobody cares about them. there are some exceptions. a cover letter is your chance to do the recruiter’s job for them and get noticed where you otherwise wouldn’t be. and even given all that odds are they will not be read and will not be able to be read
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The Management posted:for the most part cover letters are a waste of time and nobody cares about them. there are some exceptions. a cover letter is your chance to do the recruiter’s job for them and get noticed where you otherwise wouldn’t be. yeah, I did one cover letter when I was switching from it to development and basically said "hey I know my titles don't line up but you should at least talk to me cause I promise I've got the skills you want" I was also applying directly to the team doing the hiring, not a recruiter or hr (not that I knew this at the time)
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Sep 10, 2019 20:40
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The best cover letter is knowing the person who will be making the hiring decision socially. Which would be why I'm an failed, under-employed PoS.
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:Whats everyones thoughts on cover letters? Especially for applications that dont require it but give an opportunity to upload one.
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yeah I wrote one for a job last night that would be a transition from service provider land to customer land explaining the skills match. may not get read but it took me maybe 20 minutes? honestly it helped me in framing what I’m looking for too.
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Sep 10, 2019 22:18
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Over the years I've experimented with various cover letter variations, but no matter what I do, it doesn't seem to matter much in terms of response rate. These days I just include a 2 sentence generic cover letter, or leave it blank.
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Sep 10, 2019 23:03
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Just introduce yourself and literally copy paste the relevant job requirements into the cover letter and call it a day.
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Sep 11, 2019 01:19
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Applied for another job I won't ever hear back from!
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Sep 11, 2019 01:28
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Schadenboner posted:Applied for another job I won't ever hear back from! same, buddy, same. also lmao if we’re unknowingly competing for jobs in MKE
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:same, buddy, same. also lmao if we’re unknowingly competing for jobs in MKE Are you a lovely developer or a lovely ops guy?
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I’m a lovely it and operations manager
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:I’m a lovely it and operations manager Nah, you're probably applying to be my lovely boss then? 
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Schadenboner posted:Applied for another job I won't ever hear back from! 
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Schadenboner posted:Applied for another job I won't ever hear back from! hell yeah same
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Sep 11, 2019 04:17
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Schadenboner posted:Applied for another job I won't ever hear back from! When I first moved to Canada I was applying for basically every job that came up in indeed. The job I actually got I forgot I even applied to it in the first place lol.
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qhat posted:The job I actually got I forgot I even applied to it in the first place lol.
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Sep 11, 2019 09:08
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i got contacted for a "lead dev" position, which on paper sounds like a step-up I'm assuming it means anything from "you'll join the existing team of lead devs" to "you're the one dev on that project so you're lead" with a low probability for "you'll have some responsabilities" What kind of mindset should I exhibit to look like a competent match ? I'm used to interviews but I'm not sure what they could expect except stuff like people and organization skills on top of the rest, maybe ?
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Sep 11, 2019 11:09
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I was supposed to interview a guy yesterday but his wife called about 2 hours beforehand and told us that he was in a car accident.
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ThePeavstenator posted:I was supposed to interview a guy yesterday but his wife called about 2 hours beforehand and told us that he was in a car accident. Was the car ok? You could offer to interview the widow?
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Sep 11, 2019 11:19
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gf got to last round of interviews with a cool woke non profit but the hiring lead there is going to chat to a previous employer who had to pay out an employment rights claim to her so isn't looking good
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I got a call last week "Hi this is <CEO> from <company>, I came across your resume and I think you'd be a good fit for our Director of Operations position". We talked for about a half hour, the company sounds good, the position is something I'm looking to pivot into, the guy seems cool. "OK, I'll email you the job description so you can look it over, call or email me and let me know if you'd like to come in for interviews" I get the email, the JD looks good, shoot him an email saying "I like what your company does and I'm confident I can add value, I'd like to schedule a time to interview with you and your team" Radio silence. Leave him a voicemail this week. Radio silence. I loving LOVE JOB SEARCHING
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Sep 11, 2019 14:01
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Guess they're on vacation!
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silvergoose posted:Guess they're on vacation! The CEO got fired
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I've been ghosted by at least 3 recuiters so far, on the first reply as if these jobs got filled seconds after the linkedin messages is sent
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company I interviewed at is asking for references, but I haven’t seen a job offer or even if their comp is something I’d consider. should I push back? also who asks for references in this day and age?
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Sep 11, 2019 21:00
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i always get asked but it's only at the offer stage that i will provide them
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freeasinbeer posted:company I interviewed at is asking for references, but I haven’t seen a job offer or even if their comp is something I’d consider. should I push back? References are provided after comp has been agreed on
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well, time to do a code exercise on the last interview process i have in flight after stopping my search i was told i would get 3 hours for it, i'm giving it 90 tops
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