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Play posted:Let's see what happens once California passes that bill requiring college players to be compensated for their names and likenesses. That would certainly shake up the equation There’s not going to be any scenario where California schools have that advantage over everyone else for more than a year or two. Something will give one way or another. I think the NCAA will get their way one way or another. Their opposition to bathroom bills a few years back was just a warm up for this kind of battle. General Dog fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Sep 11, 2019 |
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General Dog posted:There’s not going to be any scenario where California schools have that advantage over everyone else for more than a year or two. Something will give one way or another. Even on the books, they'll make less money than they would in the SEC.
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Sep 11, 2019 17:38
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General Dog posted:It's Dino Babers (long 'a'), not Barbers (like men who cut people hair). Dino rhymes with casino, correct?
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Sep 11, 2019 17:57
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Emron posted:Dino rhymes with casino, correct? That’s how I’ve always heard it. Like the Flintstones’ pet
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Sep 11, 2019 17:58
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I think the stipends should be standardized across all conferences and schools. In fact, it should probably equal across all officially sanctioned NCAA sports. It's a large burden for athletic departments, but perhaps it should be facilitated by NCAA basketball tournament revenue and/or P5 football revenue. I don't like the idea of a sort of free agency system where Alabama pays their players $10,000 while Kent State pays a quarter of that. Or that P5 schools can give their women's soccer teams a stipend, but less wealthy schools can't. Equal stipends will be necessary to maintain competitiveness across sports.
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Sep 11, 2019 18:10
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I can't bear to imagine a world where the rich programs have a gigantic advantage over the less rich programs and only about 15 programs have a chance at ever winning a championship.
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Sep 11, 2019 18:25
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Komet posted:I think the stipends should be standardized across all conferences and schools. In fact, it should probably equal across all officially sanctioned NCAA sports. It's a large burden for athletic departments, but perhaps it should be facilitated by NCAA basketball tournament revenue and/or P5 football revenue. I don't like the idea of a sort of free agency system where Alabama pays their players $10,000 while Kent State pays a quarter of that. Or that P5 schools can give their women's soccer teams a stipend, but less wealthy schools can't. Equal stipends will be necessary to maintain competitiveness across sports. Lmao if you think you can get a five star recruit for ten grand
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Sep 11, 2019 18:36
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Cam Newton was arguably the most valuable player in college football history and cost $200,000, so you can basically set the market from that.
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Sep 11, 2019 18:52
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General Dog posted:Cam Newton was arguably the most valuable player in college football history and cost $200,000, so you can basically set the market from that. Lmao that was forever ago
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Sep 11, 2019 19:05
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General Dog posted:There’s not going to be any scenario where California schools have that advantage over everyone else for more than a year or two. Something will give one way or another. I agree, but a couple years could be enough to get a program back on track. Honestly it's kind of weird to ponder what will happen if that law is passed because I have absolutely no clue, it could go in all sorts of different directions. Probably the NCAA will get their way but just because it's California I feel like they might not totally . . . California lawmakers are not at the beck and call of the NCAA. Depends on how successfully they scare people into believing that passing the bill will actually harm the athletes and athletic programs in CA.
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Sep 11, 2019 19:09
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Is it weird that my first thought upon hearing that T. Boone Pickens died, my first thought was to what this may mean for Oklahoma State?
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Sep 11, 2019 19:56
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Raku posted:Lmao that was forever ago 500k for three years of trevor or tua is a steal, imo i mean poo poo even khalil tate is probably worth 100k just for making arizona somewhat watchable
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Sep 11, 2019 19:58
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It means Gundy won
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Sep 11, 2019 19:58
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General Dog posted:Cam Newton was arguably the most valuable player in college football history and cost $200,000, so you can basically set the market from that. Pretty sure the MVP was Tim Tebow and he got paid in foreskins so...
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General Dog posted:I think the NCAA will get their way one way or another. Their opposition to bathroom bills a few years back was just a warm up for this kind of battle. Dan Bishop, the lead sponsor and author of HB2 in NC, just got elected to a US House seat yesterday. gently caress this state! News: “I love road games. Just the fact that the crowd is always hype and then you can sense the energy change as you keep beating them,” Terrell Lewis said (OLB, Alabama). “They're loud, loud, loud and then you start to see people get quiet and you start to see people leave. It's fun because you know you dominated your opponent.” Views: 
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Sep 11, 2019 20:06
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Democrazy posted:Is it weird that my first thought upon hearing that T. Boone Pickens died, my first thought was to what this may mean for Oklahoma State? I had the exact same thought. poo poo probably about to get ugly at Okie State unless he built something into his will.
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Sep 11, 2019 20:09
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Sash! posted:I don't get this whole.... Why were they hyping up the dentist chair? Seems like coaches with medical issues coach from the box all the time. Why do I care what he's sitting on? i dont know why they're hiping it up, but it likely lets him remain somewhat prone and able to see.
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Sep 11, 2019 20:15
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Democrazy posted:Is it weird that my first thought upon hearing that T. Boone Pickens died, my first thought was to what this may mean for Oklahoma State? I know very little about T. Boone's relationship with Okie State... Can you fill me in?
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Sep 11, 2019 20:17
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Bird in a Blender posted:I had the exact same thought. poo poo probably about to get ugly at Okie State unless he built something into his will. Think of how different things might have been for Gundy and Okie State had it not been for a certain team upsetting them in 2011.
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Sep 11, 2019 20:17
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Scarf posted:I know very little about T. Boone's relationship with Okie State... Can you fill me in? He's buys all the things
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Sep 11, 2019 20:19
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Democrazy posted:Think of how different things might have been for Gundy and Okie State had it not been for a certain team upsetting them in 2011. Yes, a real shame.
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Sep 11, 2019 20:21
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Scarf posted:I know very little about T. Boone's relationship with Okie State... Can you fill me in? It's similar to Jerry Jones' relationship with the Dallas Cowboys
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Sep 11, 2019 20:23
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Scarf posted:I know very little about T. Boone's relationship with Okie State... Can you fill me in? He's been bankrolling their athletic department for decades
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Sep 11, 2019 20:29
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vyst posted:He's buys all the things General Dog posted:It's similar to Jerry Jones' relationship with the Dallas Cowboys Henchman of Santa posted:He's been bankrolling their athletic department for decades Oof. Yeah, things are about to be really good for OkSt. or reeeeeeeaaaaaally bad.
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Sep 11, 2019 20:29
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Democrazy posted:Is it weird that my first thought upon hearing that T. Boone Pickens died, my first thought was to what this may mean for Oklahoma State? That their administration has to kiss his kid's rear end instead of him.
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Henchman of Santa posted:He's been bankrolling their athletic department for decades And as a result decided that meant he got to meddle in everything, which nearly ran off Gundy a couple times.
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Sep 11, 2019 20:34
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Scarf posted:Oof. Yeah, things are about to be really good for OkSt. or reeeeeeeaaaaaally bad. I imagine his estate will take good care of them.
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Raku posted:Lmao if you think you can get a five star recruit for ten grand Under the scenario described, there might not be much more than that laying around. If you're paying all athletes in all sports the same, it'll add up fast. $10k per student athlete across all sports would be close to a $10m payroll at Penn State, for example.
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Sep 11, 2019 20:42
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they make 50+ million a year just from TV lol
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vyst posted:He's buys all the things He also bought all the water right in the midwest so you can curse Okie Lite when you die of thirst in the next Dust Bowl also lol he died on 9/11 dirty shrimp money fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Sep 11, 2019 |
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Sep 11, 2019 20:58
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t. boone  ens
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MourningView posted:It means Gundy won 
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The only difference for OSU will be that the money they get doesn't come with access strings. OSU endowment is prolly gonna jump by a billion dollars in 3... 2... 1... And that's not even what's earmarked for althetics.
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huh pickens' net worth ain't as high as i figured it was, knowing roughly the amount/type of stuff he was tangled up in guessing theres got to be more fortune squirreled away or being proxied by family? PupsOfWar fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Sep 11, 2019 |
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Markus Bailey blew his knee in a non-contact practice drill........ https://twitter.com/carmin_jc/status/1171864647005343748?s=20
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MourningView posted:they make 50+ million a year just from TV lol And they spent it on everything that isn't football. $129m expenses on $132 revenue.
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Sash! posted:And they spent it on everything that isn't football. $129m expenses on $132 revenue. The expenses are complete bullshit though. They inflate them specifically so they can paint athletics as either a money loser or just barely breaking even so they can justify not paying players. It usually includes all sorts of unnecessary capital projects (weird that literally every team in the conference suddenly needed a brand new multimillion dollar weight room or stadium renovation right around the time the TV contracts exploded) and they pretend that the cost of a scholarship is the same as the cost of tuition and room and board, which is horseshit unless you actually think they're declining to admit a paying student for every single scholarship athlete they admit. They already have the dorms and they're already holding classes whether there's an athlete in them or not, it doesn't actually cost the school that much to admit a football player on a scholarship. There is also no reason coaches need to make as much as they do, other than that everyone has way too much money and needs a place to spend it so it doesn't look like they're making too much. Andy Schwarz has done of a ton of work on this, here's a good article from him on the bullshit accounting schools are doing: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/yp79py/college-sports-program-accounting-scam MourningView fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Sep 11, 2019 |
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 if you think that the players are going to get a stipend. Those hordes of associate deans all need raises (it's hard to live on $200,000/year!), and those opulent ten-year-old administrative facilities need upgrading.
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Democrazy posted:Is it weird that my first thought upon hearing that T. Boone Pickens died, my first thought was to what this may mean for Oklahoma State? Either they get a few billion dollars or they lose most of their donations.
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If Gundy comes out next week with decorative gold flakes in his mullet, then you'll know that the athletics department got a big endowment from the estate.
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