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ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
I don't know how people don't like cooking, it's such a chill way to wind down with an audiobook or something on and at the end you get a tasty meal

E: also the absolute easiest veggie dish is pesto pasta, takes as long as it takes you to boil it

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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Josef bugman posted:

It's a group freezer so no idea how cold.

Thanks folks, will check that out.

Quick thing but do people have like a device online for meal planning?

If it's a crappy freezer it'll also probably vary a lot between where you put stuff, especially if it's overfull and the vents are obstructed. Try not to worry too much I guess, you probably don't have like a -25C monstrosity like we used to at work.

ThomasPaine posted:

I don't know how people don't like cooking, it's such a chill way to wind down with an audiobook or something on and at the end you get a tasty meal

If you don't do a lot of it it's stressful, also it's time consuming, I often can't be arsed to do it. Cooking a new recipe is also always kinda worrying cos you never know if it'll turn out right.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

This avatar made possible by a gift from the Religionthread Posters Relief Fund

ThomasPaine posted:

I don't know how people don't like cooking, it's such a chill way to wind down with an audiobook or something on and at the end you get a tasty meal

Lots of reasons, but in my case it's because I often have difficulty leaving my room (house share, wooo) and don't like taking up space that I don't feel is "mine". That and, just in general putting hours of effort into something that is gone in seconds.

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


Gasmask posted:

You don’t have to eat pure Marmite, just add a dollop to anything you want to taste a bit poo poo :eng101:

But you should eat it pure because it's amazing.

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
Cut tofu into cubes and freeze, when it defrosts most of the liquid drains out and the texture changes to something similar to chicken. It also absorbs liquid like a sponge so you can marinate with siracha, soy sauce or even some chicken stock if you aren't going proper vegetarian.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
Well I don't like cooking because I don't have the talent for it. I can follow a recipe, but I definitely couldn't make something up on the fly because I really have no idea what I'm doing. And if I haven't got an ingredient the recipe calls for, I panic.

There are people that can taste a dish on the stove and go "hmmm that needs more salt". I'm not one of those people, I have no loving clue what a dish needs more of to taste betterer

E: but it's cheap and I like money so I saved a bunch of my favorite recipes and use them so often I can do them on autopilot and end up with :yum:

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Big batches can help a lot with cooking feeling more rewarding. I made a giant loving pile of welsh cakes following my first attempt at the recipe and have eaten like half a kilo of flour and a whole pack of butter in the past few days cos I've been having them for breakfast and supper :v: It's not more effort to make the same recipe with bigger portions but you get to eat it a lot more.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

ThomasPaine posted:

I don't know how people don't like cooking, it's such a chill way to wind down with an audiobook or something on and at the end you get a tasty meal
OR pot noodle and world of warcraft

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

Well I don't like cooking because I don't have the talent for it. I can follow a recipe, but I definitely couldn't make something up on the fly because I really have no idea what I'm doing. And if I haven't got an ingredient the recipe calls for, I panic.

There are people that can taste a dish on the stove and go "hmmm that needs more salt". I'm not one of those people, I have no loving clue what a dish needs more of to taste betterer

E: but it's cheap and I like money so I saved a bunch of my favorite recipes and use them so often I can do them on autopilot and end up with :yum:

1) Does the food taste too salty? If yes, add spice.

If no, go to 2)

2) Does the food taste good? If yes, eat.

If no, add salt.

Goto 1)

There, simple.

Dead Goon
Dec 13, 2002

No Obvious Flaws



I think people ITT that don't like Marmite are trying to eat spoonfuls out of the jar.

That's not how you do it goons.

mrpwase
Apr 21, 2010

I HAVE GREAT AVATAR IDEAS
For the Many, Not the Few


Bugman if you have an Android phone have a look at Plant Jammer, you can put in whatever ingredient you have and it will suggest stuff that goes with then generate you a recipe. I've found it really helps when you have little idea what to cook but have stuff in your fridge, I hope it helps you too.

Trin Tragula
Apr 22, 2005

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

There are people that can taste a dish on the stove and go "hmmm that needs more salt". I'm not one of those people, I have no loving clue what a dish needs more of to taste betterer

There's no skill required for this, good old trial and error does just fine. Put it in yer gob, think "would I like this more if it had more salt?" If so, put more salt in. If not, don't. If you have no clue, try it and see what happens. Maybe it'll be good, maybe it'll be shite, but either way it's a data point for next time. Eventually you'll have built up enough data points to start going "aha, at this point it tastes like this, and last time I put a bit of Lea & P in and I liked it more, so I'll do that again".

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

namesake posted:

1) Does the food taste too salty? If yes, add spice.

If no, go to 2)

2) Does the food taste good? If yes, eat.

If no, add salt.

Goto 1)

There, simple.

Where were you when I was in uni flinging poo poo around the kitchen like an idiot

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Josef bugman posted:

Lots of reasons, but in my case it's because I often have difficulty leaving my room (house share, wooo) and don't like taking up space that I don't feel is "mine".

Yeah I get that. I'm probably moving into a house share in a couple of months after living with just my partner for like 5 years and tbh I'm not altogether looking forward to it.

OzyMandrill
Aug 12, 2013

Look upon my words
and despair

For vege chili/bolog, I recommend gettingeither Hendersons relish, or mushroom ketchup (both vegan Worcester sauce replacements) and a splash of port, which is easier to keep for a months for cooking.

Nuclear Spoon
Aug 18, 2010

I want to cry out
but I don’t scream and I don’t shout
And I feel so proud
to be alive
re: tom watson

there's chat that he stitched up one of the CLP branch meetings about it but ther'es still like 5 or 6 other branches to vote on it

can't find any sources other than skawkbox though

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


Josef bugman posted:

Thanks! How does it freeze BTW?

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

Can't say I've tried
I can help out there:

Borrovan posted:

I defrosted a tub of bean chilli one of you guys posted a recipe for months back and am currently eating a huge burrito. Is good.

Thanks, nameless goon
Is good.

Thanks, JeremoudCorbynejad :)

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
https://twitter.com/BylineTimes/status/1171802273342795776?s=19

They bet the house on burning everything down.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Gonzo McFee posted:

They bet the house on burning everything down.

I believe this is called insurance fraud.

BalloonFish
Jun 30, 2013



Fun Shoe

Guavanaut posted:

On one hand, the only countries with uncodified constitutions tend to be bad ones, like Israel, Saudi Arabia, and the UK.

On the other, I don't trust any government we've had in the past 40 years to write one.

Or 140 years. I had a moment of realisation when we did the Chartists and the turmoil of 1832-1848 at school - this was probably the time in British history when we came closest to getting a modern written codified constitution. But all the people calling for one were mill-owning mid-Victorian hyper-liberals of the same strain that would found The Guardian. If they'd got what they wanted then the resulting document would probably have made trade unions, income tax, the minimum wage and the NHS unconstitutional.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Yeah salt your food when you're cooking, that way all the flavours come out. If you put salt on cooked food then it's just unsalted food with salt on top!

I mean unless that's what you're going for

Dead Goon posted:

I think people ITT that don't like Marmite are trying to eat spoonfuls out of the jar.

That's not how you do it goons.

yeah you do it like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IsVNhFDxhs&t=418s

(I have two degrees of separation from this guy :ninja: )

El Grillo
Jan 3, 2008
Fun Shoe

Collateral posted:

So what is the Queen in all this, a lever? They are ruling that the Queen is utterly bound to do what a PM says?
The judgment won't be out until Friday, I assume however that the court has done that this, because for all practical purposes this is the case. Her but following the advice would cause a gigantic constitutional crisis which would make the current one look like a small, orderly barn dance by comparison.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

OwlFancier posted:

I believe this is called insurance fraud.

Only when there's less than 9 zeroes involved.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Collateral posted:

So what is the Queen in all this, a lever? They are ruling that the Queen is utterly bound to do what a PM says? The point of it being advice is that she doesn't have to take it. I'm not entirely sure people realise just how serious this is.

We've had actual wars over what the monarch does with the advice of their ministers.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Re: cooking I also find a way to make things taste good (aside from turning them brown with animal fat in a frying pan) is to add more ingredients.

As above poo poo like worcester sauce is great cos it just adds more flavour. A big reason why some things taste crap is that they don't have enough flavours in them, so you get things that taste very samey. What you're actually tasting is like, the cheap LED problem of only having a couple of spikes of flavour across the entire spectrum of your palate, so stuff like fermented sauces or even just combining a bunch of crap ingredients together can produce a much fuller flavour profile.

Sadly all my favourite stuff for this is animal based, but you don't necessarily need a huge amount of it. Blue cheese, beef dripping for cooking in, worcester sauce, meat stock and the like all work in small amounts so you can still cut your consumption of animal products way down if you just use them where they count.

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

I look down on people who ruin perfectly good silken tofu by squeezing every last drop of water out of

Filboid Studge
Oct 1, 2010
And while they debated the matter among themselves, Conradin made himself another piece of toast.

brian posted:

he did???? when did that happen???

I have first-hand accounts of him going round TUC conferences and residentials in the 80s propositioning women he didn’t know. Key line “I’m like a brush-shaft in the mornings”.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem

Rarity posted:

This is a Guardian-level misrepresentation of facts

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

OwlFancier posted:

Sadly all my favourite stuff for this is animal based, but you don't necessarily need a huge amount of it. Blue cheese, beef dripping for cooking in, worcester sauce, meat stock and the like all work in small amounts so you can still cut your consumption of animal products way down if you just use them where they count.

Soy sauce works (especially dark since it's fermented longer), and fish sauce too - there's a vegan version of that which I haven't tried, but it's meant to be decent

Also cook yr dang spices in oil to activate them and bring out the flavours. Smoked paprika is like roast beef monster munch almost, but no animals involved

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


A lot of people itt like to dick on our unwritten constitution, but governing by convention is actually a great way of doing things - our constitution is quite possibly the most stable in world history, having survived in recognisable form for close to 1000 years. The advantage is its flexibility: when everyone's basically in agreement that something that's arguably "unconstitutional" is nonetheless the right thing to do, you can just revisit it and claim that it was actually something different all along; when something's a bit iffy, it forces a lot more scrutiny and makes it a lot harder to actually do it without repercussions (but without strictly preventing anything, in case something iffy is also necessary to preserve the safety and order of the state).

The fact that our constitution is failing now is down to one person:

Jeremy Corbyn. Unironically.

It's been clear for the past 2 years that the Government doesn't actually have the authority to govern - any other time in history they'd be VONCed without a second thought. But no, the establishment would much rather burn down a thousand year old constitution than even risk letting a spooky scary socialist anywhere near power. I guess that's just the flipside of having a "stable" constitution: that it's inherently reactionary, developing slowly and incrementally (by contrast to written constitutions, which - being inflexible - are prone to "break" instead). Which is actually kind of ironic, given that the whole advantage is flexibility.

No conclusions here, just a little rant I was mulling. TIBFJC, I guess.

BlankSystemDaemon
Mar 13, 2009



Dead Goon posted:

I have asked a few times, and my request has always been granted and I have ignored it.

Discord channel?
#ukgoons on irc.synirc.net :getin:

Coohoolin
Aug 5, 2012

Oor Coohoolie.

Dead Goon posted:

I have asked a few times, and my request has always been granted and I have ignored it.

Discord channel?

It's in the OP

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT




£8.3 billion in bets, wonder how much of that is Mogg's fund

Superterranean
May 3, 2005

after we lit this one, nothing was ever the same

Ratjaculation posted:

How long can I store chilled rice in the fridge before it gives me squits/kills me

Latepost but fuckit: chilled rice is safe for 2d, but once rice is cold the correct way to eat it is to fry it. It's also incorrect to make fried rice with rice less than a day old.

Collateral
Feb 17, 2010
Has anybody tried jack fruit? I hear it is a good meat substitute but not tried it yet.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

D. Ebdrup posted:

#ukgoons on irc.synirc.net :getin:

*Answers telephone* Hello, yes? :coffeepal:

Total Meatlove
Jan 28, 2007

:japan:
Rangers died, shoujo Hitler cried ;_;

Collateral posted:

Has anybody tried jack fruit? I hear it is a good meat substitute but not tried it yet.

They sell it in different sauces in Tesco ready done

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

OwlFancier posted:

Re: cooking I also find a way to make things taste good (aside from turning them brown with animal fat in a frying pan) is to add more ingredients.

As above poo poo like worcester sauce is great cos it just adds more flavour. A big reason why some things taste crap is that they don't have enough flavours in them, so you get things that taste very samey. What you're actually tasting is like, the cheap LED problem of only having a couple of spikes of flavour across the entire spectrum of your palate, so stuff like fermented sauces or even just combining a bunch of crap ingredients together can produce a much fuller flavour profile.

Sadly all my favourite stuff for this is animal based, but you don't necessarily need a huge amount of it. Blue cheese, beef dripping for cooking in, worcester sauce, meat stock and the like all work in small amounts so you can still cut your consumption of animal products way down if you just use them where they count.

The various sauces, worsceter, oyster, soy, fish, theyre cheatcodes to good flavor. Theyre very easy ways to get soups, sauces and stews to taste really good with absolutely minimal effort. Just put them in early to boil off undesirable flavors, like in the case of Fish sauce.

Also butter and salt are your friends. Do not be afraid of them.

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Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Collateral posted:

Has anybody tried jack fruit? I hear it is a good meat substitute but not tried it yet.

Jack fruit is great and I recommend it - especially with some BBQ sauce. Never cooked it from scratch but you can find some ready-made-stick-in-the-oven versions in big supermarkets.

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