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Jonah Galtberg posted:remember how everyone loved to talk about how we had so much ~*~*~*~soft power~*~*~*~ and ~*~*~*~*~~**~~*~*~*punched above our weight~*~*~*~~*~**~ when in reality we were just riding the wave of american dominance through the 90s and 00s Remember that time we tried to tell the US to stay out of East Timor because we weren't done stealing all of their oil and gas with Indonesia's blessing and Slick Willy said "lol nup" so turns out we don't deserve influence or soft power because we're low key fascist imperialists who would make China look like Finland or some poo poo if we actually had any.
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Jonah Galtberg posted:remember how everyone loved to talk about how we had so much ~*~*~*~soft power~*~*~*~ and ~*~*~*~*~~**~~*~*~*punched above our weight~*~*~*~~*~**~ when in reality we were just riding the wave of american dominance through the 90s and 00s https://www.fpwhitepaper.gov.au/foreign-policy-white-paper/chapter-eight-partnerships-and-soft-power/soft-power quote:We will develop a stronger nation brand that reinforces our reputation as an internationally competitive investment destination, a great place to visit, a quality provider of education and a trusted exporter of premium quality goods and services. 
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clusterfuck posted:2017 surely someone is having a laugh with this quote:Australia’s democracy, rule of law, strong economy, quality education, cutting-edge science, multiculturalism and environmental protections are all sources of influence. These facets of modern Australia underpin our ability to attract capital and talent from around the world. They enable Australians and Australian institutions to speak with confidence and with credibility on the world stage.
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Sep 11, 2019 14:03
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It's almost as sad as Australians that think the world will follow us into the golden age of renewable energy if we set an example by allowing ourselves to get eaten by international competitors
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Sep 11, 2019 14:07
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JBP posted:It's almost as sad as Australians that think the world will follow us into the golden age of renewable energy if we set an example by allowing ourselves to get eaten by international competitors   Your betters posted:Australia’s ability to persuade and influence others is underpinned by some enduring strengths.
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Sep 11, 2019 14:20
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There literally one thing this country has and it's rocks so let's sell the rocks and get ubereats imo you only live once
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Sep 11, 2019 14:22
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There's nothing more cutting-edge than digging up dead dinosaur matter and selling it to somebody else so they can light it on fire.
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Sep 11, 2019 14:23
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Sell the rocks before the commies steal them
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Sep 11, 2019 14:23
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Luckily once the market has dried up Prime Minister Dutton will be there to purchase our own natural resources from a foreign corporation and store in in warehouses or something.
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Sep 11, 2019 14:26
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Sell prison space to China for real
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Sep 11, 2019 14:27
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okay but what the gently caress is going on here.
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Sep 11, 2019 14:29
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Antarctica has zero experience reflection. Should we be worried?
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Sep 11, 2019 14:31
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It all went wrong when they didn't let Lang Hancock use nukes to mine in the Pilbara. Let's dig him up. He doesn't mind waiting. clusterfuck fucked around with this message at 14:43 on Sep 11, 2019 |
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Sep 11, 2019 14:34
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Humans administer china
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That's why it's bad!
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this thread "discussing" chinese-australians is a great example of how propaganda doesn't magically transform people into racists, it just reinforces racist views they have always held and then encourages them to express those views freely
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Sep 11, 2019 23:45
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fauna posted:this thread "discussing" chinese-australians is a great example of how propaganda doesn't magically transform people into racists, it just reinforces racist views they have always held and then encourages them to express those views freely The recent chat has nothing to do with Chinese Australians
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Sep 11, 2019 23:49
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imo it’s a good thing Morrison isn’t attending the UN climate conference. If he did he’d only serve to agitate against meaningful action, and hopefully non-attendance leads to Australia rightly becoming more of a pariah State on climate
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Sep 11, 2019 23:55
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JBP posted:The recent chat has nothing to do with Chinese Australians
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Sep 11, 2019 23:56
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Student guilds are hosed up and should be abolished anyway.
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fauna posted:when does a chinese person living in australia become an australian? When they become an Australian. If you go to study in Brazil are you a Brazilian lol
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fauna posted:this thread "discussing" chinese-australians is a great example of how propaganda doesn't magically transform people into racists, it just reinforces racist views they have always held and then encourages them to express those views freely Jonah Galtberg posted:the idea that chinese people are somehow genetically immune to the brain diseases caused by being spoiled rich kids is actually extremely racist and infantilising, hth
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I think we can criticise Chinese government interference / the Chinese government encouraging their citizens to take pro Chinese government views on controversial issues which are often profoundly anti democratic without being racist. It’s a legitimate issue in certain places like universities that now a university or business can’t even mention say, Taiwan without risking blowback from Chinese interests. That said saying “Chinese people are loving rude cunts, go back home you uncultured swine” like lately in the thread is a bit more difficult to swallow. Same with Chinese property buyers. Is there any hard data that suggests that they are affecting the price any more than say, the Italian or Greek immigration pushes in the 50s?
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I sold my dad's house to Chinese people for $50k above reserve they're great
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I for one, love China
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teacup posted:I think we can criticise Chinese government interference / the Chinese government encouraging their citizens to take pro Chinese government views on controversial issues which are often profoundly anti democratic without being racist. It’s a legitimate issue in certain places like universities that now a university or business can’t even mention say, Taiwan without risking blowback from Chinese interests. nobody is saying that Chinese people are inherently rude you idiot, just rich people
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Rich people are bad hth E: 
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Sep 12, 2019 00:45
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teacup posted:I think we can criticise Chinese government interference / the Chinese government encouraging their citizens to take pro Chinese government views on controversial issues which are often profoundly anti democratic without being racist. It’s a legitimate issue in certain places like universities that now a university or business can’t even mention say, Taiwan without risking blowback from Chinese interests. Finally some quality auspol where someone who can't read tries to be woker than thou.
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lmao as if Australia somehow hasn't always been incredibly racist my family was still being called krauts and huns all the way until the 60's, despite the fact basically everyone who could serve in the military did.
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Recoome posted:lmao as if Australia somehow hasn't always been incredibly racist Pretty terrible that they were still being called that a distant 15 years after Nazis conquered Europe
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JBP posted:Pretty terrible that they were still being called that a distant 15 years after Nazis conquered Europe Just autoban, dude. Don't make the mods do the job for you.
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Australia is incredibly racist, and we should try to be less racist. I think it's getting better slowly, it's not as socially acceptable to be bluntly racist any more. Show me another country that isn't racist, I can't think of any shining examples we can try and emulate.
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starkebn posted:I think it's getting better slowly, it's not as socially acceptable to be bluntly racist any more.
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starkebn posted:Australia is incredibly racist, and we should try to be less racist. I think it's getting better slowly, it's not as socially acceptable to be bluntly racist any more. Most places are terrible and nothing has changed all that much since say the 60s as far as I can tell. If anything there are pockets that have become way worse post the early 2000s with globalisation hitting full steam and the destruction of barriers to going very online. E: like my smurf Facebook account still manages to feed me political content despite never using it for anything that isn't nerd feeds and the level of racist vitriol and poo poo that's within the rules is disgusting. It's a poisonous environment Starshark posted:Just autoban, dude. Don't make the mods do the job for you. Are you shocked and amazed that Australians were othering the poo poo out people while living in the 60s and with a post war mindset lol? JBP fucked around with this message at 02:49 on Sep 12, 2019 |
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Starshark posted:Just autoban, dude. Don't make the mods do the job for you. no, no, you mean autobahn
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starkebn posted:Australia is incredibly racist, and we should try to be less racist. I think it's getting better slowly, it's not as socially acceptable to be bluntly racist any more.
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No one in this thread has been racist. Beijing influences is a geopolitical topic. It is under debate on campuses and parliaments nationwide. I am not probating anyone.
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