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An incredibly practical lance, with attachments that stab your own horse in the head.
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Sep 12, 2019 00:11
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Jabor posted:An incredibly practical lance, with attachments that stab your own horse in the head. my favorite part is the idea that the way to make it hit harder is to distribute the force of impact over 4 points instead of 1
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Sep 12, 2019 00:26
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brb crossposting to the budk catalog thread
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Sep 12, 2019 00:27
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I’m still baffled that R&D thought Arthurian knights was a bigger draw than fairy tales. The fact that most of the fairy tale stuff are draft commons while knights fill the legendary rare creature slots is dumb as heck.
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Sep 12, 2019 00:32
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Less knights more faeries and elves and stuff please
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Sep 12, 2019 00:35
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Owlbear Camus posted:You know, I could poo poo on that flavor text but I'd rather they feel free to tee off and occasionally trip over their dick into sub dad joke level humor than feel like they gotta play it straight. They already did this flavor text on Onslaught. I'm 100% on board with reusing bad jokes.
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Sep 12, 2019 00:41
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whydirt posted:I’m still baffled that R&D thought Arthurian knights was a bigger draw than fairy tales. The fact that most of the fairy tale stuff are draft commons while knights fill the legendary rare creature slots is dumb as heck. This part from MaRo's Making Magic article about Eldriane was hilarious: "This concern was well illustrated by an interaction I would have many months later. We often like to invite other people to our design playtests so that we can get fresh perspectives on the set. After one playtester had playtested the set for the first time, I went up to him to get feedback. I asked him what he thought of the set. He gushed about all the fairy-tale elements. I asked what he thought about the Camelot part of the set. He said he hadn't noticed any. I then looked at his deck. He was playing Knight tribal. About three quarters of his deck was the "Camelot part of the set," but it didn't stand out to him because it's just the kind of thing Magic does all the time. Given, he was playing with playtest cards, so there was no art or flavor text to help spell out that part of the world, but the interaction was very telling." I bet when he does his next year in review he'll be talking about how they leaned too hard on the Arthurian stuff nobody found very exciting, though obviously he's biased since he's the one who wanted the fairytale set in the first place.
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Sep 12, 2019 01:08
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Into the Story. 5UU instant Draw 4. Costs 3 less if an opponent has 7+ cards in their graveyard.
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Sep 12, 2019 01:12
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The thing that shocks me the most right now is the lack of Monty Python references. Good restraint I guess.
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Sep 12, 2019 01:14
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suicidesteve posted:Into the Story. Not even a rare, it's an uncommon, so Peasant cube people will be happy. also that's a stone-cold bomb on a lot of draft formats.
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Sep 12, 2019 01:17
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The Human Crouton posted:R for a hasted first-striker. Surely those other two abilities must contain some sort of drawback. The card has the potential to do powerful things for 1 mana, but the fact that it doesn't do anything without support is a very serious drawback. Good decks want to be made of cards that are individually strong in addition to having synergy with the rest of their game plan and are leery of cards that require payoffs to contribute.
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Sep 12, 2019 01:18
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Blooming Brilliant posted:The thing that shocks me the most right now is the lack of Monty Python references. Good restraint I guess. Need a pongify-like that turns a creature into a 0/1 Newt for a couple turns.
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Sep 12, 2019 01:19
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:i think the idea is you go turn 1 [whatever], turn 2 stoneforge, turn 3 activate stoneforge for a sword, play this guy, equip the sword for free, and swing idk man that seems extremely underwhelming and fragile for modern
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Sep 12, 2019 01:22
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My prediction is that card will do stone cold nothing in Standard for 21 months, then M22 will print some absurd equipment and make it the centerpiece of a really strong Knight tribal deck for 3 months.
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Sep 12, 2019 01:31
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Personally, I rather like the Knights as a design element for the set. The Camelot thing is happening because most people don’t know the Arthurian tales in any real detail. Admittedly I’m still hoping for a card themed around the Green Knight and his take turns decapitating each other competition.
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Sep 12, 2019 01:34
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AlphaKeny1 posted:idk man that seems extremely underwhelming and fragile for modern yeah I don’t think it’s good, I just think if it has a place, that’s it Hellsau posted:Not even a rare, it's an uncommon, so Peasant cube people will be happy. the gently caress
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Sep 12, 2019 01:41
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I mean Colossus Hammer is in M20 just begging for someone to break it via reduced equip cost
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Sep 12, 2019 01:42
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:I mean Colossus Hammer is in M20 just begging for someone to break it via reduced equip cost It already has been? There are infect decks and some wonky double striker decks floating out there.
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Sep 12, 2019 01:46
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Lord_Magmar posted:Personally, I rather like the Knights as a design element for the set. The Camelot thing is happening because most people don’t know the Arthurian tales in any real detail. I don't hate that there's a knights theme in the set, it's just weird that the marketing seems to focus so heavily on the fairytale aspect while design seems to have been scared of it.
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Sep 12, 2019 01:51
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Sinteres posted:I don't hate that there's a knights theme in the set, it's just weird that the marketing seems to focus so heavily on the fairytale aspect while design seems to have been scared of it. It makes sense for them to be gunshy because if it's successful they'll just plan to come back to it in 2 years and have a whole bunch more designs they can use immediately.
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Sep 12, 2019 01:53
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Kalli posted:It makes sense for them to be gunshy because if it's successful they'll just plan to come back to it in 2 years and have a whole bunch more designs they can use immediately. I've been wondering about that. It seems like it might be hard to come back after they already blew their load with all the most recognizable characters from fairytales, but I guess they could revisit some of the same characters by upgrading some of them to legendary status. Have we seen anything with three pigs yet?
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Sep 12, 2019 01:59
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:I mean Colossus Hammer is in M20 just begging for someone to break it via reduced equip cost The equip cost is high enough that you can't feasibly cheat it down low enough to be playable, and if you're putting that much work into generating mana or doing things analogous to generating mana then you can get much better payoffs for that level of effort. The Hammer gets used with effects that allow you to skip the equip cost entirely, at which point a good draw has you killing people on turn 2.
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Sep 12, 2019 02:04
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Sinteres posted:I've been wondering about that. It seems like it might be hard to come back after they already blew their load with all the most recognizable characters from fairytales, but I guess they could revisit some of the same characters by upgrading some of them to legendary status. Have we seen anything with three pigs yet? https://www.mtgsalvation.com/cards/throne-of-eldraine/37056-blow-your-house-down
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Sep 12, 2019 02:05
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Sep 12, 2019 02:07
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Sinteres posted:I don't hate that there's a knights theme in the set, it's just weird that the marketing seems to focus so heavily on the fairytale aspect while design seems to have been scared of it. My guess is the last really heavy "fairy tale" set was Arabian Nights, and just in general design is probably scared of going back to really early magic where it wasn't it's own thing but riffing off a lot of other things too often.
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Sep 12, 2019 02:08
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Lord_Magmar posted:My guess is the last really heavy "fairy tale" set was Arabian Nights, and just in general design is probably scared of going back to really early magic where it wasn't it's own thing but riffing off a lot of other things too often. That does match up with what Maro's said about wanting to save legendary status for their own creations rather than the references. If they do revisit Eldraine in the future, maybe they can make more things that "feel like" fairy tales without actually being Disney references to close that gap.
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Sep 12, 2019 02:13
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Voyager I posted:The card has the potential to do powerful things for 1 mana, but the fact that it doesn't do anything without support is a very serious drawback. Good decks want to be made of cards that are individually strong in addition to having synergy with the rest of their game plan and are leery of cards that require payoffs to contribute. It's better than a bunch of the dorky 1-drops that Cavalcade is already playing.
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Sep 12, 2019 02:14
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Tainen posted:Bringing back invitational cards was a mistake Should have printed the card name in amonkhet invocation font
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Sep 12, 2019 02:16
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Kild posted:standard doesn't have great equipment for him atm to take advantage of his 3rd line Too bad Sigiled Sword of Valeron is rotating out.
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Sep 12, 2019 02:26
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Rinkles posted:lol i thought it was a dumb joke by ross not actual indignation I shared the tweet because I thought it was amusing. I don't know how Tom Ross actually felt about it.
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Sep 12, 2019 02:27
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whydirt posted:I’m still baffled that R&D thought Arthurian knights was a bigger draw than fairy tales. The fact that most of the fairy tale stuff are draft commons while knights fill the legendary rare creature slots is dumb as heck. It kind of reminds me of Kamigawa actually, where Wizards created a Japanese mythology set only to later discover everyone just wanted anime land.
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Sep 12, 2019 02:39
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Star Man posted:I shared the tweet because I thought it was amusing. I don't know how Tom Ross actually felt about it. Unless you’re 80, I don’t think crying emoji is the face of righteous indignation
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Sep 12, 2019 02:43
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Fanatic knight and gingerbrute are gonna slot right into cavalcade and it’ll remain a tier two deck that gets a lot of dumb wins that I love very much
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Sep 12, 2019 02:47
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AlternateNu posted:It already has been? There are infect decks and some wonky double striker decks floating out there. I'm talking about in Standard.
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Sep 12, 2019 03:00
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Playing Bolt Bend in a format with cards like Thought Erasure and Chandra's Triumph is annoying as gently caress.
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Sep 12, 2019 03:28
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Anyway, if I was to do a Green Knight card it would probably have indestructible or something and an ability that causes target creature to first deal damage equal to power to the Green Knight, and then the Green Knight deals damage equal to it's power to target creature. Thus your opponent can potentially kill it with a trick, but otherwise you get the usual story of the Green Knight letting his opponent swing first, nearly kill him (only a sliver of skin keeps his head on his body) and then swing back to kill them.
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Sep 12, 2019 03:43
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nrook posted:It kind of reminds me of Kamigawa actually, where Wizards created a Japanese mythology set only to later discover everyone just wanted anime land.
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Lord_Magmar posted:Anyway, if I was to do a Green Knight card it would probably have indestructible or something and an ability that causes target creature to first deal damage equal to power to the Green Knight, and then the Green Knight deals damage equal to it's power to target creature. I'd probably give it flash and indestructible on the turn it ETBs. Flash for the flavor of you're just trying to enjoy your holiday party when this rear end in a top hat comes in and wants to have a cutting off heads contest, and then to add insult to injury he turns out to be a cheater. And/or maybe give him indestructible but "Equipped creatures your opponents control are indestructible." For the garter.
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