Star Citizen: $48,000 is only $334/month for 12 years

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eonwe: Aug 11, 2008; Lipstick Apathy

colonelwest posted:

Yes, just mail $3,000.00 in cash to an address in the Cayman Islands that I will PM you, and you’re in commando!

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Dr. Kyle Farnsworth: Apr 23, 2004; Can't post for 3 hours!

Friends, the Warlord hasn't forgotten us. The checks are coming along with some great new posts. 2 weeks. 90 days tops. How do I know? I was behind the delivery truck today.

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# ? Sep 12, 2019 00:50

Dementropy: Aug 23, 2010

Quavers posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPhC4lQ6UJM&t=40s

# ? Sep 12, 2019 01:10

Beet Wagon: Oct 19, 2015

Dementropy posted:

Star Citizen? We Don't Know Yet.

Kinda seems like they should have gone with loading screens tbh, since they basically have de facto loading screens what with their 20 minute travel times.

# ? Sep 12, 2019 01:16

Slow_Moe: Feb 18, 2013

Beet Wagon posted:

Kinda seems like they should have gone with loading screens tbh, since they basically have de facto loading screens what with their 20 minute travel times.

But loading screens would not be equally fast for everyone... If, say, you had an expensive Intel Optane SSD, you would be able to load faster, and that would be pay2win.

And you can't win Star Citizer.

# ? Sep 12, 2019 01:21

Sabreseven: Feb 27, 2016

Dr. Kyle Farnsworth posted:

Friends, the Warlord hasn't forgotten us. The checks are coming along with some great new posts. 2 weeks. 90 days tops. How do I know? I was behind the delivery truck today.

You can tell that is the official FUD truck because it has a working cargo ramp.

# ? Sep 12, 2019 01:21

Dementropy: Aug 23, 2010

# ? Sep 12, 2019 01:25

skeletors_condom: Jul 21, 2017

Sarsapariller posted:

I didn't save them, they were just screencaps of a file unpack that had a bunch of waypoints and scripts with revealing names.

Meanwhile in other dev shops:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G28MzVADeeI

Ah, I was hoping for a video of leaked build with Crobo singing "Dancing Queen" in the background.

# ? Sep 12, 2019 01:31

Zushio: May 8, 2008

Just want to say, this thread is great. I have only paid a little attention to SC drama in the past, but the full scope is a little staggering.

This reminds me, I bought Interstellar Marines a long rear end time ago in Early Access, and was so in to it I even bought a 4-pack for my friends. I messed around with some of the multiplayer awhile ago but it ran like rear end on my PC, and then promised campaign never materialized outside of a few levels with very basic objectives and weird AI. It was fun and had promise, but everyone hosed off I think. Haven't checked in ages.

What I'm saying is that I wasted $20 bucks on a game that went nowhere, and I still feel like it offered a more complete gaming experience than SC.

# ? Sep 12, 2019 01:43

Zaphod42: Sep 13, 2012; If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Dementropy posted:

Star Citizen? We Don't Know Yet.

Wait, 12GB?!

:lol:

what the gently caress

# ? Sep 12, 2019 01:43

Scruffpuff: Dec 23, 2015; Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

Zushio posted:

Just want to say, this thread is great. I have only paid a little attention to SC drama in the past, but the full scope is a little staggering.

This reminds me, I bought Interstellar Marines a long rear end time ago in Early Access, and was so in to it I even bought a 4-pack for my friends. I messed around with some of the multiplayer awhile ago but it ran like rear end on my PC, and then promised campaign never materialized outside of a few levels with very basic objectives and weird AI. It was fun and had promise, but everyone hosed off I think. Haven't checked in ages.

What I'm saying is that I wasted $20 bucks on a game that went nowhere, and I still feel like it offered a more complete gaming experience than SC.

Star Citizen is making gaming history. Just not in the way backers think.

# ? Sep 12, 2019 01:44

TheGreatEvilKing: Mar 28, 2016

I want to see someone run a private SC server

And give out all the ships for free.

Imagine the Crobbers reaction.

# ? Sep 12, 2019 01:45

Hannibal Rex: Feb 13, 2010

Is Gary Oldman still/back in Squadron 42? I'm not up to date on the last couple of years or so, but the last I heard he got out of the project.

I'm fairly out of the loop of multi-player games other than Vermintide. Are there games that have interesting gameplay with multi-crew vehicles? Manning a turret while the pilot is flying evasive 3d maneuvers sounds miserable, but I'm curious what decent developers have come up with in this regard.

# ? Sep 12, 2019 01:47

Dementropy: Aug 23, 2010

https://twitter.com/890Jump/status/1171948469214429184

# ? Sep 12, 2019 01:50

Zushio: May 8, 2008

TheGreatEvilKing posted:

I want to see someone run a private SC server

And give out all the ships for free.

Imagine the Crobbers reaction.

I was actually wondering about this. Is part of the problem they are trying to find a way to make private servers impossible? It's a long shot, but with the current setup it would be absolutely vital in the long run.

# ? Sep 12, 2019 01:51

Kikas: Oct 30, 2012

Hannibal Rex posted:

Is Gary Oldman still/back in Squadron 42? I'm not up to date on the last couple of years or so, but the last I heard he got out of the project.

I'm fairly out of the loop of multi-player games other than Vermintide. Are there games that have interesting gameplay with multi-crew vehicles? Manning a turret while the pilot is flying evasive 3d maneuvers sounds miserable, but I'm curious what decent developers have come up with in this regard.

is still somewhere in Squadron 42. Where? Noone knows because noone has seen even one bit of that game for years.

Technically Space Engineers has the gameplay you're describing, but you have to build your own vehicles. Also Barotrauma to some extent, but in 2D. But it's all happening on a submarine manned and maintained only by the players.

# ? Sep 12, 2019 01:51

Kikas: Oct 30, 2012

Zushio posted:

I was actually wondering about this. Is part of the problem they are trying to find a way to make private servers impossible? It's a long shot, but with the current setup it would be absolutely vital in the long run.

I mean don't you still download the whole game, sever and client when playing? If someone skilled enough cared enough, we'd have SC Private Servers for a while now.

# ? Sep 12, 2019 01:53

Hav: Dec 11, 2009; Fun Shoe

Zushio posted:

Just want to say, this thread is great. I have only paid a little attention to SC drama in the past, but the full scope is a little staggering.

This reminds me, I bought Interstellar Marines a long rear end time ago in Early Access, and was so in to it I even bought a 4-pack for my friends. I messed around with some of the multiplayer awhile ago but it ran like rear end on my PC, and then promised campaign never materialized outside of a few levels with very basic objectives and weird AI. It was fun and had promise, but everyone hosed off I think. Haven't checked in ages.

What I'm saying is that I wasted $20 bucks on a game that went nowhere, and I still feel like it offered a more complete gaming experience than SC.

I backed it too.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/236370/Interstellar_Marines/ - forever early access, and the pioneers of the Crobbers style.

I was a pre-laptop theft Project Zomboid supporter, too. Its been a rocky road.

# ? Sep 12, 2019 01:55

Zushio: May 8, 2008

I actually am really disappointed in the failure of Interstellar Marines TBH. It was pretty much my dream game from the pitch.

# ? Sep 12, 2019 01:57

Zaphod42: Sep 13, 2012; If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Zushio posted:

I was actually wondering about this. Is part of the problem they are trying to find a way to make private servers impossible? It's a long shot, but with the current setup it would be absolutely vital in the long run.

You literally can't make private servers impossible. You can only make them exceptionally difficult. Building the custom wow server was laborious; but people got it done.

There's nothing CIG can do that other people can't do. (True of all game studios, especially true of this one)

Kikas posted:

I mean don't you still download the whole game, sever and client when playing? If someone skilled enough cared enough, we'd have SC Private Servers for a while now.

No, you don't. They don't have to release the server code and it doesn't have to run locally. Any game serious about hacking will have a thin client and try to keep as much logic server-side as possible.

But, there's nothing preventing you from doing a clean-room implementation of the server to spec. Its a big pain in the rear end to reverse-engineer but it can be done.

E: But it won't happen here because the only people who care about SC are the people paying for it already. There's not enough people who want a private server for SC to get the work done.

Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 02:05 on Sep 12, 2019

# ? Sep 12, 2019 02:01

Scruffpuff: Dec 23, 2015; Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

Hannibal Rex posted:

Is Gary Oldman still/back in Squadron 42? I'm not up to date on the last couple of years or so, but the last I heard he got out of the project.

He was out for a while recovering from the frostbite on his shoulder where Sandi touched him, my understanding was he dipped out pretty early. Rumors at the time stated it was something to do with his search results looking like this:

Scruffpuff fucked around with this message at 02:08 on Sep 12, 2019

# ? Sep 12, 2019 02:05

Beet Wagon: Oct 19, 2015

Dementropy posted:

https://twitter.com/890Jump/status/1171948469214429184

If I had gotten more enjoyment out of Star Citizen than any other game I had ever played, I'd probably quit videogames altogether tbh.

# ? Sep 12, 2019 02:11

Bubbacub: Apr 17, 2001

Sarsapariller posted:

God, they're seriously adding a fourth snub fighter?

What is even the point of these loving things? Fighters that have to be transported by another ship- in a game where you still can't transport fighters in another ship. Brilliant!

Eh, it's probably a way to appease people who are dreaming about functional docking mechanics. If it fits into some kind of special docking socket with a scripted animation, then they can claim to have working hangars.

# ? Sep 12, 2019 02:27

trucutru: Jul 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

Kikas posted:

I mean don't you still download the whole game, sever and client when playing? If someone skilled enough cared enough, we'd have SC Private Servers for a while now.

This seems like a job for *that* Kazan!

# ? Sep 12, 2019 02:41

Jobbo_Fett: Mar 7, 2014; Slava Ukrayini; Clapping Larry

Agony Aunt posted:

Indeed.

Ok, so they claim to be open development and this is part of the marketing surrounding that, letting the backers know how they are changing things, but if they think this is going to improve things they are insane. If they can't handle 3 month release cycles they are not going to handle the much more complex "staggered" 6 month cycles.

Sure, it will give them more time on specific features, they can spend more time in QA (and therefore increase the amount of time on each feature!) but they are going to be walking on glass in relation to their codebase.

Its going to increase the risk of regressions massively unless they separate tasks out between the two development branches very carefully. Imagine if a dev on the "A" branch makes a change to a method that the "B" branch is not aware of until time it comes to merge.

I will forgive the thread this time with regards to your faulty memories and bad opinions about my hairstyle but I must interject.

THEYVE ALREADY ATTEMPTED STAGGERED RELEASE DATES.

It loving flopped and then went back to fully developing on patch. Bonus points if you remember how they initially focused everyone on Star Citizen then switched to Squadron 42 for lile 8 months and then split and then refocused the team AGAIN

# ? Sep 12, 2019 03:05

rePool: Apr 18, 2019; Undercover Goon.

So long and thanks for all the fish

https://twitter.com/Jorunn_SC/status/1170447512454520832

I'm not even sure what to make of this. Why are we lining up a bunch of overpriced ships for yet another screenshot?

Not understanding the purpose aside from it being the only thing these guys can think of doing with a ship that has no role.

# ? Sep 12, 2019 03:20

Scruffpuff: Dec 23, 2015; Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

Remember the Fawlty Towers episode where Basil's wife gets pissed at him and fucks off on the same day he had a party planned for their anniversary? He spends the rest of the episode constructing more and more elaborate lies explaining her absence - that she's very ill, and can't see the guests, but she's totally there and everything is fine, eventually he dressed up Polly as his wife and turns down the lights and tries to pass her off to the guests. One guest gets too close and gets bitten before she can reveal the ruse. Things spiral further and further into the absurd in true series fashion.

Star Citizen is the game development version of that episode.

# ? Sep 12, 2019 03:23

Complications: Jun 19, 2014

rePool posted:

https://twitter.com/Jorunn_SC/status/1170447512454520832

I'm not even sure what to make of this. Why are we lining up a bunch of overpriced ships for yet another screenshot?

Not understanding the purpose aside from it being the only thing these guys can think of doing with a ship that has no role.

It's important to maintaining a healthy cult to have periodic meetings for everybody to reaffirm their life choices.

# ? Sep 12, 2019 03:23

eonwe: Aug 11, 2008; Lipstick Apathy

its pretty cool they got the whole server together for a screenshot

# ? Sep 12, 2019 03:26

Kikas: Oct 30, 2012

rePool posted:

https://twitter.com/Jorunn_SC/status/1170447512454520832

I'm not even sure what to make of this. Why are we lining up a bunch of overpriced ships for yet another screenshot?

Not understanding the purpose aside from it being the only thing these guys can think of doing with a ship that has no role.

If this wasn't space, you could ramp them. But since this is SC, the most fun thing you could do with such a lineup is ram something into it. Maybe there's no firepower in the game to damage it, but surely there's something with enough mass.

# ? Sep 12, 2019 03:42

Zazz Razzamatazz: Apr 19, 2016; by sebmojo

Sarsapariller posted:

* Travel to the "Jump Point" which could be the first hint that they are actually going to try to stand up a second solar system in the game and try to use the single new wormhole as some kind of prop to sell "Exploration" gameplay. It'd basically be like exploring the tram from Ironforge to Stormwind.

This would actually kind of make sense, they said they hit the limit with what they can add to the current system (Hurston?) and couldn't add anything new without removing something... A new system with a loading screen disguised as a jump animation could allow them to add new things.

Then again, last time I ~~played~~ attempted to play, the inital load-in was over 5 minutes... then again, again, they've conditioned the backers to be used to long travel times...

My guess is that it'll be another sand worm. Looking ^{_{kind of}} good but completely fabricated BS.

# ? Sep 12, 2019 03:54

TheDeadlyShoe: Feb 14, 2014

I think the problem is server side? They can't do a new system without xX~SSOCS~Xx because they need to be able to shift you to another server.

# ? Sep 12, 2019 03:57

trucutru: Jul 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

So, like half the post in the r/starcitizen sub are about the newest "caudillo" helmet that has just been released. Like, whoa! so cool.

Also, lol:

Hey! The 890 is the fastest ship. Who could have guesasfas434ejskfldsf

# ? Sep 12, 2019 04:26

Saladin Rising: Nov 12, 2016; When there is no real hope we must
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Beet Wagon posted:

Kinda seems like they should have gone with loading screens tbh, since they basically have de facto loading screens what with their 20 minute travel times.

I will never understand the Citizen's pathological hatred for loading screens. Most games I've played have some form of loading screen and it's like... it's a thing that exists. Who cares? As long as it's not every 5 minutes then it doesn't matter, what matters is how good the game between the loading screens is.

Or poo poo, just do what DBZ Budokai Tenkaichi 3 et al did and put a hilarious button-mashing mini-game in the loading screen. Yeah Vegeta, do those pushups! Yeah Goku, eat those bowls of rice! Yeah Gohan, pull those swords!

Why the gently caress do I remember what all the loading screen mini-games were, I haven't played that game in years. :sweatdrop:

# ? Sep 12, 2019 04:27

Kikas: Oct 30, 2012

Saladin Rising posted:

Or poo poo, just do what DBZ Budokai Tenkaichi 3 et al did and put a hilarious button-mashing mini-game in the loading screen. Yeah Vegeta, do those pushups! Yeah Goku, eat those bowls of rice! Yeah Gohan, pull those swords!

Why the gently caress do I remember what all the loading screen mini-games were, I haven't played that game in years.

Namco Bandai has a patent on loading screen minigames, that's why noone else can do them.

# ? Sep 12, 2019 05:00

Viscous Soda: Apr 24, 2004

rePool posted:

https://twitter.com/Jorunn_SC/status/1170447512454520832

I'm not even sure what to make of this. Why are we lining up a bunch of overpriced ships for yet another screenshot?

Not understanding the purpose aside from it being the only thing these guys can think of doing with a ship that has no role.

So correct me if I'm wrong, but that's a display of a minimum of 11k sunk into Star Citizen there.

# ? Sep 12, 2019 05:00

TheDeadlyShoe: Feb 14, 2014

You could fly the yacht for 'free' on the second degree test server if you paid your fan club dues

# ? Sep 12, 2019 05:01

Agony Aunt: Apr 17, 2018; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

rePool posted:

https://twitter.com/Jorunn_SC/status/1170447512454520832

I'm not even sure what to make of this. Why are we lining up a bunch of overpriced ships for yet another screenshot?

Not understanding the purpose aside from it being the only thing these guys can think of doing with a ship that has no role.

If that is actually in game then i'm pretty amazed. I had assumed the servers would poo poo a brick with so many big ships in the same location.

Wonder what the FPS was like.

# ? Sep 12, 2019 05:11

no_recall: Aug 17, 2015; Lipstick Apathy

Quavers posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPhC4lQ6UJM&t=40s

He talks a lot of poo poo.

# ? Sep 12, 2019 05:13

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Agony Aunt: Apr 17, 2018; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

G0RF posted:

Chris and especially Sandi are in hiding now. It�s not in question.

Sandi has appeared twice in 2019, and on both occasions in bit parts. She used to co-anchor a weekly show AND have her own weekly sketch infotainment like �Sandi goes to Flight School� and �Empire Report� (starring Beck Rossum!) Plus she�d do walk-on appearances on Reverse the Verse sometimes too.

Chris had �10 for the Chairman� and all his other appearances. He�d do Wing Commander Q&As with Ben. He�d do �meet the developer� sit downs and show those golden fingertips through which godcode flowed...

Those days are long gone. Chris may show up once a quarter for a show. He puts in the absolute bare minimum time he has to to keep fans from assuming he�s flown to his own non-extradition island escape. But ever since they talked Calder into writing that nearly $50 million check for Squadron marketing, they�ve all but vanished.

This is good for Star Citizen.

Chris is too busy though, he's busy coding SSOCS late into the night. This was confirmed by people who talked to him at the exclusive dinner thingy.

# ? Sep 12, 2019 05:19

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