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Platystemon posted:Bzzzt Alright, I guess I'm in the barrel this evening then
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Ugato posted:I just have to say I feel like CircumCrippled is not getting the attention it deserves here they're a gentle soul
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# ? Sep 12, 2019 16:08 |
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Here's my hot take: most of what Mel Brooks did is still acceptable and doable today. The people who think we're too prudish for Blazing Saddles think the punchline was "the n word" and not "white racists are buffoons." Tastes have become more realist and subdued so the pacing and flat absurdity aren't likely to sell as well but that's a very different thing. Ghost Leviathan posted:Was an article somewhere that 'cancelled' was originally something in minority spaces to shut out predators and bad faith actors but has pretty much been completely destroyed by the internet and, like everything else under capitalism, perverted into yet another tool most useful for well-off white people to feed their narcissism and eliminate competition through reframing targeting the vulnerable in a way that can't be called 'punching down' while they themselves can easily shrug it off. I'm not online enough to really speak with authority on the history, but the last part seems like a pretty accurate description of the present state.
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# ? Sep 12, 2019 16:19 |
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"calling out predators is cultural appropraition" is a pretty hot take but i cant actually remember a specific time when a powerful person called out a not powerful one for sexual assault and destroyed their career that way
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Al! posted:"calling out predators is cultural appropraition" is a pretty hot take but i cant actually remember a specific time when a powerful person called out a powerful one for sexual assault and destroyed their career that way Kirsten Gillebrand and Al Franken? And that's basically ended both careers as succdems are still pissed about it.
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# ? Sep 12, 2019 16:43 |
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those are two of the most powerful people in the country
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# ? Sep 12, 2019 16:45 |
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oh i see i was missing a "not" there
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# ? Sep 12, 2019 16:45 |
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What Seinfeld is afraid of is everyone realizing he was never funny, and he only got popular because the late 80s & 90s were a cultural death rattle.
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# ? Sep 12, 2019 17:37 |
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Larry David is funny
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# ? Sep 12, 2019 17:41 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:What Seinfeld is afraid of is everyone realizing he was never funny, and he only got popular because the late 80s & 90s were a cultural death rattle. Bingo. The initial thing that made him go off on college kids was when a joke of his failed where he was mocking the effeminate gay man stereotype and it went over like a lead balloon and so he quickly pivoted to "sensitive college kids!" rather than consider for a moment that acting like a sissy poof isn't the easy ticket to laughs that it was back in his heyday.
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# ? Sep 12, 2019 17:41 |
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His observational comedy was loving dire. drat dude, you're right. Dads do go crazy over the thermostat. And how about that airplane food.
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# ? Sep 12, 2019 17:44 |
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What's the DEAL with observational humor?
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# ? Sep 12, 2019 17:45 |
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Tulip posted:Here's my hot take: most of what Mel Brooks did is still acceptable and doable today. The people who think we're too prudish for Blazing Saddles think the punchline was "the n word" and not "white racists are buffoons." FWIW the first result when I googled "blazing saddles problematic" was a medium post basically making this exact point so I think it's place in the canon is pretty well-secured for now. I think the scene where he takes himself hostage really hammers the joke home also I love that scene
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# ? Sep 12, 2019 17:49 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:His observational comedy was loving dire. drat dude, you're right. Dads do go crazy over the thermostat. And how about that airplane food. yeah I used to like the show when I was a kid so I went with my dad to one of his shows and even my dad was like why did we like this guy again? and the answer is basically Jonathan Fisk posted:Larry David is funny
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# ? Sep 12, 2019 17:55 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:What Seinfeld is afraid of is everyone realizing he was never funny, and he only got popular because the late 80s & 90s were a cultural death rattle. could i BE any more sarcastic
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Ugato posted:I just have to say I feel like CircumCrippled is not getting the attention it deserves here Anti-circumcision people have this amazing combination of being (a) pretty obviously right and (b) so loving weird that I'm tempted to think they're wrong anyway.
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# ? Sep 12, 2019 18:19 |
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https://twitter.com/libcomorg/status/981520015018156033
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https://twitter.com/libcomorg/status/981533321606856704?s=20
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The Little Kielbasa posted:Anti-circumcision people have this amazing combination of being (a) pretty obviously right and (b) so loving weird that I'm tempted to think they're wrong anyway. They aren't even funny, just sad, really.
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# ? Sep 12, 2019 18:27 |
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if saying offensive things instead of not funny things was the thing people objected to, how do you explain jeselnik
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# ? Sep 12, 2019 18:54 |
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found out that the director of that movie is Jewish so that's an extra layer of lol for comedy, all you need is set-up, punchline, repeat. but so much mainstream stuff is either Nanette-style preachiness or Joe Rogan-style "lol triggered little Ghost Leviathan posted:Was an article somewhere that 'cancelled' was originally something in minority spaces to shut out predators and bad faith actors but has pretty much been completely destroyed by the internet and, like everything else under capitalism, perverted into yet another tool most useful for well-off white people to feed their narcissism and eliminate competition through reframing targeting the vulnerable in a way that can't be called 'punching down' while they themselves can easily shrug it off.
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# ? Sep 12, 2019 19:26 |
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all I can think of is a Planescape: Torment mod where someone has the entirety of Bee Movie tattooed across their body as some sort of penance for comedy never performed
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Victory Position posted:all I can think of is a Planescape: Torment mod where someone has the entirety of Bee Movie tattooed across their body as some sort of penance for comedy never performed
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Victory Position posted:all I can think of is a Planescape: Torment mod where someone has the entirety of Bee Movie tattooed across their body as some sort of penance for comedy never performed And what's the deal with changing the nature of a man?
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# ? Sep 12, 2019 19:33 |
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Victory Position posted:all I can think of is a Planescape: Torment mod where someone has the entirety of Bee Movie tattooed across their body as some sort of penance for comedy never performed The howling winds of pandemonium, if you listen to them, are whispering the script of Bee Movie
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Victory Position posted:all I can think of is a Planescape: Torment mod where someone has the entirety of Bee Movie tattooed across their body as some sort of penance for comedy never performed
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# ? Sep 12, 2019 23:07 |
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Not sure why you would decide not to explain the funny shirt.
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# ? Sep 13, 2019 01:18 |
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lol who wants to pick their own insurance plan edit: poo poo not the debate thread. just pretend this is a response to the inevitable hot takes about Medicare for All
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# ? Sep 13, 2019 01:29 |
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Atrocious Joe posted:lol who wants to pick their own insurance plan upper middle class dickheads who want to look down on leeches and welfare queens
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I love how privilege is now regularly used as excuse to justify horrendous regressive actions. Some guy at the MIT Media Lab wrote a Medium post about resigning from his position there due to it being funded by Jeffrey Epstein, and included an addendum about how people with less privilege are justified in staying at the lab funded by rich pedophiles. Because leaving might endanger their career opportunities. Which isn't completely wrong, but is also just completely morally bankrupt. quote:*** A friend pointed out that I was able to choose to step away from the Media Lab because of my privilege: I’ve got money in the bank, I’ve got a supportive partner, I am at a stage of my career where I can reasonably believe I’ll find another high prestige job, I’m a cis-gendered straight white dude. She wanted me to be clearer about the fact that not everyone is going to be able to make the same decision I did.
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# ? Sep 13, 2019 03:29 |
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get that OUT of my face posted:you just know that when Mel Brooks dies, an infantry corps of checkmark scolds are going to call him out for the out-of-context "up yours" scene in Blazing Saddles and his entire career of joking about Nazis. the state of comedy is so, so, so bad right now https://twitter.com/Shanemgillis/status/1172340437752807424?s=20
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https://twitter.com/BriscoeCain/status/1172339197690052610
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https://twitter.com/zei_nabq/status/1172348786158518272?s=20 https://twitter.com/bendreyfuss/status/1172347273780633600?s=20
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# ? Sep 13, 2019 04:18 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:His observational comedy was loving dire. drat dude, you're right. Dads do go crazy over the thermostat. And how about that airplane food. For ages I didn't get Seinfeld, until I watched one of the stand-up sessions and I thought 'Oh, this guy is supposed to be a terrible comedian! Oh, they're all terrible people!' and then I got it. And now it turns out he was actually supposed to be funny in the show?
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# ? Sep 13, 2019 09:39 |
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do the takes need to be from twitter?quote:Money is just a medium of exchange. A capitalistic country with only money and no production will not ever exist. In a capitalistic system, the sweat of your labor or business is tokenized, these tokens you can use to buy stuff. The more tokens you have, the more you can acquire goods and services and the more you are taxed. The tokens therefore kinda act like free-flowing proof of everyone's labor and business.
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# ? Sep 13, 2019 09:50 |
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Samovar posted:For ages I didn't get Seinfeld, until I watched one of the stand-up sessions and I thought 'Oh, this guy is supposed to be a terrible comedian! Oh, they're all terrible people!' and then I got it. Knowing Seinfeld is actually a hack comedian only makes the show better in retrospect.
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# ? Sep 13, 2019 09:54 |
quote:The real problem with our time's capitalism right now is oligarchy. Oligarchs influence governments around the world to hinder the growth of those protections. And as I personally see it, there's a 50/50 chance it may become worse, or less severe in the next 100 years.
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# ? Sep 13, 2019 10:37 |
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The other 50 is for things staying the same. Can't be too prudent in your predictions.
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gradenko_2000 posted:do the takes need to be from twitter?
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