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A Moose posted:oh cool its an enchantment that red can destroy https://twitter.com/maro254/status/1172199904401227776 Can someone help me understand what the "flavor" of this card is exactly?
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Magic Underwear posted:Really blurring the line between enchantment and colored artifact. Flavor.
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Sep 12, 2019 21:20
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Sickening posted:https://twitter.com/maro254/status/1172199904401227776 It’s literally the glass casket that Snow White was put into while she slept
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Sep 12, 2019 21:21
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It is also apparently a comfy place for what looks like a fox to curl up and sleep. Judging by the art.
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Sep 12, 2019 21:24
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Sampatrick posted:this is a bizarre approach to magic that i do not subscribe to It's simple, if they deal with this and then you slam down Nissa, Who Shakes the World or God-Eternal Rhonas or something, they got rid of a 4/4 instead of the much more dangerous thing one mana later.
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Sep 12, 2019 21:25
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They're going to be internally debating enchantments vs. artifacts with color for a long time and we're going to see weird things like this until a decision is made. Since the reaction to colored non-vehicle, non-equipment, non-creature artifacts has been pretty negative, I kind of expect they'll start going back to colorless artifacts without subtypes for things that only have activated or static abilities within the next year, two tops.
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I actually think flavor is 100 percent a fine answer for why that card is an artifact. Like if you accept that flavor can be the reason, then there’s literally no issue
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Sep 12, 2019 21:28
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it is kind of funny that you can animate the coffin and have it go stomping over to your opponent and punch them in the face. Little blue fairy waves her magic wand at it and it gets a giant pair of muscular arms coming out of it and 4 +1/+1 counters but yeah, they should probably cool it on the colored artifacts when it doesn't really matter. alternatively, they can step up the artifact hate and put that in every color, and make enchantments harder to kill, and use that to differentiate them. If they continue with that philosophy, it also reduces the chance that they make another broken artifact set! A Moose fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Sep 12, 2019 |
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Sep 12, 2019 21:30
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Sickening posted:https://twitter.com/maro254/status/1172199904401227776 It's the glass casket the freedom fighters put Princess Sally in after she died. 
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Sep 12, 2019 21:33
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Sickening posted:Can someone help me understand what the "flavor" of this card is exactly? Judging by the color I'd say vanilla.
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Sep 12, 2019 21:33
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whydirt posted:It’s literally the glass casket that Snow White was put into while she slept But Emmara Tandris is cmc 7
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Sep 12, 2019 21:40
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What I don't understand is why artifacts and enchantments need to be more mechanically different than "some things effect one thing and not the other"
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Sep 12, 2019 21:44
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TheKingofSprings posted:Correction, an artifact Journey to Nowhere! Right, a bad journey to nowhere. Keep in mind that journey can exile any creature. And this is an artifact and therefore easier to remove. Flavor.
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Sep 12, 2019 21:45
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WotC is going to gently caress up and print an artifact with etb destroy target enchantment and ruin Modern
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Sep 12, 2019 21:47
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:It's the glass casket the freedom fighters put Princess Sally in after she died. Don't worry, few years later that comic series followed. 
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Sep 12, 2019 21:47
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Sep 12, 2019 21:51
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AlternateNu posted:It’s a turtle hydra. Not the first one. All hydras might be turtles on this plane.
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Sep 12, 2019 21:56
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Rinkles posted:Not the first one. gently caress the Brawl decks.  Framboise posted:Right, a bad journey to nowhere. 
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Sep 12, 2019 22:08
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Sampatrick posted:WotC is going to gently caress up and print an artifact with etb destroy target enchantment and ruin Modern Why would that ruin modern?
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Sep 12, 2019 22:19
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dragon enthusiast posted:artifact  Though it is literally mercurial.I'm actually quite alright with this being an enchantment because they're enchanted silks the orc can't just tear through willy nilly. rkajdi posted:Why would that ruin modern? Edit: Correct. v v v Tubgoat fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Sep 12, 2019 |
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Sep 12, 2019 22:19
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rkajdi posted:Why would that ruin modern? I'm guessing they mean by giving Affinity an answer to Stony Silence? Or is it something else?
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Sep 12, 2019 22:21
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Tubgoat posted:Because then Mox Opal would get banned, followed by whatever takes over in the wake of the bannings stemming from that. Since looting is already gone, I don't see why the other problem enablers (ancient stirrings and mox opal mainly) should still be legal. If people really want "fair" magic, all the gimmick quick game stuff should be gone. I don't think modern would be fun as the collection of midrange piles that would result, but if we're going to ban one quick enabler, all of them should go.
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Sep 12, 2019 22:28
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AlternateNu posted:gently caress the Brawl decks. Hey look, a better Glass Casket and worse Journey to Nowhere. 
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Sep 12, 2019 22:30
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Framboise posted:Hey look, a better Glass Casket and worse Journey to Nowhere. Karn can't grab silkwrap out of your sideboard and put it to work punching the opponent to death. 
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Sep 12, 2019 22:33
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rkajdi posted:Since looting is already gone, I don't see why the other problem enablers (ancient stirrings and mox opal mainly) should still be legal. If people really want "fair" magic, all the gimmick quick game stuff should be gone. I don't think modern would be fun as the collection of midrange piles that would result, but if we're going to ban one quick enabler, all of them should go. Opal isn't the unfun part, it's Lantern.
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Sep 12, 2019 22:33
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Framboise posted:Hey look, a better Glass Casket and worse Journey to Nowhere. Did you know that: artifact synergies are much, much stronger than enchantment synergies
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Sep 12, 2019 22:33
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rkajdi posted:Since looting is already gone, I don't see why the other problem enablers (ancient stirrings and mox opal mainly) should still be legal. If people really want "fair" magic, all the gimmick quick game stuff should be gone. I don't think modern would be fun as the collection of midrange piles that would result, but if we're going to ban one quick enabler, all of them should go. Looting probably should not have been banned (yet)
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Sep 12, 2019 22:33
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TheKingofSprings posted:Did you know that: artifact synergies are much, much stronger than enchantment synergies just wait til theros 2
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Sep 12, 2019 22:35
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TheKingofSprings posted:Did you know that: artifact synergies are much, much stronger than enchantment synergies I agree. Take Serra's Sanctum off the reserve list and print it into standard.
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Sep 12, 2019 22:36
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AlternateNu posted:I agree. Take Serra's Sanctum off the reserve list and print it into standard.
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Sep 12, 2019 22:37
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AlternateNu posted:I agree. Take Serra's Sanctum off the reserve list and print it into standard. They made Tolarian Academy a creature that also makes a token that partially buys back it’s cost and can also Mind’s Desire so heck, why not
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Sep 12, 2019 22:37
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Lone Goat posted:just wait til theros 2 I just realized, if they bring back Devotion in Theros 2 these 4 CMC hybrid creatures could see play.
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Sep 12, 2019 22:38
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Tubgoat posted:Unironically. Cradle too. TheKingofSprings posted:They made Tolarian Academy a creature that also makes a token that partially buys back it’s cost and can also Mind’s Desire so heck, why not I'm still kind of torqued they made flip versions of Academy and Cradle in Ixalan but not a Sanctum.
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to be fair there's not really anything magical about the glass coffin itself, an awake orc would probably go wtf are you doing and punch through it
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Sep 12, 2019 22:48
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Ancient Stirrings is whatever actually, just a stupid cantrip. Mox Opal is a different story, but even with those banned, the most powerful fair cards like jace, sfm, wrenn6 and bloodbraid and a bunch of teferis just dominate the format. Without any cards like those, midrange piles and uw would just dominate the format. Good luck playing wild nacatl and freinds then.
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Sep 12, 2019 22:50
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Sep 12, 2019 22:50
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dragon enthusiast posted:to be fair there's not really anything magical about the glass coffin itself, an awake orc would probably go wtf are you doing and punch through it The magic is the knockout gas inside.
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Sep 12, 2019 22:53
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dragon enthusiast posted:to be fair there's not really anything magical about the glass coffin itself, an awake orc would probably go wtf are you doing and punch through it Or it could stay put and snuggle the fox. CMC four or more and you’ve got better things to do.
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Is this the first Monty Python reference? Proud of wizards for the restraint.
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