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Guavanaut posted:A chemist once told me that as long as you drink enough methylated spirits, the 85% ethanol will competitively saturate the alcohol dehydrogenase enzyme in the liver, preventing the 10% methanol from being converted to formaldehyde, so you'll get a lovely headache but won't go blind. I've actually told this story before it it bears repeating that many moons ago a Polish friend of the family brought back some "Polish vodka" for my dad, which is just methanol you're meant to put into a strong level of normal vodka for an extra kick. My dad... did not bother to finish the bottle.
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^^^I was wondering if it might come across as racist that I mentioned the nationality of the distillers, thanks for explaining why it's relevantGuavanaut posted:A chemist once told me that as long as you drink enough methylated spirits, the 85% ethanol will competitively saturate the alcohol dehydrogenase enzyme in the liver, preventing the 10% methanol from being converted to formaldehyde, so you'll get a lovely headache but won't go blind.
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Guavanaut posted:A chemist once told me that as long as you drink enough methylated spirits, the 85% ethanol will competitively saturate the alcohol dehydrogenase enzyme in the liver, preventing the 10% methanol from being converted to formaldehyde, so you'll get a lovely headache but won't go blind. One common treatment for methanol poisoning is administering a whole lot of ethanol, so it sounds plausible.
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I could actually do with some low abv beers for a house party this weekend, what's the UKMT recommendation?
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Sep 13, 2019 11:51
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I learned that in med school S02E01 when House makes LL Cool J drink to cure his methanol poisoning.
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:I could actually do with some low abv beers for a house party this weekend, what's the UKMT recommendation? It's fine, pretty much tastes like any brand name French bottled lager except that you can have a few & drive home since an entire pack is like 2 pints across the whole evening.
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HJB posted:Alcohol-free alcohol is good  Borrovan posted:A medic told me the same exact thing, apparently fucktons of regular alcohol is an effective treatment for methanol poisoning. For context, we were hammering down a bunch of "whisky" that some Polish lads in Southampton made in their garage at the time, so he must have been confident. Almost all methanol poisoning from distilled spirits is due to black marketeers thinking that they can get away with cutting the finished product with a few percent of methanol and pick a few percent too many. But yeah, drinking a fuckton of ethanol is an effective antidote to methanol poisoning (also brexits).
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Rarity posted:Fragile masculinity isn't inept manly behaviour though. Fragile masculinity is when men either do things they don't want to or do things that are really silly out of a desire to come across as more masculine. They're examples of how the patriarchy hurts men as well as women. There's some great articles on it by The Good Men Project which is a site I massively recommend. I mean yeah fair enough, but the example given was it being funny men were drinking non-alcoholic beer that had bottles made in a similar "macho" style as normal beer bottles. Which I don't think is really hurting anyone, and is clearly something the men in question want to do. e: Or to put it another way it seems like the silliness sometimes comes from the perceived lack of manliness in the first place. Hardly makes a difference if the beer is alcoholic or not, aside from that it's somehow okay to have a punkish manly bottle for your alcoholic one but it's silly to want to the same bottle for your weakass pansy non-alcoholic one. Private Speech fucked around with this message at 12:02 on Sep 13, 2019 |
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Mrenda posted:I think for some people it's that it's a non-sweet alcohol free drink. Most of the alcohol free stuff is either plain water, or sweet stuff, whether it's fruit juices, water with fruit, or soft drinks. Exactly this, tonic water can be good because the quinine gives it a nice bitter taste, but it can still be quite sweet sometimes. Pressure Drop, Big Drop Citra IPA is a very nice 0.5% beer, probably the best low alcohol one I've tried so far.
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Mrenda posted:I think for some people it's that it's a non-sweet alcohol free drink. Most of the alcohol free stuff is either plain water, or sweet stuff, whether it's fruit juices, water with fruit, or soft drinks. That's different, if you're drinking it cause you like it then that's not putting on a front for the lads or anything.
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:I could actually do with some low abv beers for a house party this weekend, what's the UKMT recommendation? The absolute best low abv beer is Kernel Brewery table beer. Usually clocks in around 3%
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Who drinks beer out of a poncy bottle in a pub anyway?
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Who drinks beer out of a poncy bottle in a pub anyway? Even if I buy a bottle of beer I usually ask for a glass to pour it into because I find drinking from a bottle awkward.
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Sep 13, 2019 12:07
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I only drink beer from the most performatively masculine vessel when I'm with other men. A giant hollow glass phallus.
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The problem is that unless explicitly told otherwise by the people peddling their quackery (and sometimes even then), people will drop both chemo- and radiation-therapy if they can just "do these simple steps" because those simple steps won't have the same side-effects as chemo- and radiation-therapy have. Despite the fact that I felt like I got off easy by only having to deal with incredible amounts of tiredness (which unfortunately has become chronic) and tinitus from chemo- and radiation-therapy, I met several people who were considering going with alternative solutions instead of continuing to receive therapies because they were feeling the side-effects more than me, despite being told that the alternatives they were thinking of were complementary. VideoGames posted:It is probably completely obvious in every way, but Pink is my favourite colour. If I had the money for it, I'd have several purple suits to wear for special occasions. Ebola Dog posted:Alcohol free (or low alcohol, 0.5%) beer is nice at lunchtime or if I want something to drink that's not sweet or plain water. Many soft drinks are either full of sugar or sweetener and I don't always want a sweet drink. I don't want to drink alcohol free beer for the sake of drinking beer but because I like the taste (as long as it is a nice tasting one that is!) but don't always want the alcohol. Also if anyone could help me, I've been trying to piece this together, but I'm still not entirely sure. Does 'melt' mean someone whose brain has melted? That's as close as I've come to a definition when it's used here.
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Beer is called "beer" because "piss" was already taken.
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Rarity posted:This is an interesting response cause me and my friends had been talking about how this is an example of fragile masculinity. Why do you need to front that you're getting boozed up when you're not and why does drinking soft drinks make you look like "a fanny"? I mean I was just pointing out that this is (certainly was) a phenomenon. I don't know the answer to your question because that isn't me. Jesus Christ I'm going to stop posting here for a while, bye.
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Guavanaut posted:I only drink beer from the most performatively masculine vessel when I'm with other men. A giant hollow glass phallus. There is absolutely some oval office out there who drinks from a glass vagina to prove he's not gay.
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D. Ebdrup posted:Does 'melt' mean someone whose brain has melted? That's as close as I've come to a definition when it's used here. Tesseraction posted:There is absolutely some oval office out there who drinks from a glass vagina to prove he's not gay. 
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Guavanaut posted:I only drink beer from the most performatively masculine vessel when I'm with other men. A giant hollow glass phallus.
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Not sure perfomative masculinity means much if you hide in your ma's basement 24/7.
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crispix posted:I mean I was just pointing out that this is (certainly was) a phenomenon. I don't know the answer to your question because that isn't me.
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Tesseraction posted:Not sure perfomative masculinity means much if you hide in your ma's basement 24/7.
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Tesseraction posted:Not sure perfomative masculinity means much if you hide in your ma's basement 24/7. This will never not be funny
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https://twitter.com/jelly_pack/status/1172463454671835137?s=20 https://twitter.com/How_Upsetting/status/1172470235947048960?s=20
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Sep 13, 2019 12:28
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Ah the lowest level of non-apology (below even "sorry if you chose to be offended"): the "we obviously need to get better at explaining how you're wrong and we're right"
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Sep 13, 2019 12:30
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Bobstar posted:I learned that in med school S02E01 when House makes LL Cool J drink to cure his methanol poisoning. metoo
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Anyone been to a jobs fare? I went to one yesterday did a circuit of the room and picked up some leaflets for jobs but not sure if that's what you generally do at these things.
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bessantj posted:Anyone been to a jobs fare? I went to one yesterday did a circuit of the room and picked up some leaflets for jobs but not sure if that's what you generally do at these things. I always pick the leaflets up when I go sign on so it looks like I give a poo poo, but I've never been to one.
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I won three jobs at the hook-a-duck. Depends on the fair, some of them are just excuses for companies to give away pens and promotional material and others you can actually chat to the people there if there's something that catches your eye and find out whether you'd get on well with it before applying.
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bessantj posted:Anyone been to a jobs fare? I went to one yesterday did a circuit of the room and picked up some leaflets for jobs but not sure if that's what you generally do at these things.
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One recruitment secret that doctors hate telling you is that attitude makes a heap of difference. When in doubt, talk to the people at a job fair and look interested. Like, you wouldn't believe how many people apply for jobs and then turn out to not even seem that interested when you call them for interviews. I'd rather have a team member that gels with the group and can adopt than someone who has the perfect educational background. If it turns out you're unqualified for the job, talk to them about what would be required for you to be qualified. Sometimes there are relatively short job training courses available. Just having talked to the recruiter can be helpful if you're not ace at writing a resume etc., they might put you in their "special pile" if you hit it off. But they won't do it if you just walk through in silence and take a pen and some candies. Worst case scenario you'll pick up a lot of surface level information about different trades and industries.
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Rarity posted:That's different, if you're drinking it cause you like it then that's not putting on a front for the lads or anything. Apologies. I quoted you continuing the thread, when really the "some people actually like a/f beer" was addressing the point about non-alcoholic beers existing only to save face.
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I lived in Spain for a while, and I miss that no-alcohol beer is dirt cheap over there, while here it costs nearly as much as the full gets-you-pissed stuff. No-alcohol San Miguel was something ridiculous like 38 cents per can, while Heineken 0.0s or Brewdogs here are getting on for a quid, or more.
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https://twitter.com/jelly_pack/status/1172474776125943809 "studied the blade energy" is a loving killer phrase
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Borrovan posted:A medic told me the same exact thing, apparently fucktons of regular alcohol is an effective treatment for methanol poisoning. For context, we were hammering down a bunch of "whisky" that some Polish lads in Southampton made in their garage at the time, so he must have been confident. Yeah, the Vmax of ethanol:AD is a lot faster than methanol:AD, so Dr. House was not bullshitting on this one. Needless to say, don't try to apply this logic to almost any other drug/poison combo tho
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Just did a great belly laugh at Jo Swinson taking a dump all over "economically conservative, socially liberal" when it's the Lib Dems entire reason for existing.
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^^^Especially since she just pissed off the other half by offering a pointless £9k bung to everyone. Nah, this is just 4D chess. She's positioning herself so that when they become the Liberal Quisling UKs, the graun won't call the transition forced.
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Total Meatlove posted:Wales would be proper hosed as an independent nation though? North Wales in particular? There's a lot of animosity towards South Wales in the North (source: am from North Wales). There's a perception that South Wales betrayed the country by dumbing down the language, and by bending over backwards to please the English. So any successful plan for independence would have to include some amount of appeasement to close those old wounds, perhaps including moving the Capital to Aberystwyth as a compromise, and greater economic investment in the North
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