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ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!
I understand tankies. Because what are you gonna do, solidarity landlords and their pet cops to death?

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Kanine
Aug 5, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
tankies always try to go "well if hating landlords/capitalism makes me a tankie so be-it" as a way to obfuscate the fact that most people in this thread using the term tankie do in fact hate landlords/capitalism themselves. tankies try to use this tactic in order to passive-aggressively imply that anyone who doesnt lick the boots of "actually existing socialist" state-capitalist regimes is doing a communism wrong.

Kanine has issued a correction as of 04:14 on Sep 15, 2019

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

Kanine posted:

tankies always try to go "well if hating landlords/capitalism makes me a tankie so be-it" as a way to obfuscate the fact that most people using the term tankie do in fact hate landlords/capitalism themselves. tankies try to use this tactic in order to passive-aggressively imply that anyone who doesnt lick the boots of "actually existing socialist" state-capitalist regimes is doing a communism wrong.

Partially. But try to get in their head a little better than that. They're very often thinking in terms of means to ends, that lets be honest, gets underplayed in voluntaryism revolution discussion.

It's not that there aren't books and books and books about it if you get into theory, but in too online discussions no one is talking about how to form a militia, keep it organized long enough to raid the Hamptons, and put all the landlords to the knife.

It's deeply uncomfortable to talk about.

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo
Wait, so what's the "non-tankie"-approved method of executing the landlords? Certainly don't wanna be a tankie, but letting the landlords survive would be infinitely worse.

Stocking
Jul 24, 2007

crying "tankie" has become just like a meaningless noise for idiot libs to signal their presence to eachother like brainless hooting birds

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

Cup Runneth Over posted:

It's what he called himself dude. What should I have said instead, "shitstain"? Accurate, sure, but I don't think it would be specific enough to make it clear that I'm specifically denouncing his ideology.

you could just try not posting

Control Volume
Dec 31, 2008

I am truly and sincerely baffled as to why you all care about this term so much

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

Control Volume posted:

I am truly and sincerely baffled as to why you all care about this term so much

Tanks shooting landlords would be cool!

Control Volume
Dec 31, 2008

Well, yeah

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos
Tanks for the memories

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy
is a fat tankie a tonker

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Admiral Ray posted:

is a fat tankie a tonker

its still tankie but you're upgraded to oil tankers

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
Tankie is basically like liberal in CSPAM a kind of vague term that has been made even vaguer until it basically means everyone I don’t personally like

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

CharlestheHammer posted:

Tankie is basically like liberal in CSPAM a kind of vague term that has been made even vaguer until it basically means everyone I don’t personally like

Is there some way to be a liberal and a tankie at the same time? We should preserve individual rights by having an army that rolls up and crushes the reactionaries?

Control Volume
Dec 31, 2008

A free market solution for the landlord problem

Brute Squad
Dec 20, 2006

Laughter is the sun that drives winter from the human race

Control Volume posted:

A free market solution for the landlord problem

disruptive guillotine solutions.

like a trip hammer, but with an axe blade and a conveyer belt

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy
innovative wealth based quantum traps designed to cause a paradigm shift in society and the world

Serf
May 5, 2011


Danaru posted:

Big same, my concern is getting gulag'd for being a homosexual afterwards

no one is going to send you to the camps for being gay. the first stalinists i ever met were all awesome trans people.

the weirdo anti-lgbt leftists are largely dead and gone, and have no chance of regaining any sort of power

Tinestram
Jan 13, 2006

Excalibur? More like "Needle"

Grimey Drawer
I don’t necessarily want to kill the landlords personally but I wouldn’t shed many tears if so many of them were guillotined that the rest voluntarily gave up their holdings and/or fled from society completely. Am I a tankie? It sounds like a term of endearment to be honest. Aww, who’s my little tankie? It’s you isn’t it? *pats your head*

ProperGanderPusher
Jan 13, 2012




Problem is you risk tankies going mad with power once they take over and liquidating anybody they vaguely don’t like, like rival leftist groups. See: Bolsheviks.

Serf
May 5, 2011


ProperGanderPusher posted:

Problem is you risk tankies going mad with power once they take over and liquidating anybody they vaguely don’t like, like rival leftist groups. See: Bolsheviks.

good thing tankies are largely limited to online people and their views are not representative of the left in america at large. i'm no tankie because i don't think the material conditions of the past are the same as the conditions we face now. and they're not going to win people over, either

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!
More like land lard am I right

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


ikanreed posted:

More like land lard am I right

land laird

it's scottish you see

im on the net me boys
Feb 19, 2017

Hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhjjhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhjhhhhhhjhhhhhhhhhjjjhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh cannabis

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

ikanreed posted:

Is there some way to be a liberal and a tankie at the same time? We should preserve individual rights by having an army that rolls up and crushes the reactionaries?

Change "reactionaries" to "leftists" and its basically the French reaction to the June uprising in 48

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

StashAugustine posted:

Change "reactionaries" to "leftists" and its basically the French reaction to the June uprising in 48

I'm pretty sure that makes it zero percent Tankie and 100% liberal

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


Tankies is a useful term for unironic Maoists/Stalinists/Juchists and the worst USSR imperialism apologia, which is sometimes pretty gross

As with other similar things right-wing fuckwits use it as a general term for any and all "lefties" though

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
lefties also use it as a general term as well

or centralist I guess it can be hard to tell the difference on a drive by shitpost

though I don’t think I’ve ever seen a right winger use tankie

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

CharlestheHammer posted:


though I don’t think I’ve ever seen a right winger use tankie

Well yeah. Tanks rolling in to crush opposition is inherently good to them. The only problem they have with tankies is the tanks have wrong flag on them

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

ikanreed posted:

I'm pretty sure that makes it zero percent Tankie and 100% liberal

Well I meant in the general sense of "this is the revolution we'll have and gently caress you if you disagree" but also your defintion's similar to the Jacobins

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Kanine posted:

ok for real you can hate landlords, etc. and advocate the overthrow of capitalism and not be a tankie

Thanks for clarifying this thing that was never a point of debate

Kind of sad that dude was able to muddy the waters enough that people here seem to genuinely think that was at all what anyone was talking about. He was being disingenuous, folks! And he called himself a tankie.

Awesome Animals posted:

a lot of bad posting happened overnight. I'm going to continue hoping landlords get the guillotine.

:yeah:

Cup Runneth Over has issued a correction as of 22:20 on Sep 13, 2019

reignonyourparade
Nov 15, 2012

Raskolnikov38 posted:

THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Cup Runneth Over posted:

It doesn't, unless that's your coy way of saying "I co-opt leftist language to push authoritarianism and the only meaningful difference between me and a fascist is my paraphernalia and imagery"

yeah but how does one define authoritarianism. i pretty much believe in complete freedom up until it impacts other people, but what defines 'impact' is incredibly subjective. to some, that stance is horrifically authoritarian, and to others its anarchist bullshit

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Larry Parrish posted:

yeah but how does one define authoritarianism. i pretty much believe in complete freedom up until it impacts other people, but what defines 'impact' is incredibly subjective. to some, that stance is horrifically authoritarian, and to others its anarchist bullshit

yeah I read a good post on that recently and how the authoritarianism/libertarianism divide is bullshit

fearwax.tumblr.com posted:

honestly the authoritarian/libertarian dichotomy is loving useless when it comes to political science

like, most human beings who aren’t assholes would consider the abolition of slavery a libertarian move because it expanded the freedoms of a large group of people, but a plantation owner from the 1860′s would consider it authoritarian because you’re “depriving him of his right to property” (this was actually an argument made when slavery was a thing)

what’s considered “libertarian and authoritarian” often depends entirely on where you are in the existing class structure, and what’s considered liberation for an oppressed class is very often considered authoritarian for an oppressor class

"bootlicking" is probably a better term to use for tankies tbqh

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

I'm lighting some incense and saying a short prayer to the God of Funny Content, who has forsaken our thread

ASenileAnimal
Dec 21, 2017

Vox Nihili posted:

I'm lighting some incense and saying a short prayer to the God of Funny Content, who has forsaken our thread

i had a landlord that we would see frequently being thrown out of one of the neighborhood bars for being too drunk and creepy, often shirtless.

Woof Blitzer
Dec 29, 2012

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Vox Nihili posted:

I'm lighting some incense and saying a short prayer to the God of Funny Content, who has forsaken our thread

I’ll make some posts sometime this weekend to distract from the doo doo

RBC
Nov 23, 2007

IM STILL SPENDING MONEY FROM 1888

A MIRACLE
Sep 17, 2007

All right. It's Saturday night; I have no date, a two-liter bottle of Shasta and my all-Rush mix-tape... Let's rock.

ASenileAnimal posted:

i had a landlord that we would see frequently being thrown out of one of the neighborhood bars for being too drunk and creepy, often shirtless.

I had a landlord that would come to my favorite bar and sit by himself at a table and grumble at the waitstaff about their service. he was very lonely

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Woof Blitzer
Dec 29, 2012

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This one's a real humdinger!



Just checking in.



Landlordcels



I thought landlords were against getting free government cheese (socialism)??

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