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tminz
Jul 1, 2004
I've got some MO shares in the Roth. I like the idea of them having some synergy between vaping and weed but it's an awfully long timeline.

I do think the vaping news cycle is overblown, at the end of the day it's going to be a safer alternative than cigs.

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cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos

tminz posted:

I've got some MO shares in the Roth. I like the idea of them having some synergy between vaping and weed but it's an awfully long timeline.

I do think the vaping news cycle is overblown, at the end of the day it's going to be a safer alternative than cigs.
Young people are acutely dying from respiratory distress causes by macrophages in their lungs filling up on oil used to deliver the active agents and causing a massive inflammatory response. It’s really bad and vaping hasn’t been around long enough to be able to get lobbyists in DC. There is going to be a lockdown then a regulatory push with consolidation by big players and pushing out of the chinese garbage and small players.

Deep State of Mind
Jul 30, 2006

"It was a busy day. I do not remember it all. In the morning, I thought I had lost my wallet. Then we went swimming and either overthrew a government or started a pro-American radio station. I can't really remember."
Fun Shoe

How does silver even work? Is it a hedge like gold or is it just like when there's demand for jewelry or something?

hot cocoa on the couch
Dec 8, 2009

Bloodnose posted:

How does silver even work? Is it a hedge like gold or is it just like when there's demand for jewelry or something?

It's got a fair chunk of "metal is money" demand like gold but over half of all new production is for industrial use iirc. It's a pretty handy industrial metal

LLCoolJD
Dec 8, 2007

Musk threatens the inorganic promotion of left-wing ideology that had been taking place on the platform

Block me for being an unironic DeSantis fan, too!
It has a lot of industrial applications, and is good to hold when the value of fiat currency declines. The prevailing bullish argument seems to be that growing sovereign debt will necessitate the dilution in value of fiat currencies around the globe.

crazypeltast52
May 5, 2010



Zerohedge is that way.

hot cocoa on the couch
Dec 8, 2009

crazypeltast52 posted:

Zerohedge is that way.

That's not warranted. I dont agree that "fiat" currency drives silver prices, considering it's very heavy and growing use in industry (solar PVs and electric cars are a big driver here), but some significant players still maintain a "metal is money" mindset, however erroneously, namely China. It's worth talking about when considering the value of an asset

Agronox
Feb 4, 2005

Wow I knew tobacco got knocked around, but holy smokes, MO is yielding 7.50% now? PM 6.25%? Might be worth reading some filings over the weekend...

greasyhands
Oct 28, 2006

Best quality posts,
freshly delivered

cowofwar posted:

Young people are acutely dying from respiratory distress causes by macrophages in their lungs filling up on oil used to deliver the active agents and causing a massive inflammatory response. It’s really bad and vaping hasn’t been around long enough to be able to get lobbyists in DC. There is going to be a lockdown then a regulatory push with consolidation by big players and pushing out of the chinese garbage and small players.

10 of millions of people vape and a handful of people have died/gotten sick and all were confirmed to be using shady 3rd party crap of questionable origins. There is definitely an overblown hysteria going on right now

El_Elegante
Jul 3, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Biscuit Hider

greasyhands posted:

all were confirmed to be using shady 3rd party crap of questionable origins.

This is not correct.

tminz
Jul 1, 2004
MACROPHAGES!

Vaping is already entrenched. I think we see a flavor ban at most and that would even surprise me.

Comrayn
Jul 22, 2008
They are going to ban flavored vape poo poo which has nothing to do with the handful of deaths from the stuff that killed them which is at best questionable legal already.

On the other hand all this fruit flavored addictive poo poo was absolutely made and marketed for teenagers but they will get at worst a slap on the wrist for that.

dougdrums
Feb 25, 2005
CLIENT REQUESTED ELECTRONIC FUNDING RECEIPT (FUNDS NOW)

Hit Man posted:

China's new strategy is placating The Orange One, which feels like tomorrow should be another good day :toot:

dougdrums posted:

I bought SOYB this morning. Farmers are taking the aid package and not planting. The weather hasn't been helping either. Seems like a good setup for a bubble.
:prepop:

Harry Potter on Ice
Nov 4, 2006


IF IM NOT BITCHING ABOUT HOW SHITTY MY LIFE IS, REPORT ME FOR MY ACCOUNT HAS BEEN HIJACKED
https://twitter.com/verge/status/1172603760209735680?s=20



:smug:

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Ulio posted:

Oh I did not know that part. I knew juul was private but didn't know who invested in them.

It's been pretty clear the current FDA head is waging total war against vapes and opioid so I have stayed clear of those.
Scott Gottlieb resigned in April. The current interim head hasn’t really crusaded against vapes.

I work on the drug side of FDA and almost never interact with the tobacco people but I don’t think there’s a concerted effort to ban them. Right now it’s about figuring out what’s causing the lung illnesses.

paternity suitor
Aug 2, 2016


RIP to a real one

Agronox
Feb 4, 2005

They were true pioneers in Dilution as a Service.

Toxic Mental
Jun 1, 2019


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox55p067Upw

Toxic Mental
Jun 1, 2019

My predictions for next week's earnings

MagicBoots
Mar 29, 2010

How about we pump the atmosphere full of methane?
You put me on Cargo handling optimization?! I am the premier defense specialist in the entirety of the UN!
Don't you dare pull my funding!
You can't cut back on funding!
You will regret this!
Houthis just cut Saudi oil production in half:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-09-14/saudi-aramco-contain-fires-at-facilities-attacked-by-drones?srnd=premium

The North Tower
Aug 20, 2007

You should throw it in the ocean.

MomJeans420 posted:

The CEO looks like he just poo poo his pants and while he's not sure about it, he kind of likes it

Quasimodo

orange sky
May 7, 2007

Oil prices are gonna be interesting tomorrow

greasyhands
Oct 28, 2006

Best quality posts,
freshly delivered
It's all going to be back online in a few days, there will probably be some gyrations but this is not really a big deal

orange sky
May 7, 2007

I think it's more about the knowledge that the houthis did this, and can do it again. That's bound to shake some people up

greasyhands
Oct 28, 2006

Best quality posts,
freshly delivered
It's pretty wild they sent 10 kamikaze drones in, that was probably quite a scene

Harry Potter on Ice
Nov 4, 2006


IF IM NOT BITCHING ABOUT HOW SHITTY MY LIFE IS, REPORT ME FOR MY ACCOUNT HAS BEEN HIJACKED

greasyhands posted:

It's pretty wild they sent 10 kamikaze drones in, that was probably quite a scene

Is that what went down? I havent read anything about it yet

The North Tower
Aug 20, 2007

You should throw it in the ocean.

Harry Potter on Ice posted:

Is that what went down? I havent read anything about it yet

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-09-14/saudi-aramco-contain-fires-at-facilities-attacked-by-drones?srnd=premium

It's here! The future!

Harry Potter on Ice
Nov 4, 2006


IF IM NOT BITCHING ABOUT HOW SHITTY MY LIFE IS, REPORT ME FOR MY ACCOUNT HAS BEEN HIJACKED

And it costs money!

MagicBoots
Mar 29, 2010

How about we pump the atmosphere full of methane?
You put me on Cargo handling optimization?! I am the premier defense specialist in the entirety of the UN!
Don't you dare pull my funding!
You can't cut back on funding!
You will regret this!

orange sky posted:

I think it's more about the knowledge that the houthis did this, and can do it again. That's bound to shake some people up

This was my thought, they just demonstrated the ability to strike at Saudi oil production with relatively cheap/commonly available hardware and the Saudis don't appear to have any defense or answer to that. They also claimed that this was done with "co-operation with the honorable people inside the kingdom", which raises the specter that there are people within Aramco helping the rebels. Current Saudi leadership has been making a lot of internal enemies lately.

Residency Evil
Jul 28, 2003

4/5 godo... Schumi

My sister bought like a few hundred bucks worth as a lottery ticket a year ago or so. Hope this teaches her.

paternity suitor
Aug 2, 2016


That seems bad

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Won't this drive up gas prices super hard and grant the petrostates more leeway?

Agronox
Feb 4, 2005

Residency Evil posted:

My sister bought like a few hundred bucks worth as a lottery ticket a year ago or so. Hope this teaches her.

Posters here did too. It's a tough lesson to learn, though.

fougera
Apr 5, 2009
Doesn’t this gently caress China?

ranbo das
Oct 16, 2013


I spent far too long trying to figure out how moviepass finally biting the dust hosed over China.

crazypeltast52
May 5, 2010



Grouchio posted:

Won't this drive up gas prices super hard and grant the petrostates more leeway?

The petrostates that won’t have to spend money hardening infrastructure against drone attacks. So the US, Canada and Norway.

Intrigued and terrified what happens when the CIA wants to gently caress with Russia’s energy infrastructure.

LLCoolJD
Dec 8, 2007

Musk threatens the inorganic promotion of left-wing ideology that had been taking place on the platform

Block me for being an unironic DeSantis fan, too!
Trump gave a rather soft statement on vaping. I am tempted to get in on some Altria shares.

Comrayn
Jul 22, 2008
It would make sense to go long on vaping now that the damage is done. It’s not like he has ever followed through on anything else.

Ulio
Feb 17, 2011


Josh Lyman posted:

Scott Gottlieb resigned in April. The current interim head hasn’t really crusaded against vapes.

I work on the drug side of FDA and almost never interact with the tobacco people but I don’t think there’s a concerted effort to ban them. Right now it’s about figuring out what’s causing the lung illnesses.

Lmao Scott Gottlieb was such a loving hustler, he was part of a investment firm that only invested in bioparmas and he is the head of the department that basically decides their share price. That is the beauty of the Trump administration, where ever you look there is market manipulation and conflict of interest.

Also ya guys Iran who can't sell any oil decide to attack the Saudi oil which will increase the price of oil which only benefits net exporters of oil and we know who those two countries are. The two countries who like to call everyone terrorists. Now lets see what happens to the spot price of oil, it should increase but futures should go a lot higher than it, which was the opposite last week. This is so predictable it's hilarious. Wti near low 50s? Buy vol boys because someone is getting bombed.

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BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012
https://twitter.com/SethCL/status/1173232702360891392?s=19

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