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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:granted, but usually it’s more ballpark than this Wasteland used to be a >$100 uncommon, and Ancient Tomb a $50 uncommon. That probably pushed the price of sealed Tempest product up even higher, and as we all know, commodities like MTG stuff can never go down in price, so it's just stayed high.
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Henge Walker https://twitter.com/coL_Amazonian/status/1172934788019306496?s=20 and Fires of Inventions 
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Sep 14, 2019 21:16
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Okay why does the forum sometimes just hide a post? I can see that Kurtofan posted the "latest post" but it's not showing up in the thread. I will have that Kurtofan post.
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Sep 14, 2019 21:17
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Hellsau posted:Okay why does the forum sometimes just hide a post? I can see that Kurtofan posted the "latest post" but it's not showing up in the thread. i think its because theres a big event in town, and it fucks up with my internet connection and there it is, my post is there
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Sep 14, 2019 21:18
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Tibalt posted:Is gnome a new creature type? Gno. E:fb
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Sep 14, 2019 21:19
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PJOmega posted:Gno. gnyes
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Sep 14, 2019 21:21
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xarph posted:Do you know which one it was? I'll put it on my watchlist. I really want to say Duelist #4 with the Melissa Benson tiger man cover. It had an article on... I want to say Zak Dolan trade sharking his way up from a couple of starters (and then his World Championship deck looking nothing like any of the stuff he traded for).
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Sep 14, 2019 21:35
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Toshimo posted:I really want to say Duelist #4 with the Melissa Benson tiger man cover. It had an article on... I want to say Zak Dolan trade sharking his way up from a couple of starters (and then his World Championship deck looking nothing like any of the stuff he traded for). Although now reviewing Zak's article in Duelist #3, I may be conflating them. But the sharking article definitely exists.
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Sep 14, 2019 21:39
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Toshimo posted:Although now reviewing Zak's article in Duelist #3, I may be conflating them. But the sharking article definitely exists. Although, I did find this, which is unrelated, but great. 
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Sep 14, 2019 21:42
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Kurtofan posted:Henge Walker Fires seems intensely, extremely busted
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Sep 14, 2019 21:44
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Toshimo posted:Although, I did find this, which is unrelated, but great. Not for nothing but halberd dinoman is great, is that art from a card?
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Sep 14, 2019 21:49
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Owlbear Camus posted:Am I the only one who occasionally goes to flea markets and garage sales with the fantasy of a "yard sale find" of some old shoebox with some beat up OG duals interspersed among the wood elementals and living walls, or a sealed box of some old set? I found 2 warhammer sets at a thrift store earlier this year. It was half off day so they were $2 each, one was sealed and the other was open but untouched. They were selling on eBay for about $40 each. Sold them to a player for $60. It happens, you just have to be very very lucky. A friend from high school knew I still played magic so he wanted me to look at his 95-98 era collection. He pulled out like a royal assassin, shiva dragon, a few other cards that were worth a lot back when he played in middle school. His jaw dropped when I told him all the stuff he pulled out had very little value, but his sylvan library, 3 wastelands and 2 city of traitors were worth a few hundred dollars. It was before the eternal masters reprints. He had a few other cards in the $10-$20 range so he was pretty happy. I kept a demonic tutor for my troubles.
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Sep 14, 2019 21:51
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meanolmrcloud posted:Fires seems intensely, extremely busted I don't get it, des it pump into abilities?
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Sep 14, 2019 21:53
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If you stumble on expensive cards at some guy's yard sale and then don't pay a decent part of their actual value for them then you are a scum bag
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Sep 14, 2019 21:53
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Sampatrick posted:If you stumble on expensive cards at some guy's yard sale and then don't pay a decent part of their actual value for them then you are a scum bag What if he's a bad guy? Like I look into the public records and he's got a few domestics on his rap sheet?
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Sep 14, 2019 21:56
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Owlbear Camus posted:What if he's a bad guy? Like I look into the public records and he's got a few domestics on his rap sheet? post their reddit history here, if they post on r/freemagic then they're fair game
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Sep 14, 2019 22:00
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Tulul posted:It deals 7 to three different targets, so you could choose your opponent plus two Reckoners and deal the full 21 to their face. You mean Sundering Stroke copies 5-8? Also, don’t forget Blasphemous Acts! (Seriously folks, I’m just spitballing a jank mono red deck in modern. I don’t just think it’s a neat inefficient 4 card combo) Kurtofan posted:
Holy lord...that seems bonkers.
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Sep 14, 2019 22:03
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meanolmrcloud posted:Fires seems intensely, extremely busted It isn't, because it's a 4-mana do-nothing enchantment by itself, and the things you cast are still limited by the number of lands you have, not changing much about what you get to play. It kinda reminds me of As Foretold, which similarly reads intensely, extremely busted but in practice is a good game piece for certain decks but didn't set the world on fire.
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Sep 14, 2019 22:07
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Owlbear Camus posted:Am I the only one who occasionally goes to flea markets and garage sales with the fantasy of a "yard sale find" of some old shoebox with some beat up OG duals interspersed among the wood elementals and living walls, or a sealed box of some old set? No. And please do not disparage Living Wall. He has feelings. A guy at my store last year found a box at Goodwill with, among a bunch of junk, 1 of each grixis dual for like $5. They were Beta.
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Sep 14, 2019 22:10
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:It isn't, because it's a 4-mana do-nothing enchantment by itself, and the things you cast are still limited by the number of lands you have, not changing much about what you get to play. Yeah busted will probably end up being the wrong word, but it still looks extremely fun for brewing. As Foretold is only really abusable the turn it comes into play, so at least if it sticks this has more potential.
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Sep 14, 2019 22:10
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Owlbear Camus posted:Am I the only one who occasionally goes to flea markets and garage sales with the fantasy of a "yard sale find" of some old shoebox with some beat up OG duals interspersed among the wood elementals and living walls, or a sealed box of some old set? When I was a teenager and I think Alliances was the most recent set, my mom, who is an avid garage saler bought me a gift at a sale. She paid 5 bucks for a small box of Legends cards. The standouts were Darkness, which ended up getting a lot of play in my little black decks and also a goddamned Tabernacle. I ended up trading the Tabernacle for like 4 packs of Visions a little later to the local store owner. I still get sad when I look at the current price of Tabernacle Ate My Balls Redux fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Sep 14, 2019 |
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Sep 14, 2019 22:11
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InterrupterJones posted:Yeah busted will probably end up being the wrong word, but it still looks extremely fun for brewing. Experimental Frenzy's still legal! 
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Sep 14, 2019 22:14
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Experimental Frenzy's still legal! Turn 4, cast Fires of Invention, cast Experimental Frenzy for free. It's almost TOO good.
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Sep 14, 2019 22:21
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suicidesteve posted:Turn 4, cast Fires of Invention, cast Experimental Frenzy for free. It's almost TOO good. Wizards bravely answered the challenge of "how can we make mono red involve even less conscious thought?"
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Sep 14, 2019 22:25
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:It isn't, because it's a 4-mana do-nothing enchantment by itself, and the things you cast are still limited by the number of lands you have, not changing much about what you get to play. Fires is extremely busted if you're using it as a Wilderness Reclamation - play it on turn four and a four drop, play a fifth land and then play two insane five drops. Unfortunately it doesn't play very well with ramp that isn't just putting more lands into play, like creature ramp or Nissa, and every copy past the first is worthless, so you'd have to have a very particular deck that wants it.
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Sep 14, 2019 22:26
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Does this let you flashback if the land count is >= normal casting cost? Bump in the Night would only require 1 land to flashback yeah?  You can pay additional costs like buyback and kicker, but not for free, right? Can you choose values for X in casting costs?
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Sep 14, 2019 22:29
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Kurtofan posted:Henge Walker So this is a build around where I guess you want to cast two big free spells per turn and use your actual mana on mana sinks like...firebreathing or something. The nice thing is that you can play a free spell after tapping out to play this. Really mitigates the tempo loss. It has real potential but I don't know exactly what the payoff is supposed to be.
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Sep 14, 2019 22:30
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Fires of Invention seems... fine? I mean, it lets you play a second spell immediately after if you have one, combos ok with multiple cards that already exist, and in particular it seems like ELD really, really wants to make a Big Red deck stick this coming standard and Fires could be a piece or that since it wins action economy against T3feri. I think very quietly the most powerful text on the card is the one where it asks for converted CMC instead of just any spell you can cast with the lands you control. Between Fires and Ilharg, a Big Red deck being able to diversify it's treats in a way Big Red normally never gets to could be the thing that pushes it over the edge.
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Sep 14, 2019 22:32
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the payoff in my jank deck is playing all the colours
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Sep 14, 2019 22:32
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I'm guessing there's going to be a deck with Fires and Skarrgan Hellkite, because that is a very strong sequence of plays if you also have another impactful spell to jam alongside the Hellkite, but I don't know what else goes in that deck. Maybe it's just a RG deck that also plays Nissa, even though Nissa doesn't work great with Fires she's still strong by herself and when you miss on Fires?
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Sep 14, 2019 22:38
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Toshimo posted:Although, I did find this, which is unrelated, but great. Wait. I didn't play that early in the game's life. There was a point when state-based effects weren't checked until the stack was empty?
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Sep 14, 2019 22:44
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Magic Underwear posted:So this is a build around where I guess you want to cast two big free spells per turn and use your actual mana on mana sinks like...firebreathing or something. The nice thing is that you can play a free spell after tapping out to play this. Really mitigates the tempo loss. It has real potential but I don't know exactly what the payoff is supposed to be. It works really well with the red Cavalier - pumps your guys AND gives them haste, so each subsequent creature creates a snowball effect.
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AlternateNu posted:Wait. I didn't play that early in the game's life. There was a point when state-based effects weren't checked until the stack was empty? someones gonna post that weird rats maze that to this day i still dont really understand anyone could remember
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Sep 14, 2019 22:48
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mandatory lesbian posted:someones gonna post that weird rats maze that to this day i still dont really understand anyone could remember   
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Sep 14, 2019 22:56
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AlternateNu posted:Wait. I didn't play that early in the game's life. There was a point when state-based effects weren't checked until the stack was empty? Yeah, the predecessor to the stack was the batch. I don't think the concept of state-based effects even existed, but damage wasn't checked until the batch was empty.
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Sep 14, 2019 23:01
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I've always assumed that this chart makes it look way more complicated than it actually is but on the other hand deciphering the chart in order to summarize it is nearly impossible so I'll never know
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AlternateNu posted:Wait. I didn't play that early in the game's life. There was a point when state-based effects weren't checked until the stack was empty? You could go to zero life, receive priority to cast a spell/activate an ability, and not die.
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Sep 14, 2019 23:13
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Sickening posted:Old sealed product always sells for more than its EV. New product, too.
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AlternateNu posted:Wait. I didn't play that early in the game's life. There was a point when state-based effects weren't checked until the stack was empty? The old rules were a disaster that I've never really understood, but I can tell you that at one point in the game if there was a Lightning Bolt and a Giant Growth targeting the same Grizzly Bear, that Grizzly Bear would not die regardless of the order in which they were cast.
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BrianBoitano posted:Does this let you flashback if the land count is >= normal casting cost? Bump in the Night would only require 1 land to flashback yeah? 1) Pretty sure you cannot flashback it. Flashback does not let you play it from your graveyard for just any cost, it lets you play it for its flashback cost, and Fires of Invention does not let you play it without paying its flashback costs. (You could, however, play it from your graveyard for free during a Yawgmoth's Will turn, although Fires + Will is a serious nonbo in every other regard.) 2) I believe so. 3) I don't believe so.
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