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Whitlam posted:Interesting, cheers. Do you think it'll Not likely, there is a splinter faction already but they are very single issue, and they also have a poo poo domain name/name in general, and it's formatted like a Web 1.0 site. The main guy for the splinter group keeps attending the APS branch meetings, so that's a thing!
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Whitlam posted:I know the AMA is quite conservative in a lot of its positions (e.g. iirc they opposed euthanasia in Victoria last year) and a lot of doctors denounce it pretty loudly, does the APS have similar issues of psychs saying they don't agree with the APS and refusing to recognise it? The AMA is more conservative than the Royal College of Psychiatry, which would be a more analogous body to the APS than the AMA would. Generally the AMA doesn't release a lot of political positions on issues of psychiatric diagnosis or treatment. With respect to the political leanings of the RANZCP, there isn't much daylight between them and the APS. The RANZCP appears to be much less conservative than the AMA but that's what happens in medicine when you strip out all the surgeons. God help you, though, if you try to get between a doctor and tax cuts...
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#libspill is trending on twitter. Is this anything? I can only find a crikey article talking about porter becoming the heir apparent ahead of frydenberg but that doesn’t seem much.
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Don't know about #libspill, but #libcorruption would be nice to see. from CSPAM: Inceltown posted:https://twitter.com/AshleyLeahy/status/1171597242450333696
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How long until kickbacks are just an open and accepted part of politics, it's not like there's any pushback to corruption.
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starkebn posted:This article is 2.5 years old, has anything changed? 
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LIVE AMMO ROLEPLAY posted:How long until kickbacks are just an open and accepted part of politics, it's not like there's any pushback to corruption. They're already open and accepted and there's literally nothing anyone can do about it. Ministers can give money to whoever they want, whenever they want, for whatever they want. Here's an instructive case. https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/government-ignored-advice-not-to-give-2-million-grant-to-bob-day-college-20170511-gw2xk5.html The only thing remarkable in this instance is that the ANAO uncovered written advice against this particular kickback - that's sloppy work on the APS's part, but understandable considering how lax the government has gotten in covering up its corruption. It's also funny to think that Bob Day is so cheap he sold his critical Senate vote for less than $2 million.
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Young Australians would be called up for duty at emergency services units across the country, under a plan aired by independent Senator Jacqui Lambie, to boost volunteering rates and respond to climate change. Lmao watch Lambie force Newstart recipients to fight fires for the Dole.
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quote:"It seems that today's generation don't really want to volunteer themselves and commit to certain things. They want to show up to a rally once a year and apparently that's giving back," Senator Lambie said. go gently caress yourself you dumb oval office
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Sep 15, 2019 05:58
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Anidav posted:Young Australians would be called up for duty at emergency services units across the country, under a plan aired by independent Senator Jacqui Lambie, to boost volunteering rates and respond to climate change. Isn't this counter-productive? As in just throwing untrained, unmotivated bodies at an emergency like a fire or flood or whatever just makes it worse, and doesn't help anybody who needs helping, and gets in teh way of the trained talented people doing important things. This is just another way to demonize "bludgers", and find excuses to give them less money than the bare pittance they already receive.
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In the US they use prisoners to fight wildfires. They don't get paid and after leaving prison their record almost always means they can't get actual paid jobs as firefighters.
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How about force politicians to act as human sea walls on non sitting days. They’re loving fat enough that you don’t need too many in each area
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Yeah it's wild that the thirteenth amendment has that asterisk
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Somebody needs to tell Lambie bushfires aren't malevolent gods, you can't appease them by tossing people in.
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The plan immediately falls apart because the government would have to actually spend money training them for that sort of work, and I'm not sure they have a company set up to funnel money through and back to themselves via. This feels like one of those sad brainfarts you see in newspaper letters to the editor where some old fat wanker that goes to the Worker's Club every day fantasizes about young people being taught "discipline" by making them waste a few years of their life conscripted to the armed forces or the like.
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TheLastRoboKy posted:The plan immediately falls apart because the government would have to actually spend money training them for that sort of work... Spot the assumption in this sentence.
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Whitlam posted:Spot the assumption in this sentence. They didn't think of it, so they'll poopoo it till they've managed to get it running.
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froglet posted:Somebody needs to tell Lambie bushfires aren't malevolent gods, you can't appease them by tossing people in. Watch her trade the union busting bill to get it done.
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I think politics would be better served without Labor at this point, the media wouldn’t have anything to talk about without them
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Labor should just shut up shop, but they won't because it's worth a lot of money to everyone involved that it keeps running.
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Buncha foxes in Sydney because there are one billion rats https://amp.smh.com.au/national/fox-numbers-growing-thanks-to-sydney-rat-plague-20190914-p52r9f.html
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Labor is fine, they just need to snap out of zombie mode. Which should happen at some point but it's especially painful due to us nerds paying attention to it 24/7. Relax, dudes all this is just political elevator music.
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Anidav posted:Labor is fine, they just need to snap out of zombie mode. Except the longer that music plays the more dissatisfied and disappointed we all become. I'd like to see a world labour does just cease to exist just to see how what little work the press does do would behave. Hell would the libs split as part of their ridiculous culture war in such an environment? The world isn't ever getting nicer so it would at least be slightly less depressing to watch.
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Anidav posted:Labor is fine, they just need to snap out of zombie mode. I mean they pretty much just shown they will vote anything threw, why stop when they lost doing the exact opposite
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I've been through a few* natural disasters and the common theme is that literally everyone in the community will come out to fix poo poo up. Usually to the point where there are people looking for things to do because there are so many people already doing things to help out their neighbours/family/random people they've never met before. Every time the news has put out notices that are basically "if you don't have something specific you are doing, get the gently caress out of the way and let professionals do the job". *sample size of three, but still.
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Zenithe posted:I've been through a few* natural disasters and the common theme is that literally everyone in the community will come out to fix poo poo up. I remember reading after the Haiti earthquake well-intentioned idiots from wealthy nations showed up to "help" only to realise maybe they should have planned their food/water/accommodation before leaving.
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Anidav posted:Labor is fine, they just need to snap out of zombie mode. the lesson theyve learned from losing after 6 years of small target shorten and rubber stamping everything the liberals wanted followed by a final two weeks of pretending they wouldnt anymore is that the last two weeks were a mistake. theyve learned nothing and neither have you.
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Labor is great, they just need to be a good party is all, easy peasy and being done!
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BBJoey posted:go gently caress yourself you dumb oval office I also believe that this is actually completely false
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Recoome posted:I also believe that this is actually completely false it's impossible for feckless millennials to live up to the public contributions of jacqui lambie, notably leeching off the public purse in parliament and appearing on reality TV shows
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My partner's been asking and I'm not sure of the answer myself. With the cashless welfare card, how are you meant to pay things like rent?
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Cassa posted:My partner's been asking and I'm not sure of the answer myself. You don't, and IIRC there's examples where the partitioning of welfare means that people may have money available but they can't use it and fall behind on bills etc.
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Cassa posted:My partner's been asking and I'm not sure of the answer myself. The plan is to trial it for people in public housing, so they just pay it in first.
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