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RobattoJesus posted:lmao if you think someone with a framed picture of Ayn Rand on their desk wants any institutions left standing at all. Ayn Rand took welfare payments. Their position has always been 'institutions for us, gently caress you for you'
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Barry Foster posted:'institutions for me, gently caress you for you' Fixed. They're individualists and would happily stab each other in the backs for a dollar.
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Bedshaped posted:Trying to sway the disaffected left in Kate Hoey land i've always been vaguely curious how the gently caress hoey got in charge of Vauxhall it's insanely labour and voted remain by like 77%, which wikipedia informs me is the highest remain proportion in the UK outside of gibraltar it turns out it's due to crazy amounts of racism, who knew
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Dance Officer posted:Eh, either you ignore a ton of votes to get consistent majorities that then implement lovely policy. (who then poo poo the bed when they have to do big things like brexit) Or you count all votes, have a ton of problems forming a coalition government, which then collapses over minor issues and you're back to square one. first past the  direct election of one mp per district isnt the only way to run things, you know
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Sep 15, 2019 12:26
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mixed member proportional ranked choice (irv, condorcet, etc) borda count parallel vote indirect election there are so so many options
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Squizzle posted:mixed member proportional all of those could go wrong thoug so better to stick with our tried and tested 1000 year old parliament thank you very much *has hosed up every single crisis in UK history, the queens family and a bunch of MPs are pedophles and above the rule of law*
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Dance Officer posted:Eh, either you ignore a ton of votes to get consistent majorities that then implement lovely policy. (who then poo poo the bed when they have to do big things like brexit) Or you count all votes, have a ton of problems forming a coalition government, which then collapses over minor issues and you're back to square one. Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:i've always been vaguely curious how the gently caress hoey got in charge of Vauxhall
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This got me to thinking about other songs from the Troubles. I don't think the United States is heading for an insurrection like that, but the flood of weapons here and the militarized police forces give me that vibe. As if things have been simmering for a long time and soon everything will boil over. It's a pretty horrifying thought.
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this took entirely too long for labour to propose https://twitter.com/Gabriel_Pogrund/status/1173150989580406784?s=20
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well that's one way to combat drug shortages after brexit
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Hentai Jihadist posted:all of those could go wrong thoug Don't worry, loving up and being above the law is common in parliamentary democracies around the world.
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Sep 15, 2019 12:44
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Irrespective of legal aspects I imagine the price of street drugs would probably increase with no deal?
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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:Irrespective of legal aspects I imagine the price of street drugs would probably increase with no deal?
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Sep 15, 2019 12:51
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I remember in like 2009 when Labour had a rad drugs minister who said LSD should be legal because it's safer than alcohol and they immediately fired him because Blairites sucked.
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lol that "taking expert advice" will be presented as contraversial
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RobattoJesus posted:I remember in like 2009 when Labour had a rad drugs minister who said LSD should be legal because it's safer than alcohol and they immediately fired him because Blairites sucked. Sure, I have had some good times on LSD, and sure its safer than alcohol. But then again I don't want scared as poo poo people trying to break into my house trying to escape the invisible spider people every friday night.
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happyhippy posted:Sure, I have had some good times on LSD, and sure its safer than alcohol. drunk folks make worse decisions
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Squizzle posted:mixed member proportional There, you missed one
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The people will vote for painkillers.
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Squizzle posted:drunk folks make worse decisions True, but rather have a slower angry man against me than a normal angry man but who thinks that the worms coming out of my face are telling him bad things and that he needs to remove them.
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RobattoJesus posted:I remember in like 2009 when Labour had a rad drugs minister who said LSD should be legal because it's safer than alcohol and they immediately fired him because Blairites sucked. Dr David Nutt, who completely owns and, through his own research (he was at best drug agnostic when I started, IIRC) quickly came round to strongly advocating for/experimenting with psychedelics and MDMA for depression, and is currently developing an alcohol substitute on the side. Intellectual consistency was a big no-no under New Labour, of course, especially when it contradicted the party line
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Jose posted:this took entirely too long for labour to propose whoa ... how are you going to keep the underclass in check then? I dunno about all of this
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all that petty crime, child neglect and unnecessary hospital, police and court workload reduced? nah, fecking scrougers deserve it
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just run on legalising weed its stoners vs racists in GE 2019
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assuming boris loses the next election badly and brexit is revoked without a referendum, what stops the tories of 2024 or 2029 from running on a brexit manifesto, winning a majority government with a plurality under FPTP and exiting without a deal?
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Ague Proof posted:assuming boris loses the next election badly and brexit is revoked without a referendum, what stops the tories of 2024 or 2029 from running on a brexit manifesto, winning a majority government with a plurality under FPTP and exiting without a deal? A lot more dead boomers?
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Ague Proof posted:assuming boris loses the next election badly and brexit is revoked without a referendum, what stops the tories of 2024 or 2029 from running on a brexit manifesto, winning a majority government with a plurality under FPTP and exiting without a deal? Nothing. Every country is free to leave the EU whenever it wants to. They'd have to re-invoke article 50 though, so that means another 2 years waiting time and parliament drama. And every single day the demographics are shifting against Brexit as the population that was affected by leaded gasoline is dying away and the younger generations have normal cognitive functioning.
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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:Irrespective of legal aspects I imagine the price of street drugs would probably increase with no deal? In the event of No Deal, a large sector of the British economic will become based on smuggling, and organized crime. This will lead to lots of drugs and weapons coming in, so drug prices might even fall eventually
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twoday posted:In the event of No Deal, a large sector of the British economic will become based on smuggling, and organized crime. This will lead to lots of drugs and weapons coming in, so drug prices might even fall eventually The plan to effectively wave lorries through customs to avoid days of queues might help supplies get into the country in the short term...
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Yes when it comes to groups planning to make tons of money from no deal brexit, people often overlook organised crime. They are really looking forward to literally everything just being waved through.
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Heavy_D posted:The plan to effectively wave lorries through customs to avoid days of queues might help supplies get into the country in the short term... The French have said that they're not doing this on their end so lol
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marktheando posted:Yes when it comes to groups planning to make tons of money from no deal brexit, people often overlook organised crime. They are really looking forward to literally everything just being waved through. Seems like that might crash their margins though. Free shipping from Kabul for 1t and up.
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Can't wait for organized crime to set up their own custom inspections because the lack of governmental control lets bad drugs flood in that kill off the clientele.
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Randler posted:Can't wait for organized crime to set up their own custom inspections because the lack of governmental control lets bad drugs flood in that kill off the clientele. In brexit britain, i think there will be a big market for drugs that kill you
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Ague Proof posted:assuming boris loses the next election badly and brexit is revoked without a referendum, what stops the tories of 2024 or 2029 from running on a brexit manifesto, winning a majority government with a plurality under FPTP and exiting without a deal? Nothing. Welcome to hellworld.
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You should lose the right to vote at age 60 imo. It's like if you're having a party and you ask people what music you want to play, nobody wants to listen to the opinion of the person who has their coat on and is standing by the front door getting ready to leave. I only know 1 woman who voted for Brexit and she's dead now.
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RobattoJesus posted:I only know 1 woman who voted for Brexit and she's dead now. thank you for your service 
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RobattoJesus posted:You should lose the right to vote at age 60 imo. It's like if you're having a party and you ask people what music you want to play, nobody wants to listen to the opinion of the person who has their coat on and is standing by the front door getting ready to leave. They hold all the wealth and political power, op
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