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Bleck posted:amidala mentions several times that she was elected to that position in PM I don’t know if it’s made explicit until AotC, when she humblebrags about the Naboo attempting to get rid of a term limit because she was so popular.
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Palpatine refers to her as being "recently elected" in Episode 1, but I think at that point all the EU material assumed that her appointment was for life because they had her predecessor being assassinated rather than just running out his term.
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Sep 14, 2019 20:46
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Naboo is so lovely it produced wizard satan and ruined the galaxy
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Sep 14, 2019 21:24
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I wonder why Lucas felt compelled to create Naboo rather than set those events on Alderaan? I wonder if there’s a version of the script where Episode 1 is set on Alderaan
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Sep 14, 2019 21:26
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I dont think sheeve would approve of Tarkin blowing up his home planet.
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Sep 14, 2019 21:38
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General Dog posted:I wonder why Lucas felt compelled to create Naboo rather than set those events on Alderaan? I wonder if there’s a version of the script where Episode 1 is set on Alderaan Naboo renamed itself to Alderaan to stop Palpatine from coming back to visit since they didn't want to be associated with him anymore
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Sep 14, 2019 22:00
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banned from Starbucks posted:I dont think sheeve would approve of Tarkin blowing up his home planet. The plot point of Palpatine being from Naboo never ends up really mattering at all, does it?
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Sep 14, 2019 22:12
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I doubt Palpatine gives much of a poo poo about his home planet, sentimentality doesn't seem to be his thing
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Sep 14, 2019 22:14
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CharlestonJew posted:I doubt Palpatine gives much of a poo poo about his home planet, sentimentality doesn't seem to be his thing Well yeah, he orchestrated an invasion of it that supposedly had a massive human toll.
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Sep 14, 2019 22:18
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General Dog posted:I wonder why Lucas felt compelled to create Naboo rather than set those events on Alderaan? I wonder if there’s a version of the script where Episode 1 is set on Alderaan In early drafts Naboo was actually called Utapau, so I think it was always supposed to be a different world.
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Sep 14, 2019 22:27
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Mechafunkzilla posted:She's just a monarch, there's nothing in the films to suggest Naboo is a democracy. The conversation between Padme and Anakin once they arrive on Naboo in AOTC is about how Padme felt she was too young to be elected lol, and how relieved she was when her two terms were up. Anakin also said they tried to amend the constitution to keep Padme in office.
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Sep 14, 2019 22:42
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Also that dude literally says to Gunray that they are a democracy. What's more weird is that all 50 queen decoys seem to wield the queen's authority while in disguise, so who's really making the decisions? But then for all we know being the queen was more like a figurehead rather than a position of executive power. Though the Trade Federation wanted her to sign some sort of "this is fine" paper.
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Sep 14, 2019 23:23
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General Dog posted:I wonder why Lucas felt compelled to create Naboo rather than set those events on Alderaan? I wonder if there’s a version of the script where Episode 1 is set on Alderaan there was already a lot of tattooine in ep 1, better to not further encourage any 'oh only like 4 planets in the whole galaxy matter' feelings
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Sep 14, 2019 23:29
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The thing about Naboo's democratic monarchy is that we don't know who's eligible for election or who can actually vote. Like, Padme obviously isn't a random farmer's daughter, and probably was voted into office by a house of lords, not by literally every single Naboo dipshit. You know, like in the USA.
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Grendels Dad posted:The thing about Naboo's democratic monarchy is that we don't know who's eligible for election or who can actually vote. Like, Padme obviously isn't a random farmer's daughter, and probably was voted into office by a house of lords, not by literally every single Naboo dipshit. I was about to explain why you were mistaken but then I read the last sentence and now I'm sad.
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Sep 15, 2019 00:21
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Yeah she tells Anakin her first crush was some guy she met in model UN or TFA or some other sort of rich liberal politics breeding ground. Anakin being no one from nowhere can't even process the information
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Sep 15, 2019 00:37
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General Dog posted:The plot point of Palpatine being from Naboo never ends up really mattering at all, does it? The fact that Palpatine was from Naboo was what allowed him to convince Amidala to pursue the motion of no confidence against Valorum. Once the Separatist Crisis occured, Palpatine realized Amidala was no longer as sympathetic to him as she once was (she opposed the Military Creation Act), so he engineered the assassination plot, which ended up with Jar Jar replacing Amidala in the Senate. Palpatine was able to convince Jar Jar to introduce the emergency powers resolution, partially because Jar Jar saw Palpatine as a trustworthy figure and one who helped during the Battle of Naboo. If Palpatine wasn't from Naboo, he wouldn't have those relationships and would have had a far harder time engineering the blockade, the invasion, and the subsequent motions that enabled his rise to Emperor.
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Mooey Cow posted:What's more weird is that all 50 queen decoys seem to wield the queen's authority while in disguise, so who's really making the decisions? Keira Knightly: "Hey, boss, go scrub this crusty old droid lol"
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Mooey Cow posted:Also that dude literally says to Gunray that they are a democracy. Well, here in Canada, we have someone designated to sign laws in place of the Queen so that we don't have to send them to England for her to do it. Also, Amerca considered an elected king for life, but settled on one with term limits and a different title. A President is just a different word for a unitary executive who signs legislation into law. (Although the American education system likes to pretend otherwise, there isn't much about the structure of American governance that isnt just how they did things in England but tweaked a little). Hodgepodge fucked around with this message at 03:09 on Sep 15, 2019 |
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Sep 15, 2019 02:55
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Halloween Jack posted:I mean yeah, but Brother Entropy is commenting on the online furor. Who gives a poo poo about the craft of filmmaking when we can debate who Rey's parents are and if she's the #Girlboss we need right now? Luke doesn't get to display badassery until the first act of the third movie and it's still clumsy at best.
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Sep 15, 2019 04:22
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TFA was marketed to me having the cool black kid from Attack the Block as a storm trooper that becomes a lightsaber wielding Jedi. Imagine the disappointment
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gohmak posted:Luke doesn't get to display badassery until the first act of the third movie and it's still clumsy at best. he hosed up that AT-AT walker in Empire pretty good at least
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Captain Splendid posted:Keira Knightly: "Hey, boss, go scrub this crusty old droid lol" Padme wouldn't be the first upper-class lady to pretend to be of a lower station so it wouldn't be a scandal when she got hands-on with one of the slaves.
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Sep 15, 2019 06:01
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gohmak posted:TFA was marketed to me having the cool black kid from Attack the Block as a storm trooper that becomes a lightsaber wielding Jedi. Imagine the disappointment We didn't even get this! 
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gohmak posted:TFA was marketed to me having the cool black kid from Attack the Block as a storm trooper that becomes a lightsaber wielding Jedi. Imagine the disappointment John Boyega deserves better than being the butt of every joke in the ST.
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Bogus Adventure posted:John Boyega deserves better than being the butt of every joke in the ST. It would be awesome if the Dark Side Rey weren't a fakeout and Finn has to go Jedi for real and redeem Rey. It's kind of sad that it not being a fakeout would be the real surprise, but here we are.
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Sep 15, 2019 09:36
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Just make rey bad early, remove her from the plot and make finn the mc, like what should’ve been done from the beginning
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Bogus Adventure posted:John Boyega deserves better than being the butt of every joke in the ST. Hodgepodge posted:It would be awesome if the Dark Side Rey weren't a fakeout and Finn has to go Jedi for real and redeem Rey. This sums up my big problems with TLJ and I suspect the next one. It really bums me out that Finn doesn't get more attention. He was the breakout role in TFA to me. A stormtrooper joining the rebels and using a lightsaber is way more interesting than anything else in that movie to me and in TLJ he is paid dust and given a terrible sidequest, having like no scenes with Rey even though he's like the first friend she's made in.. ever? Remember when all the promotional materials had that awesome shot of Boyega and the blue saber? Even the big billboard in Times Square?? Lmaoo what a loving joke
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Bogus Adventure posted:John Boyega deserves better than being the butt of every joke in the ST. Oh come on, it's not every joke. I mean, there's Hux.
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Are you saying a company as calculating as disney paid the bare minimum amount of required lip service to black people to get them to see their movie then slammed it hard in the other direction toward their standard girl power narrative? Theres....theres just no way theyd be that diabolical!!!
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Son of Sam-I-Am posted:Oh come on, it's not every joke. I mean, there's Hux. Finn channeled his spirit into Hux during his coma in an attempt to screw over the First Order as revenge for his lost childhood
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Sep 15, 2019 19:20
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lol remember Finn's epic showdown with the shiny tall lady he threw in the dumpster a movie earlier, possibly because she is a meany-head but we are never quite sure? Edit: like, on a scale from one to ten, how hard are you gonna laugh if Phasma returns again in this one and they yet again pretend she actually does anything that matters? Grendels Dad fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Sep 15, 2019 |
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Sep 15, 2019 19:30
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Finn finally overcame his greatest shame, which was letting himself being told what to do by a woman.
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Brother Entropy posted:there was already a lot of tattooine in ep 1, better to not further encourage any 'oh only like 4 planets in the whole galaxy matter' feelings
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Timeless Appeal posted:To be fair though, Tatooine didn't really have to be in the prequels. eh it makes a little more sense there with luke's aunt and uncle living there at the start of ANH, it's not unreasonable that his dad and grandmother had roots there too
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Brother Entropy posted:eh it makes a little more sense there with luke's aunt and uncle living there at the start of ANH, it's not unreasonable that his dad and grandmother had roots there too But Owen just moving there because he's in space witness protection feels a lot less sweaty than Leia being the daughter of a queen, but her own royal title being completely unrelated. Forced isn't the right word, but the methods in which Leia and Luke find their respective homes feels so disconnected from the story. It felt like in Episode I they kind of set these clear roots of how we get there (Anakin on Tatooine and Padame being a princess), but the former connection still ends up feeling murky and the latter connection ends up being a bit of a non-sequitur. But honestly it's all rooted in the fact that Luke and Leia being siblings was a mistake.
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Sep 15, 2019 21:54
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No way will phasma be back, there are new
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she was only ever on screen for like 2 minutes per movie and she will most definitely be back to get chumped again
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I like Gwendoline Christie, and wish they beefed up Phasma's character arc a bit more. Would've been even cooler if she had a redemptive arc, and then maybe she and Finn became bros fighting against the First Order together. Also, +1 here wrt Finn being a Jedi. I was stoked because I loved Attack the Block and seeing Boyega as a Jedi got me real excited. The one trailer with the final shot of Finn looking cool as gently caress wearing the leather jacket, facing down Kylo Ren with Anakin's saber had me so loving hyped. Oh well. TFA is still good though.
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No Mods No Masters posted:No way will phasma be back, there are new It's not like Phasma wouldn't get a shiny new Rise of Skywalker edition toy with new removable helmet and whatnot.
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