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josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

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Red Oktober posted:



Taken in Soho.

Ah yeah, corner of Rupert St. You can get a cracking burger from a stall opposite, on a weekday at least. Invent your own joke.

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Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral
Speaking of, my near 90 year-old gran tripped and fell this evening, she's probably broken her arm and there's maybe some other damage too. My parents called the ambulance service and explained she's on the ground and in a lot of pain, and got told ok, just stay there, don't try to move her or anything, and the ambulance should be there in about two hours, if it's not give us a call back and we'll try to sort something out for her.

Thank you David Cameron, for these fruits of Austerity!

Dead Goon
Dec 13, 2002

No Obvious Flaws



ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

So Lord Gower and Ian Botham have both not had their contracts renewed at Sky for cricket commentary

https://twitter.com/SkyCricket/status/1173286138091593736

And in the comments, men are not happy that women could potentially take their places in the box going forward

Isa Guha has been great since she's been on Sky, Allison Mitchell has been brilliant for many years now and the commentary for Womens matches has always been decent when I've been watching.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Jose posted:

he's talking about a coming out as a terf day

https://twitter.com/Glinner/status/1172914777003368448?s=20

I dearly wish for being a terf to be something people keep as a shameful secret they are afraid to share even with friends

Nuclear Spoon
Aug 18, 2010

I want to cry out
but I don’t scream and I don’t shout
And I feel so proud
to be alive

Apraxin posted:

Speaking of, my near 90 year-old gran tripped and fell this evening, she's probably broken her arm and there's maybe some other damage too. My parents called the ambulance service and explained she's on the ground and in a lot of pain, and got told ok, just stay there, don't try to move her or anything, and the ambulance should be there in about two hours, if it's not give us a call back and we'll try to sort something out for her.

Thank you David Cameron, for these fruits of Austerity!

jesus christ are you still waiting

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Guavanaut posted:

That's true, but I think it's worth differentiating between 'looks' as in pure physical appearance and 'a look' as in an aesthetic there, and there's aesthetics that are purposefully linked to harmful poo poo (Nazis, fashion linked to the Football Lads Alliance, blue rosettes, etc.), or on an individual level linked to their own harmful actions.

You're right that this can be built up through systems of power into prejudice, continuous media depictions of [photo of angry Black man next to headline about crime] have contributed to the sorts of casual racism that gets people crossing the street, so we should consciously check ourselves if we're furthering a judgment that benefits hierarchy, or one that challenges it.

So based on

for white dudes in our current society that would mostly be ablism, masculinity, and heteronormativity. So saying that Boris Johnson looks like a beta manlet who doesn't even lift would be a swing and a miss, and saying that Phillip Lee 'looks gay' or the ablist poo poo said about Jared O'Mara would be unacceptable.

But I don't see the issue with saying that Jacob Rees-Mogg looks like the sort of statue you'd find in the temple of a cult that sacrifices children to manipulate grain prices, because that's a deliberate aesthetic he puts out (and the sort of bad poo poo that trad masculinity/capitalism actually promotes rather than mocks).

Yeah aesthetic is different, that's a conscious choice and reflects something about them (often something overt), and that's open to criticism because you're really talking about what's behind it, innit? But even then, not everyone who has the fash haircut is right wing, and if you saw someone dressed like Mogg on the street there's a better chance they can't afford a jacket that fits. I guess I'm just more reluctant to read stuff into image unless I know enough about the person or the signifiers.

Like yeah, Mogg is obviously trash and his cosplay reflects that. Some stranger with a swastika tattoo, pretty confident they're a nazi! But a lot of the time it's not that simple, and jumping to conclusions can be harmful. Which isn't to say stuff shouldn't ring alarm bells, but you should find out what the deal is and remember that you don't know until then. And that doesn't mean you can't act on those alarm bells, like to keep yourself safe - it's more about realising the limits of your knowledge and the seductive appeal of just assuming you're right about everything

That's kinda off track from what you're saying, which I basically agree with anyway!


ThomasPaine posted:

i'm still a bit of a new athiest at heart tbf, even if I now recognise that religion is far from the root of all evil and there are bigger priorities. Dawkins is a dumb old curmudgeon with some awful takes but I still can't bring myself to hate him like most people now do

Dawkins has very real and legitimate concerns about Muslimsreligion and thinks Elon Musk personally designed all the cars and rockets

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Red Oktober posted:

Taken in Soho.

Were you?

e: dammit i was beaten

Microplastics fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Sep 15, 2019

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Liam Neeson is branching out

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

My mum had the same experience with the ambulance when she fell and hosed her leg up, it's just how long they take now. Cheers cambo, hope you rot where you stand you sack of poo poo.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Are these the private companies running things or is this the normal emergency ambulance now?

I mean drat 2 hours is what you'd expect from the police

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Normal ambulance as far as I know, they just don't have enough of them.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Two hours though? Are they taking bookings? cripes

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

If you aren't going to immediately die then yes, two hours, if not longer. Mum was laying on the floor where we managed to drag her in off the front step for about two hours.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
I think I was told four once a while back. Get a taxi. The taxi driver took one look and said no way, had to ring the ambulance back. I don't think it was 4 hours but certainly more than 2 all in. For a badly broken ankle.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
I've got a friend who's a paramedic, the whole service is hosed.

And a lot of the ambulances are privately owned now, albeit most of the private ones are the hospital transport ones rather than the emergency ones. Definitely not all, though.

Location will make a huge difference, though, if you're out in the sticks you're pretty screwed.

Lobster God
Nov 5, 2008
https://twitter.com/AbdiDuale_/status/1173314800912408577?s=19

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Happily though my stepdad still doesn't want a labour government because they'll make things worse by raising his taxes slightly (probably not)

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012

I have burned numerous saucepans, sometimes right through the metal

baka kaba posted:

I mean drat 2 hours is what you'd expect from the police

I waited longer when I broke my shoulder last December. I couldn't stand up so I lay on the pavement in the rain being sheltered by umbrellas by kind passersby. Eventually a passing police car drove me to the local hospital and I waited for the ambulance there. It was about four hours in all before it came.

If you're conscious and breathing properly you probably have a long wait, because more urgent calls come in.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

thespaceinvader posted:

I've got a friend who's a paramedic, the whole service is hosed.

And a lot of the ambulances are privately owned now, albeit most of the private ones are the hospital transport ones rather than the emergency ones. Definitely not all, though.

Location will make a huge difference, though, if you're out in the sticks you're pretty screwed.

I cycled past a kid in London who'd been knocked off his bike by a van. Other bystanders said it had been about 45 minutes already, and he seemed pretty out of it. About half an hour later a police car with a first aid kit showed up. Must have been 5 years ago now, can't imagine it's got much better.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends
A friend who I used to work with has just trained to be an ambulance driver for the South Central Ambulance service. Before this, when we worked together, she thought it would be a great idea to take another friend's tramadol for a sore shoulder, came into work and drat near passed out

Lord Ludikrous
Jun 7, 2008

Enjoy your tea...

ThomasPaine posted:

This is good when you do actually have more friends!

Post-weird mid-teenage years (but still a good decade ago) the only time I got genuinely annoyed at being ~friendzoned~ was when I asked a girl out, she did the whole 'nah, let's just be friends' thing, and I was very disappointed and sad but said OK fair enough. So I then tried to continue being friends with her, still inviting her round to flat parties and whatever other social occasions (not generally one on one stuff with me), and saying hi if I bumped into her etc. She'd usually make up an excuse or whatever and I got the message after a bit, but only a year or so later down the line did I hear from a mutual friend that she'd found it extremely creepy that I tried to maintain contact and... well... stay friends? I felt super guilty obviously, but she could have just said 'no thanks, cya' from the get go and everything would have been fine?

Lesson learned: be honest with people even if it's not easy because otherwise you're going to end up in a total clusterfuck that hurts everyone for literally no reason!

“Keep seeing each other but just as friends” is pretty much the universal way of saying “I’m not into you at all but am too nice/too scared to be honest with you.” Could be worse though, a common one during my awkward teenage years was “maybe there can be something between us, we just need to take it slowly.” So slowly in fact, that nothing ever happened because they weren’t into me but couldn’t bring themselves to just say it. So we’d be stuck in this weird limbo where we were sort of going out but not doing anything a couple going out would actually do.

Dating got so much easier when I hit my twenties it’s unreal. Although even then the odd “let’s just be friends” still reared it’s head periodically. Spoiler alert: we did not stay friends.

Dead Goon
Dec 13, 2002

No Obvious Flaws



Tramadol is great!

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

The one time I got prescribed tramadol I couldn't tell any difference so I think it must have been a placebo.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

https://twitter.com/AbdiDuale_/status/1173323066098798599?s=19

Re: ambulances - additional pressure has been put on the system by dickheads gaming it. The service will prioritise anyone who's bleeding heavily, having trouble breathing or losing consciousness, so a lot of dickheads are lying to get priority. Meanwhile some poor sod has to wait because they downplayed the seriousness of their fall.

Tsaedje
May 11, 2007

BRAWNY BUTTONS 4 LYFE

This is top stuff

BlankSystemDaemon
Mar 13, 2009




ThomasPaine posted:

Yeah I really do get this, on account of very nearly being one myself. There was a point when I was in my mid-teens when I considered myself a libertarian and new athiest (lol I know) and I could so, so easily have slipped into the whole redpill MGTOW thing. I'm genuinely so glad I came across some marxist writing that very convincingly explained why everything I thought I believed was bullshit, and I've been a leftie ever since. The crux of it was realising that the values of freedom and equality etc (that I still have) are fundamentally impossible under capitalism despite all its rhetoric, and that only communism could genuinely achieve that. But had I not been lucky I worry I could easily have been a full-on incel alt-righter by now.

i'm still a bit of a new athiest at heart tbf, even if I now recognise that religion is far from the root of all evil and there are bigger priorities. Dawkins is a dumb old curmudgeon with some awful takes but I still can't bring myself to hate him like most people now do
Well, it is possible to arrive at atheism without being told by some old dude.
Most of my knowledge of Dawkins, outside of one of his in-field books being used in a biology class, involves his creation of the word 'meme', which he is totally at fault for not making look like it's pronounced - which in my book is a lot worse than some tepid takes about lack of belief in god or otherwise.

As far as things that led me to become an atheist, other than reading the New and Old Testament, as well as the Quran and Torah as part of homework for Religious Studies (Denmark being nominally Christian, it has Religious Studies on the program but the teachers are given a lot of lee-way in how they get to teach it) - and seeing that it was all a bit... too much, I think the single biggest contributing factor was the Amsterdam Declaration.

Bobstar posted:

Yeah that sucks. I think I avoided that by never asking a girl out!

So I guess the "friendzoning" was more a default state of no girl ever making it obvious* that they were interested in me in that way.

*my first girlfriend at uni might as well have held up a large sign saying "kiss me, you feckwit", which helped break that cycle.
Heh, now I have a mental image of a couple people, with one of them holding up a sign like that, and it's absolutely adorable. :kimchi:

Being in that state of thinking that I'm not interesting to anyone is something I'm definitely guilty of because for most of school I was bullied, but I'm at a point in my life where, while I've previously dated people - because to a degree I at least got somewhat over thinking I was undesirable - so while I still have lascivious thoughts about beautiful/handsome people or people who I'm attracted to on a more personal level, those thoughts don't control my actions - and I haven't really had a need for a physical relationship in quite a long time.
It just sort of worked out that way, I guess.

I do wonder if society has changed, though - is it still the way of things that it's more common for men to express an interest in women, or have women started expressing a more clear interest in men? Because it sometimes seems that way to me, and it's great if it is changing - but it might just be that I'm in some sort of a bubble because of the people I talk to, and because I don't have much recent experience.

Apraxin posted:

Speaking of, my near 90 year-old gran tripped and fell this evening, she's probably broken her arm and there's maybe some other damage too. My parents called the ambulance service and explained she's on the ground and in a lot of pain, and got told ok, just stay there, don't try to move her or anything, and the ambulance should be there in about two hours, if it's not give us a call back and we'll try to sort something out for her.

Thank you David Cameron, for these fruits of Austerity!
That's an absolute yike, in fact it might be several! Feel free to PM me if you need to rant about it or something, friend.
The one time I've needed an ambulance urgently here in Denmark, they arrived faster than I would've thought possible and drove so fast that my mom couldn't even keep up (it was in the middle of the night).
Spent three weeks in the hospital completely zoned out on pain-killers while doctors worked on fighting a severe lung-infection that'd become a lung-membrane infection (which explained why it hurt as if 100000 needles surrounded my lungs and would sting every time I breathed in).

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


I managed to avoid incelhood by noticing how many people managed to get into relationships just fine and (rightly) assuming that it must be me, but I could never quite work out the secret sauce behind it until about five years ago when I finally understood just how crushingly lacking in confidence I had been as a child, and how all those old baked in behaviours were holding me back despite otherwise learning to chill out and enjoy life.

But I managed some right good sex having not long ago and actually quite enjoyed having someone sleeping next to me? Instead of it being an anxiety riddled nightmare that ruined everything? So hey, there's hope for all of us.

BlankSystemDaemon
Mar 13, 2009




Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

I managed to avoid incelhood by noticing how many people managed to get into relationships just fine and (rightly) assuming that it must be me, but I could never quite work out the secret sauce behind it until about five years ago when I finally understood just how crushingly lacking in confidence I had been as a child, and how all those old baked in behaviours were holding me back despite otherwise learning to chill out and enjoy life.

But I managed some right good sex having not long ago and actually quite enjoyed having someone sleeping next to me? Instead of it being an anxiety riddled nightmare that ruined everything? So hey, there's hope for all of us.
Real-talk, cuddling after sex is the best loving feeling, pun intended. I don't know what's wrong with people who just turn over and fall asleep, but there's definitely something about it that ain't right.
That is the one thing I truly do miss from not having had any need for physical relationships for a good while.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I managed to avoid incelhood by having basically no reference frame for the concept of masculinity owing to all my male family members dying and on the whole the girls at school were far less likely to beat the poo poo out of me so despite a lot of them not being very nice they still had the distinct advantage.

And I'm extremely normal now, no lingering effects whatsoever, nope.

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

Bobby Deluxe posted:

Re: ambulances - additional pressure has been put on the system by dickheads gaming it. The service will prioritise anyone who's bleeding heavily, having trouble breathing or losing consciousness, so a lot of dickheads are lying to get priority. Meanwhile some poor sod has to wait because they downplayed the seriousness of their fall.

Lol this is latin_america.txt so much - the services all suck so everyone exaggerates to get better service, but since everyone exaggerates then the people in charge of the services will expect everyone calling in to be lying out of their rear end, so if you don't lie, they'll think it's much less serious than you say it is, so the honest people get hosed, and get angry, and next time they think, they'll just lie...

I guess it's happening here too, loving sucks

Marmaduke!
May 19, 2009

Why would it do that!?
I had to call an ambulance earlier this year on a Sunday before a bank holiday, they weren't too bad. They did send a paramedic in a car round first, who kept us going until an ambulance was available. Top marks to the NHS that day.

Lord Ludikrous posted:

Morrison’s Gravesend that’s on Coldharbour Road just off the A2 at junction Gravesend (C)?

Holy poo poo I know exactly who you’re on about and he is a dead ringer for Boris. Small world.

Wow that's very specific but yes indeed! I don't live around Kent, or else I suspect I might not have had such a good experience with the NHS as described above...

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Oh dear me posted:

I waited longer when I broke my shoulder last December. I couldn't stand up so I lay on the pavement in the rain being sheltered by umbrellas by kind passersby. Eventually a passing police car drove me to the local hospital and I waited for the ambulance there. It was about four hours in all before it came.

If you're conscious and breathing properly you probably have a long wait, because more urgent calls come in.

It was more the idea that there's a 2hr backlog of Real Emergencies or whatever, although I guess they know how busy they tend to get too. My gran had a few bad falls and they treated that as pretty serious, but yeah I know they just tell you to get a taxi a lot of the time. Or how about a comfortable and convenient Arrivaź bus??



this is some amazing camera work

bird looks so hopeful

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

OwlFancier posted:

Normal ambulance as far as I know, they just don't have enough of them.

Even if they do, they're trapped in a holding pattern at A&E, which is packed out because there's no beds to actually move people into, because there's no safe way to discharge vulnerable patients because councils have had 80% of their budgets cut.

Cameronics is a full-spectrum killing machine, and there's no possible way it can be accidental.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

Cool, the Guardian are getting on that poo poo I was called a Ghoul in this thread for back in 2013.

Cameron claimed to have had to have filled in forms to get disability benefits that he later made it impossible to get for families that weren't millionaires when he was PM. This is poo poo he should be hounded about until he dies.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
There was a buy beaten up outside my house a few months ago, and was left on the ground unconscious.
So I called the ambulance and police for him, (didn't want a second guy to die outside my house) and the police turned up first 20 minutes later.
However by the time the police arrived, the guy got up and staggered away. I told the police which way he went and asked if they can call of the ambulance.
They said that the ambulances will drive up a street once, and if there's nothing there they just go onto the next call out.
Stood by the window waiting for the ambulance and they came an hour later.
I still hope I didn't waste their time that night.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Gonzo McFee posted:

Cool, the Guardian are getting on that poo poo I was called a Ghoul in this thread for back in 2013.

Holy poo poo was that 6 years ago? I remember that "you're a ghoul" stuff. It was just that one guy though

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

WHO?!? YOU DIDN'T ANSWER IT!?! WHO!?!

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
Lol the houthis caused an 18% spike in oil prices and the single greatest ever disruption to oil production

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Jose posted:

he's talking about a coming out as a terf day

https://twitter.com/Glinner/status/1172914777003368448?s=20

Great idea, I heartily approve of transphobes outing themselves so we all know who can gently caress off.

Rarity fucked around with this message at 23:19 on Sep 15, 2019

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Firos
Apr 30, 2007

Staying abreast of the latest developments in jam communism



Jose posted:

Lol the houthis caused an 18% spike in oil prices and the single greatest ever disruption to oil production

good

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