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OctoberCountry posted:Counterpoint: Getting some real prequel trilogy vibes from this but in a good way. It's the kind of absurd poo poo that the prequels needed.
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OctoberCountry posted:Counterpoint: That's insane in a good way. Please tell me the guy with the red saber flew away either: 1: Cackling 2: Singing a Marry Poppins song. 
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Sep 11, 2019 08:00
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Most of the Rebels clips I've seen were too cringy to want to make me want to watch the series but the Obi Wan duel was good.
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Sep 11, 2019 08:17
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No Mods No Masters posted:That would be the tail wagging the dog a bit, the real cause/effect is that creative on the movies thought that anything remotely related to space politics was too boring/unimportant/toxic for the main audience so justification got relegated to the fan fiction doled out to the turbo rubes. I would be genuinely shocked if either screenwriter on star wars 9 had any clue about this important space event There are just so many quick fixes: Like, make Kylo leader of the First Order from the beginning. Snoke is ultimately a redundant character, mucking up Kylo’s otherwise-perfectly-clear motivations with bad intrigue. The First Order being led by a council of Vader-worshipping ex-Jedi makes total sense. You don’t need a Snoke to ‘explain’ it, because then you need an explanation for Snoke - and if Palpertine is behind Snoke, you need to explain him. This is horribly complicated for no reason whatsoever, and causes people to ignore Kylo’s characterization because ‘he’s just Snoke’s puppet.’ Cut the entire Republic exploding; it has the effect of lowering the stakes. “It’s bad to kill 50,000,000,000 people” is not a brave stance. It means the heroes effectively stand for nothing - both figuratively and literally. As with Snoke, it muddles the Resistance’s motivations because they’re ultimately puppets of this mysterious offscreen political entity. Make Casino Planet the introductory scene / prologue, so that the film doesn’t grind to a halt every few minutes and become a logistical clusterfuck.
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Sep 11, 2019 08:39
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Robot Style posted:In one of the new books (which are canon until lucasfilm decides to contradict them), Leia is outed as Vader's daughter by a political rival while Ben is training with Luke. Presumably they had to publicize the whole redemption thing afterwards to save face, and by the time of the movies it would be common knowledge. you could make an infinitely better movie out of this than tfa and heighten whatever elements you need to if you want to juice it up to blockbuster level. make the rival factions appropriately villainous and incorporate new characters
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Sep 11, 2019 08:44
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OctoberCountry posted:Counterpoint: How is this a counterpoint, it's awful. lol
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Sep 11, 2019 10:11
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That's the moment I realized I hated the show.
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Sep 11, 2019 11:04
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sigher posted:How is this a counterpoint, it's awful. lol I don't know. I don't remember it exactly, but it kind of turns Maul into... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU23a7riD1o which is kind of hilarious.
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Bogus Adventure posted:Hiding that development in one of their books is one of the dumbest loving things they could have done because it's something the audience should really know. The only explanation is attempting to hypermonetize the franchise by requiring fans to gobble up every lovely morsel of media in order to have even the shakiest of understandings of why the galaxy is a shitshow after the triumphant ending of ROTJ. It’s literally not an important fact at all for the movie.
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Bogus Adventure posted:The only explanation is attempting to hypermonetize the franchise by requiring fans to gobble up every lovely morsel of media in order to have even the shakiest of understandings of why the galaxy is a shitshow after the triumphant ending of ROTJ. Nah. It's more that they started the ST with such an empty, hollow movie that threw out its script at the last minute and was half-improvised that other writers had to come in later and try to clean up the mess.
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Sep 11, 2019 13:35
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euphronius posted:It’s literally not an important fact at all for the movie. It gives some context as to why no one wants to go to bat for Leia outside of a few of her close (and apparently disposable) allies from her Rebel Alliance days.
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Sep 11, 2019 14:49
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Bogus Adventure posted:It gives some context as to why no one wants to go to bat for Leia outside of a few of her close (and apparently disposable) allies from her Rebel Alliance days. Also as to why the promising leader at the end of return of the Jedi is now a grumpy old rebel again despite every single person aware of the movies assuming she'd be a top leader of the new republic
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Sep 11, 2019 15:31
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mastershakeman posted:Also as to why the promising leader at the end of return of the Jedi is now a grumpy old rebel again despite every single person aware of the movies assuming she'd be a top leader of the new republic Also this explains why, after years of training as a Jedi, Benjamin Solo starts researching Darth Vader’s philosophy, cutting ties with both his family (who lied to him) and the Republic (who now despise his mom). In turn, this explains why Luke begins plotting to kill half his students.
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Sep 11, 2019 16:10
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The warning signs were always there: most Jedi mass killings are done by anti-droid supremacists.
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Sep 11, 2019 17:01
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OctoberCountry posted:Counterpoint: Has Filoni or anyone from Rebels ever talked about the absurdist thought process behind having Inquistors with Sabercopters? Because it's loving genius.
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AndyElusive posted:Has Filoni or anyone from Rebels ever talked about the absurdist thought process behind having Inquistors with Sabercopters? There's a small repulsor ring in the saber, which is how they can spin without overheating, and can be coupled with their rudimentary Force training to make long gliding jumps ... Oh, you wanted something funny
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Robot Style posted:In one of the new books (which are canon until lucasfilm decides to contradict them), Leia is outed as Vader's daughter by a political rival while Ben is training with Luke. Presumably they had to publicize the whole redemption thing afterwards to save face, and by the time of the movies it would be common knowledge. This sounds like a more interesting plot than what's in any of the movies. Like, make the first movie that, make that the inciting incident of the war. It at least introduces a "sins of the father" type element that makes the new movies a more natural extension of what came before.
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AndyElusive posted:Has Filoni or anyone from Rebels ever talked about the absurdist thought process behind having Inquistors with Sabercopters? The inquisitors were lame villains, but I admit that the payoff where Maul just slaughters them as soon as he shows up and they're never heard of again is pretty good.
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I think they just stole the idea from this toy.
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Robot Style posted:I think they just stole the idea from this toy. this will make a fine addition to my collection
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Sep 11, 2019 20:35
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If you wanted to sum up Rebels in one word it would be "Inconsistent". You'd have a great episode followed by a garbage episode followed by a so-so episode and so on.
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galagazombie posted:If you wanted to sum up Rebels in one word it would be "Inconsistent". You'd have a great episode followed by a garbage episode followed by a so-so episode and so on. I liked the show okay. I mostly watched Seasons 2-4 for people other than the main cast, like Vader, Thrawn and even Palpatine. I kind of hated the last episode (Really? Thrawn is defeated by loving magic space whales?) but ultimately had to accept it (Yeah, figure the only thing Thrawn wouldn't see coming and be able to counter would be loving magic space whales). I'd be willing to kill for a series or just some Timothy Zahn books on "The Adventures of Thrawn and Ezra in Magic Space Whale Space" or whatever.
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Necrotizer F posted:I liked the show okay. I mostly watched Seasons 2-4 for people other than the main cast, like Vader, Thrawn and even Palpatine. I kind of hated the last episode (Really? Thrawn is defeated by loving magic space whales?) but ultimately had to accept it (Yeah, figure the only thing Thrawn wouldn't see coming and be able to counter would be loving magic space whales). Magic FTL-travelling space whales (  ) as the source of hyperspace technology in the universe is both extremely cool and also exceedingly stupid as gently caress all at the same time. So I suppose it checks out.
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Would've been cool if each season focused on a separate group of rebels that then come together in the last season to form (part of) the Rebellion
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After the opening crawl, we pan from space. The camera moves towards a planet covered in trees. We see a blue lightsaber dueling a green lightsabers in the distance. Both of the lightsabers are held in hand by two Jedi with white helmets with visors covering their faces so we cannot immediately recognize if this is Rey with someone new. The two Jedi break from their duel and remove their helmets to reveal Luke Skywalker and Leia Organa looking exactly the age they did in Return of the Jedi on Endor's moon. The movie begins with a flashback. What to expect when you're expecting. I'm told the reason the training is halted in the opening scene because Return of the Jedi era Luke Skywalker realizes something has changed with his sister, Leia Organa. He questions Leia and she confides in Luke that's she's going to be a mother. This is the moment Luke Skywalker realizes Ben Solo is coming and the galaxy will never be the same again. We then hear a voice-over shouting "Master Leia!" causing Rey to end Leia's flashback and we are thrust into the post-Luke Skywalker era, far from General Leia Organa's training with her brother all those years ago. Now, we are with Leia and Rey amongst the trees. Rey trains to become the Jedi that will face-off against the evil supreme leader that was once the child Leia carried during her training with Luke Skywalker.
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Milkfred E. Moore posted:After the opening crawl, we pan from space. The camera moves towards a planet covered in trees. We see a blue lightsaber dueling a green lightsabers in the distance. Both of the lightsabers are held in hand by two Jedi with white helmets with visors covering their faces so we cannot immediately recognize if this is Rey with someone new. The two Jedi break from their duel and remove their helmets to reveal Luke Skywalker and Leia Organa looking exactly the age they did in Return of the Jedi on Endor's moon. The movie begins with a flashback. What to expect when you're expecting. It's the Star Wars sequel opening I would have wanted and imagined as a 16 year old. Now...whether or not that is a good thing is another story. .........  Edit: I like the ST so far, Solo, and Rogue One (which might be my favorite in the whole series). I'm more excited for The Mandalorian than I likely "should" be. I recognize the flaws of the Disney approach, but I'm also that guy who is just really happy these are being made in the first place because we could be stuck with novels with a 90 year old OT trio and more comics that flesh out things I never cared about (but still read anyway!). Like, I'm ALL the gently caress in at this point unless they literally put feces on my face with every ticket. Which, I suppose, makes me the perfect kind of whore for Disney to rake in billions with, one movie ticket and DVD at a time. I regret nothing. 
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Sep 16, 2019 01:25
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Where does Leia get the blue lightsaber from?
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teagone posted:Where does Leia get the blue lightsaber from? Darth Vader died with it in his rear end
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teagone posted:Where does Leia get the blue lightsaber from? Why would this matter?
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sigher posted:Why would this matter? I'm just wondering you NERRRRRRD.
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teagone posted:Where does Leia get the blue lightsaber from? Allegedly she built it, and the ghost of Luke gives it to Rey later in the movie.
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Robot Style posted:Allegedly she built it, and the ghost of Luke gives it to Rey later in the movie. That's cool I guess. But then that just raises of the question of where she got the parts from lol. Maybe Luke brought more spare saber parts from Obi-Wan's hut with him to Endor? Whatever. Still pretty cool opening if true imo. I'm down. [edit] Do we need spoiler tags in the spoiler thread?
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teagone posted:That's cool I guess. But then that just raises of the question of where she got the parts from lol. I guess Luke brought more spare saber parts from Obi-Wan's hut with him to Endor? Whatever. Still pretty cool opening if true imo. I'm down. I don't see much of a problem. I don't think the scene is on Endor: Leia is pregnant, plus it's described as being a forest on an unnamed planet, and it sounds like it's meant to be the same place Leia is training Rey. Some of this could be just hearing it second hand though.
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The premiere of Episode XI will be a day long remembered. It will see the end of the Sequel Trilogy. It will soon see the end of the fandom.
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Where do you think Han and Leia would have hosed on Endor? In the shuttle they came in? Kicked Lando and the little alien guy out of the Falcon and did it there? In a tiny ewok hut?
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Maybe she hosed an Ewok.
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sigher posted:Maybe she hosed an Ewok. Ever wonder where the phrase "sticky Wicket" came from?
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sigher posted:Maybe she hosed an Ewok. I mean theres no maybe about it. Im just asking about when she hosed Han
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banned from Starbucks posted:Where do you think Han and Leia would have hosed on Endor? In the shuttle they came in? Kicked Lando and the little alien guy out of the Falcon and did it there? In a tiny ewok hut? “So princess, you ever seen the inside of an AT-ST?”
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Han actually got her pregnant when she was shot and he felt her up pushing her back.
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