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Centrist Committee posted:The Houthis just reduced global oil production 5% by attacking Saudi oil fields on foot with a few small drones but nope nothing can be done about century and a half old water contracts I just don't think almond trees are as flammable as oil refineries 
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Buttcoin purse posted:I just don't think almond trees are as flammable as oil refineries Yeah, the almond trees are a wasteful thing. Never mind the cattle feed though. What do you think goes back to China in those shipping containers?  http://www.takepart.com/article/2015/05/11/cows-not-almonds-are-biggest-water-users
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Sep 16, 2019 05:33
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Jesus they need a progressive tax policy on water use
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Sep 16, 2019 05:52
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Goodpancakes posted:Jesus they need a progressive tax policy on water use Not only did they decide to grow gently caress tons of crops in the desert they decided to grow the hell out of the worst ones when it comes to water use.
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Infinite Karma posted:Couldn't we do something like requiring metering and add a use tax per ac-ft or something? Making it prohibitively expensive to waste water on alfalfa is just as good as taking the water rights away. This is more or less on the way via the SGMA passed in 2014. It's mostly been in the setup stage until recently though.
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Sep 16, 2019 11:55
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https://twitter.com/latimes/status/1173575511005642754?s=20 Lmao
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Sep 16, 2019 13:34
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Maybe if they had chosen an EXISTING route, obtaining rights of way wouldn't be such an issue. Maybe.
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Sep 16, 2019 17:00
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Or maybe if all the landed gentry in the Central Valley weren't giant assholes whose primary purpose was gumming up the works and then winning a settlement.
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Sep 16, 2019 17:22
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Take all their land and water away.
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Sep 16, 2019 17:37
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Not only did they decide to grow gently caress tons of crops in the desert they decided to grow the hell out of the worst ones when it comes to water use.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Not only did they decide to grow gently caress tons of crops in the desert they decided to grow the hell out of the worst ones when it comes to water use. That's what happens when water is free. The upstream users don't give a gently caress and grow alfalfa because why not? It's really easy.
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Sep 16, 2019 18:19
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It rained up here in the valley! Hurrrrrray!
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Sep 16, 2019 18:22
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I was woken early this morning by what I believed to be a gushing leak somewhere, but when I investigated, it turned out the splashing sound was coming from drops of water falling out of the sky, collecting on the roof, and running off onto the ground.
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Sep 16, 2019 18:27
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Hooray for precipitation!
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Sep 16, 2019 18:31
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withak posted:I was woken early this morning by what I believed to be a gushing leak somewhere, but when I investigated, it turned out the splashing sound was coming from drops of water falling out of the sky, collecting on the roof, and running off onto the ground. Witchcraft!
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Sep 16, 2019 19:23
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VideoGameVet posted:Maybe if they had chosen an EXISTING route, obtaining rights of way wouldn't be such an issue. If you're talking about the coast route, certainly not. People would absolutely loose their minds about all of the widening, at-grade crossing removal, and overhead wire installation that would need to be done. Plus a lot of land would still need to be bought and bridges and tunnels built to straighten out the route enough to make HSR worthwhile.
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Sep 16, 2019 19:24
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You know, those useless online petitions people sign would make a great honeypot for finding anti-transit / NIMBYs needing a visit from the guillotine squad.
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Weembles posted:If you're talking about the coast route, certainly not. I believe the original Euro advisors said "run it right down interstate 5". Harris Farms, Paramount Farms, the Tejon Ranch Company billionaires all said "NO loving WAY" "OBAMA CREATED DUST BOWL!"
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Sep 16, 2019 20:24
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Keyser_Soze posted:I believe the original Euro advisors said "run it right down interstate 5". The route down the 5 skipped every population center in the valley. Servicing those towns was a major feature of the system.
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Weembles posted:The route down the 5 skipped every population center in the valley. Servicing those towns was a major feature of the system. Pork barreling at the expense of public infrastructure does seem to be the major feature of public works projects nowadays.
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I believe the overall, initial goal was simply SF to LA and covering the largest 2 bases, not Chowchilla to Delano and hoping people move there. The thing was designed to fail.
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Weembles posted:The route down the 5 skipped every population center in the valley. Servicing those towns was a major feature of the system. Reminder that Fresno is larger than the largest city in 19 states by metro population, and Bakersfield isn't that far behind them. It was still going to provide major service to multiple cities large cities along the way, even if they are rural as poo poo. They still deserve to have infrastructure. The Glumslinger fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Sep 16, 2019 |
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Complications posted:Pork barreling at the expense of public infrastructure does seem to be the major feature of public works projects nowadays. Connecting cities to other cities is the whole point behind intercity rail. It's not the rail authority's fault that there are other cities in California other than LA and SF.
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Sep 16, 2019 21:31
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Amtrak already technically "Services" Stockton down to Bakersfield, though. The plan could have feeders to that existing system while still hauling rear end down 5. Stockton's airport just added an L.A. daily flight, Sac has some service that flies to San Jose now for $300 each way or something. Nothing rail will ever get built now, it's over.
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Sep 16, 2019 21:35
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Yeah seems like it's dead or will be delayed by a long time at this point and will just be held up as a failure of big government.
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Sep 16, 2019 21:59
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Keyser_Soze posted:Amtrak already technically "Services" Stockton down to Bakersfield, though. The plan could have feeders to that existing system while still hauling rear end down 5. The system got bled dry by consultants and NIMBYs in the bay and LA. I know we're all supposed to hate everywhere farther than 15 miles inland, but the fact that it ran through Visalia was the last of its problems.
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Sep 16, 2019 22:11
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I’m holding on to a sliver of hope that the widespread rain in NorCal marks the end of the fire season and CA actually got a year of respite from the annual smoke and horror.
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Sep 16, 2019 22:24
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I need to stop reading about California land use politics or I'm going to self-radicalize into the world's only Georgist tankie.
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Sep 16, 2019 22:44
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Weembles posted:If you're talking about the coast route, certainly not. If they could get the speeds up to 80-100mph, it still would be a real alternative to the hellscape which is flying today.
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Kill Bristol posted:I need to stop reading about California land use politics or I'm going to self-radicalize into the world's only Georgist tankie. Yes...ha ha....the first one this thread has ever produced....
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Sep 16, 2019 23:33
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I loving hate Steve Glazer he's such a lying rat piece of poo poo
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Sep 17, 2019 06:19
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Am I the only person scared of being in the subway during an earthquake?
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drilldo squirt posted:Am I the only person scared of being in the subway during an earthquake? I'm more scared of being on a bridge.
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drilldo squirt posted:Am I the only person scared of being in the subway during an earthquake?
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Sep 17, 2019 08:56
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A properly-designed underground structure is one of the safest places to be during an earthquake.
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Most deaths I earthquakes are from old buildings getting knocked around and loose chunks of bricks and concrete falling on tour head. Being in a subway tunnel is super safe.
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Sep 17, 2019 15:49
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I always get nervous on BART when it goes through the Bay due to the concern of earthquakes and being in a tunnel underwater.
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Sep 17, 2019 15:57
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It survived ‘89 pretty good. Also apparently it was first proposed by Emperor Norton, which is fun 
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HelloSailorSign posted:I always get nervous on BART when it goes through the Bay due to the concern of earthquakes and being in a tunnel underwater. Relax! The earth between you and the water is more than enough weight to crush and kill you, rendering the risk of drowning irrelevant.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Relax! The earth between you and the water is more than enough weight to crush and kill you, rendering the risk of drowning irrelevant. The transbay tube is not underground, it is a cement tube fastened to the bay floor. Drowning is real.
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