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Ches Neckbeard posted:The league has been in a really poo poo spot for a while with maybe 3 QB's coming up during the literal decades of performance of the early 2k's QB's. Now 1 retired and the other looks not far behind him. All the old men are hitting the wall except Brady with not even a handful of replacement talents ready. It's REALLY highlighting just what a hard position it is to play on top of the parity problem. I dunno, I think the league will look really fun once the looming spectre of the Pats has finally dissolved. There is always new blood. We just need to keep vampire Brady away from them
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With so many young QBs sucking rear end the future of the NFL is paved on the ground through the glory of the run. Love Russell Wilson tho one of the good qbs
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EmbryoSteve posted:With so many young QBs sucking rear end the future of the NFL is paved on the ground through the glory of the run. So you'd say he's "one of the good ones?"
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Sep 17, 2019 21:32
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the nfl's generation of bad, hard-to-watch young qbs such as pat mahomes, deshaun watson, lamar jackson, jacoby brissett, and hell even gardner minshew
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Sep 17, 2019 21:33
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Tanking is cool because it fucks up the team culture so that you still can't really get good free agents and you're back to 7-9 after 4 years in the pits
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Sep 17, 2019 21:34
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PupsOfWar posted:the nfl's generation of bad, hard-to-watch young qbs such as pat mahomes, deshaun watson, lamar jackson, jacoby brissett, and hell even gardner minshew At the end of last year it seemed like most teams had some kind of answer to their QB dilemma, to the point that there wasn't even much of a trade market for Josh Rosen. But here we are two weeks in and it turns out... - Brees, Luck, Ben, Foles and Darnold are gone for the entire season or chunks of it - Trubisky, Winston, and Newton are not playing nearly as well as was hoped. That's a big part of the league that now has to rethink their QB situation.
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Sep 17, 2019 21:39
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Colts already had a good young quarterback on the bench, not much to think about. Just expectations to adjust.
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ive pointed out that gardner minshew looks like a young uncle rico, my local espn affiliate has pointed out that gardner minshew looks like a young uncle rico it bugs me that nobody in the mainstream media is acknowledging that gardner minshew looks like a young uncle rico like who is paying for this coverup bezos???
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PupsOfWar posted:weird that there are people who think eli won't get into the Hall I think it's an absolute lock. The storyline is just too good - beating the Patriots twice in the Super Bowl, Super Bowl MVP both times, with iconic big plays in each game, 18-1. His career stats are trash by HOF standards, but it won't matter.
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sean10mm posted:I think it's an absolute lock. The storyline is just too good - beating the Patriots twice in the Super Bowl, Super Bowl MVP both times, with iconic big plays in each game, 18-1. Yeah Joe Namath is in the hall. What will really suck is when Roethlisberger gets in.
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Sep 17, 2019 21:53
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Namath was a good player for his era. Eli is not.
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Nail Rat posted:Yeah Joe Namath is in the hall. What will really suck is when Roethlisberger gets in. Joe Namath was at least good in the AFL era, and Roethlisberger has always been a significantly better QB then Eli. Eli is really close to Jim Plunkett, just with the benefit of playing in New York.
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PupsOfWar posted:the nfl's generation of bad, hard-to-watch young qbs such as pat mahomes, deshaun watson, lamar jackson, jacoby brissett, and hell even gardner minshew Lamar: he's played 10 games and you're calling him the truth Brissett: lol Watson and Mahomes look like the first QBs that will stick since Russell Wilson in 2012. Everyone else I'd dead or questionable
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PupsOfWar posted:the nfl's generation of bad, hard-to-watch young qbs such as pat mahomes, deshaun watson, lamar jackson, jacoby brissett, and hell even gardner minshew Mahomes: Amazing Watson: good, but not gonna live long because what is an OL Jackson: Pump the brakes real hard here. Beating the poo poo out of the Dolphins doesn't mean much this year. Gonna need to see sustained success Brissett: Nothing special Minshew: Stash is rad. Want to believe but Jacksonville is where QBs go to die Most of the QBs in the league are bad, young and already suck, or young and going to suck because their situation is awful. Finding a QB is hard
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Eli will get in the hall but it will be a massive debate between stat-loving turbo nerds and people writing “18-1” on a dry erase board and just circling it over and over again
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Sep 17, 2019 21:58
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He’d probably be worth two 1sts if he had years left on his rookie deal. Not with a new contract though. https://twitter.com/JennaLaineESPN/status/1174062851859845121
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In best mcmagic voice: cap space is air.
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Sep 17, 2019 22:00
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no brakes on the Lamar Jackson train chooo chooooo
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Nail Rat posted:Yeah Joe Namath is in the hall. What will really suck is when Roethlisberger gets in. IIRC by some *~advanced stats*~ metrics this is a popular misconception and Joe Namath was actually very good though, which might mean he wasn't good, but still e: f; b
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Nodoze posted:
you guys cant even decide whether jared goff is good or bad how then can we surmise on the overall state of qb play in the league
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Sep 17, 2019 22:03
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Eli's first Super Bowl run was Disney movie levels of hokey bullshit and luck HoF for sure
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I wish Minshew was on the Colts
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PupsOfWar posted:you guys cant even decide whether jared goff is good or bad Goff is a mediocre QB in a great system
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Goff is a top ten QB and you will respect him
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Someone ITT literally put jacoby brisset, lamar jackson, and gardner minshew in the same breath as patrick mahomes and deshaun watson lol I love TFF.
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Goff is my very special large adult son and I don't care for the attitude and tone of this thread
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also loving lol if you don't think Eli deserves all the HoFs in the world the second after he went 2-0 on Brady's rear end. put him on MLB's, NBA's and NHL's too
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To expand on this more: Young guys: Mitch Trubs: Sucks Josh Allen: Sucks Jameis: Sucks Sam Darnold: Could be good, but also shackled to the Jets Kyler Murray: Looks really promising, hopefully he doesn't die behind that line. Jones and Haskins: TBD in the middle: Wilson: Amazing. Team doesn't know what forward pass is though Wentz: Good, can't stay healthy Jimmy: Good, hasn't stayed healthy Newton: lovely QB, good runner. Also looks cooked now because he's taken a beating Derek Carr: sucks Dak: Ok. Hovering just above the Dalton line Goff: Both good and a system QB.Good arm, 10 cent head Matt Ryan: Solidly above the Dalton line, kinda inconsistent Dalton: Definition of average Stafford: Above dalton line, kinda inconsistent. Older guys: Rodgers: Slowly declining, still good. This may change though as he escaped from Fat Mike. Cousins: Playing like poo poo this year, historically good. Ben: Hurt. Future TBD Eli: sucks, benched Brees: Hurt. Still playing at top level, but who knows what happens now with his hand injury. Brady: Still playing well, slowly declining. Also old AF PupsOfWar posted:you guys cant even decide whether jared goff is good or bad Goff is the perfect example of a system QB. He can physically make the throws, he is just an idiot. He looked like poo poo with Jeff Fisher cause well, it's Jeff Fisher. With McVay telling him what to do and where to aim the cannon the results are much better. He's also in an actual modern offense instead of whatever the 70s nonsense Jeff Fisher believes in Nodoze fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Sep 17, 2019 |
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DariusLikewise posted:Goff is my very special large adult son and I don't care for the attitude and tone of this thread Dude doesnt know how sunrises work but I wouldnt classify him as "very special" for that
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Lamar: he's played 10 games and you're calling him the truth It sucks rear end that we were robbed of like 10 more years of good RG3, Luck, and Cam by dogshit coaches/GM's/refs getting them killed. If Wentz can stay alive for 16 games he's in the Actually Good camp, imo. Hopefully he's not Sam Bradford 2.0.
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Nodoze posted:To expand on this more: Don't forget Baker, who is going to be ruined by Freddie Kitchens (I'm like 75% joking)
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Professor Funk posted:Don't forget Baker, who is going to be ruined by Freddie Kitchens Baker is really good, but this year doesn't look so hot yet. I thought Cleveland should have hired a real coach for a few reasons, but maybe the offense would still be OK. Unfortunately the offense looks like poo poo so far, and Kitchens has no control over the team and they are undisciplined as poo poo
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Mystic Stylez posted:also loving lol if you don't think Eli deserves all the HoFs in the world the second after he went 2-0 on Brady's rear end. put him on MLB's, NBA's and NHL's too also put in Julian Edelman
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eli's much better than you dorks give him credit for, but also not really deserving of the critical praise giants fans heap upon him. it'd be interesting to see how his career would have gone if he wasn't stifled by kevin gilbride's awful scheme for the duration of his prime years.
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Hell, unironically put Tim Tebow on the HoF solely on basis of the 2011-12 Wildcard Round
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https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1174067337173065728
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gently caressKalli posted:also put in
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Nodoze posted:To expand on this more: Matt Ryan is a year younger than Rodgers. Dude belongs in the olds. Otherwise yes
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Meanwhile Jimmy G just sitting in the back, banging thicc hoes.
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Kalli posted:also put in Julian Edelman as a wr or qb tho?  god drat it. I know the players don't matter but Wynn owns and apparently he's just going to be hurt forever and be another meaningless early round bust
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