I cant believe the Pats are going 16-0 again and putting up 30+ points on each team on their way there
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So the Dolphins traded away another starter, because a 102-10 point differential over the first 2 games wasn't enough I guess. https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1173780967342989318?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet I really don't get this "We have to destroy the entire team to save it" philosophy. The Dolphins have mostly been mediocre to "normal" bad, not some kind of incredibad omnishambles. Teams that looked way worse than the 7-9 2018 Dolphins turned things around quickly without just burning everything to the ground. code:
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Sep 17, 2019 13:12
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I was looking up the betting line and spread for the Browns/Rams game. I expected the Rams to be a heavy favorite there, but they are currently drat near even on those odds. Though to be fair, one site that showed how people were betting had 93% of bets on the Rams spread at -1.5. Do I not understand how they set those odds? Because Browns/Rams basically being a coinflip odds wise seems ludicrous to me. Was some oddsmaker drunk?
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Sep 17, 2019 13:17
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I think more than ever the general sentiment is that you need a decent QB to win at bare minimum in the modern NFL and that you almost certainly need to pick somewhere at least in the top 10 or higher to guarantee your best shot at getting one. So it is starting to lead to NBA style tanking, where you really want to pick super high up since the value of that one player on your franchise is so incredibly high. The idea of picking a dude later to develop on the bench for a few years as a successor seems pretty dead. Off the top of my head the only young QBs playing in the last five years that weren't Top 15 picks are Dak and I guess now Lamar (who was still a first rounder).
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Sep 17, 2019 13:18
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Zyla posted:he would be a moderate upgrade at 2nd DB and way too loving expensive for the cap Maybe I'm out of the loop but what CB the Patriots have besides Gilmore that would make Jalen loving Ramsey only a moderate upgrade?
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Sep 17, 2019 13:18
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GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:I think more than ever the general sentiment is that you need a decent QB to win at bare minimum in the modern NFL and that you almost certainly need to pick somewhere at least in the top 10 or higher to guarantee your best shot at getting one. So it is starting to lead to NBA style tanking, where you really want to pick super high up since the value of that one player on your franchise is so incredibly high. Yeah, but the Colts basically just took a year off to draft Luck, because it's easy to lose out when you... just start super bad backup QBs. The Dolphins on the other hand seem to be burning the team to the ground way beyond what's necessary to get the draft capital for a high 1st round QB.
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Sep 17, 2019 13:24
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Mystic Stylez posted:Maybe I'm out of the loop but what CB the Patriots have besides Gilmore that would make Jalen loving Ramsey only a moderate upgrade? CB is the Pats' deepest group, with 2-5 being JMac (#6 overall last year by PFF for whatever that's worth), Jon Jones (great slot they just extended), JC Jackson, and their rookie that has flashed. So yea Ramsey would be an upgrade on any of them, but there's serious diminishing returns at that point since the group is so strong overall. OT is a much bigger need right now, or edge if we're just looking at the D
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Sep 17, 2019 13:26
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sean10mm posted:So the Dolphins traded away another starter, because a 102-10 point differential over the first 2 games wasn't enough I guess. We’ve been in that 7-9 range for nearly 2 decades. At this point I think everyone just wants to try something different.
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Sep 17, 2019 13:28
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Except that the guy in charge of the rebuild has been with the team for twenty years, director of scouting since 2007 and GM for almost four years.
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Sep 17, 2019 13:33
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Brain Curry posted:Except that the guy in charge of the rebuild has been with the team for twenty years, director of scouting since 2007 and GM for almost four years. I have no idea how good or bad Grier is because I have no idea who he's actually "picked" over the course of his career because the power structure has been such a clusterfuck in Miami for so long 
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Sep 17, 2019 13:39
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Brain Curry posted:Except that the guy in charge of the rebuild has been with the team for twenty years, director of scouting since 2007 and GM for almost four years. He got full control this off-season. My understanding is he had drafts starting in 2016, but the veteran/free agency side Mike Tannenbaum kept control over until he was "reassigned" out of power. I don't think you can really say much of anything about Grier- 2016 was a very good draft, though, but if anything he probably defers too much to his coaches. They've also got Reggie McKenzie and Marvin Allen(who was the Chiefs director of college scouting during their build-up) in high positions of power.
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Sep 17, 2019 13:49
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Reggie Mckenzie was great at getting the Raiders out of cap hell, but christ the man could not draft other than the Carr/Mack/Gabe Jackson draft
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Sep 17, 2019 14:14
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I have no clue how good Grier really is. Howard was a great pick, Caroo was a debacle. Tunsil and Drake are both simultaneously good enough picks to be used to defend Grier, and mediocre enough to be traded away with no regrets. I talk to people who have convinced themselves that everything they liked was Grier, everything they disliked was Tannenbaum and all the high draft picks are guaranteed to result in a better team. I tend to think there’s a million ways for the team to gently caress this up, and I’ll wait and see before I crown us 2022 champions.
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Sep 17, 2019 14:19
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sean10mm posted:Yeah, but the Colts basically just took a year off to draft Luck, because it's easy to lose out when you... just start super bad backup QBs. The Dolphins on the other hand seem to be burning the team to the ground way beyond what's necessary to get the draft capital for a high 1st round QB. The Colts also had a pretty bad/thin roster besides Manning at the time. It was a time of vindication for Colts fans who had been decrying Chris Polian's drafts while nobody else believed the roster was bad.
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Sep 17, 2019 14:23
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Who gets benched for their backup first in their game: Tom Brady or Dak Prescott?
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Sep 17, 2019 14:38
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Android Apocalypse posted:Who gets benched for their backup first in their game: Tom Brady or Dak Prescott? Tom Brady (with a broken thumb that puts him out of the season — not that I'm rooting for injury or anything) Mystic Stylez fucked around with this message at 14:58 on Sep 17, 2019 |
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Sep 17, 2019 14:41
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Dolphins are reminding me of McDaniels in Denver, right down to the head coach being really petty about certain players.
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Sep 17, 2019 14:47
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Nosre posted:CB is the Pats' deepest group, with 2-5 being JMac (#6 overall last year by PFF for whatever that's worth), Jon Jones (great slot they just extended), JC Jackson, and their rookie that has flashed. Good news! https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1173924977269202947?s=20
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Sep 17, 2019 14:52
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sean10mm posted:So the Dolphins traded away another starter, because a 102-10 point differential over the first 2 games wasn't enough I guess. I suppose I don't get it either, but it's kinda the right thing to do with super talented players when you're planning to waste a year or two. Calvin Johnson, Barry Sanders, Stephen Jackson, so so many great players slaved away on losing teams that were always 'rebuilding'. Let them go if you're tanking for the draft. Especially in the case of a multi year tank
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Sep 17, 2019 15:06
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SKULL.GIF posted:Dolphins are reminding me of McDaniels in Denver, right down to the head coach being really petty about certain players. McDaniels won a game
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Sep 17, 2019 15:08
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wilderthanmild posted:I was looking up the betting line and spread for the Browns/Rams game. I expected the Rams to be a heavy favorite there, but they are currently drat near even on those odds. Though to be fair, one site that showed how people were betting had 93% of bets on the Rams spread at -1.5. Lines start at home team -3 by default. The Rams have uninspiring wins against Carolina and the Teddy Bridgewater-Saints. The Browns are 1-1 and still have a massive amount of preseason hype following them and showed flashes of their big play offense last night. The only way a road team gets over 3 points on the spread is if they are really blowing out teams or the home team is bottom of the barrel.
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Sep 17, 2019 15:10
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https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1173962343715418113?s=19
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Sep 17, 2019 15:11
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DANNNNNYYYY DIIIIIIMES
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Sep 17, 2019 15:13
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The MNF schedule looks real loving bad.
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Sep 17, 2019 15:14
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Shorter leash than I would have expected.
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Sep 17, 2019 15:14
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 Eli, he never scored.
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Sep 17, 2019 15:16
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Send Eli and a 1st to the Jags for Ramsey
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Sep 17, 2019 15:17
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ESPN moved a bunch of teams that won this week down in their power rankings. Checks out.
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Sep 17, 2019 15:18
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Can't wait to watch a sandpaper enema on SNF
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Sep 17, 2019 15:18
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Saving Eli the wear & tear so that when the Giants sneak into the playoffs he'll be rested to defeat the Patriots in Super Bowl LIV.
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Sep 17, 2019 15:18
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I fear my dream of a future where Brady/Brees retire before taking the TD record and Eli plays long enough to take the INT record is finally dead.
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Sep 17, 2019 15:18
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Luck retiring broke the seal and now all QBs must suffer.
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Sep 17, 2019 15:22
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Already?
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Sep 17, 2019 15:22
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SKULL.GIF posted:Already? I mean, he should have been starting 2 games ago
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Sep 17, 2019 15:23
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drat I want Eli to get the INT record
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Sep 17, 2019 15:23
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Nodoze posted:drat I want Eli to get the INT record Eli's too boring to deserve that record. It will remain rightfully in the hands of the Funslinger.
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Sep 17, 2019 15:24
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Reposting cause at least something funny came from all this. Pittsburgh Doctor Claims Antonio Brown Repeatedly Farted In His Face, Owes Him $11,500 quote:“It seemed just childish to me,” Prisk told Sports Illustrated. “I’m a doctor and this man is farting in my face.”
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Sep 17, 2019 15:25
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He's loving awful. Seriously, I think he was in the top 5 worst rated lineman in the league last year.
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Sep 17, 2019 15:26
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https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/1173961282590072832
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Sep 17, 2019 15:26
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SKULL.GIF posted:Eli's too boring to deserve that record. It will remain rightfully in the hands of the Funslinger. 2 counter points: Peyton TD record, Eli INT record is hilarious Imagine it happening and a little graphic is plays showing he just broke the record while he makes that Eli Manning face.
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