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Wasted space? I defy you to find a better use of space than Xenomorphs lounging on my titlebar.
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Zlodo posted:the kde5 migration to qt5 was a clusterfuck for the first few point releases, mostly plasma making GBS threads itself in various ways it was fine for me i had zero qt5-migration related problems maybe because i relied on the distribution packaging?
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Sep 17, 2019 21:32
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Athas posted:How come those late 90s and early 2000s Linux desktops (like that KDE) wasted so much space, given that monitors and resolutions were smaller in those days? GNOME didn't have those garish window decorations IIRC, but it did have strangely huge desktop icons. screens weren't that much smaller the de facto standard size of a unix desktop, starting in the early 1980s, was 1152x900 on a 19" screen. some were even higher resolution, but almost never lower there was never a time when unix workstations commonly had 640x480 resolution or 14" monitors, so kde and gnome didn't spend a lot of time thinking about that kind of thing
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Sep 17, 2019 21:34
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Dielectric posted:Wasted space? I defy you to find a better use of space than Xenomorphs lounging on my titlebar. linux does what windoesnt
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Sep 17, 2019 21:34
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I still have a soft spot in my heart for old riced-out GNOME 2 environments. It was a different, more innocent time. Blueheart window decorations + Blue Steel pixmap theme 
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Sep 17, 2019 21:54
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:screens weren't that much smaller KDE and Gnome never primarily targetted big boy Unix workstations dude, their primary focus was always Linux on PCs. That said by the time they got going even PCs would at least rock 1024x768, we arent talking 1990 here. Source: literally a KDE developer myself circa 1998 feedmegin fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Sep 17, 2019 |
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Sep 17, 2019 21:59
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feedmegin posted:KDE and Gnome never primarily targetted big boy Unix workstations dude, their primary focus was always Linux on PCs. That said by the time they got going even PCs would at least rock 1024x768, we arent talking 1990 here. eh you could get a graphics board for a pc to drive a unix monitor and it wasn't insanely expensive that was kind of number9 graphics gimmick. not an accident that they were one of the first well-supported drivers under linux...
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Sep 17, 2019 22:04
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Sapozhnik posted:I still have a soft spot in my heart for old riced-out GNOME 2 environments. It was a different, more innocent time. gnome 2 was legitimately better than gnome 3
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Sep 17, 2019 22:05
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Dielectric posted:Wasted space? I defy you to find a better use of space than Xenomorphs lounging on my titlebar. lol
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Sep 17, 2019 22:07
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:eh you could get a graphics board for a pc to drive a unix monitor and it wasn't insanely expensive Or you could just buy a nice Trinitron with a VGA connector. It's not like Unix vendors had Secret Monitor Tech and enough people were doing eg professional DTP on Macs and PCs that gear was available. The high water mark for UNIX workstations is the late 80s and early 90s anyway, the whole reason Linux eats their lunch in the late 90s is that consumer PCs are now close to performance competitive and also dirt cheap.
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Sep 17, 2019 22:10
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feedmegin posted:Or you could just buy a nice Trinitron with a VGA connector. It's not like Unix vendors had Secret Monitor Tech and enough people were doing eg professional DTP on Macs and PCs that gear was available. The high water mark for UNIX workstations is the late 80s and early 90s anyway, well at the time the way to get a cheap trinitron was university surplus, and they would be wired with the wrong fuckin plug a brand new 19" trinitron was like $2 grand back in the day feedmegin posted:the whole reason Linux eats their lunch in the late 90s is that consumer PCs are now close to performance competitive and also dirt cheap. yeah, a 400 MHz pentium II was about 1/2 the speed of a 500 MHz UltraSPARC IIi, but 1/5th to 1/10th the price fuckin obliterated low-end unix poo poo
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Sep 17, 2019 22:15
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Dielectric posted:Wasted space? I defy you to find a better use of space than Xenomorphs lounging on my titlebar. e16 ruled. that was my main wm forever. then e17 came out and poo poo hit the fan so I stopped using it after getting used to other WMs. haven't really touched it since
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Sep 17, 2019 22:28
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Dielectric posted:Wasted space? I defy you to find a better use of space than Xenomorphs lounging on my titlebar. hell yes
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Sep 17, 2019 22:28
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:gnome 2 was legitimately better than gnome 3 no dude. just no    :dogestare: :scared: :omg:
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Sep 17, 2019 22:30
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Joe Mama Poonana posted:e16 ruled. that was my main wm forever. then e17 came out and poo poo hit the fan so I stopped using it after getting used to other WMs. haven't really touched it since you haven't missed anything the e17 guy now works for samsung to make android clone software based on the enlightenment libs
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Sep 17, 2019 22:41
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:you haven't missed anything And last time I looked at it it was impressively horrible
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Sep 17, 2019 22:57
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:it was fine for me lol i was expecting the "you're holding it wrong" and here it is i did rely on distro packaging as well
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Sep 17, 2019 23:03
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people unironically using kde in 2019 
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Sep 17, 2019 23:05
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that reminds me I never did give the open sourced cde a proper try. maybe it is finally time to return to linux for my daily driver
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Sep 17, 2019 23:08
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pram posted:people unironically using kde in 2019 i prefer to develop my hobby poo poo in a linux and kde is the least lovely desktop there
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Sep 17, 2019 23:13
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:you haven't missed anything rasterman is cool tho his poo poo was faaaaast
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Sep 17, 2019 23:16
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Zlodo posted:i prefer to develop my hobby poo poo in a linux and kde is the least lovely desktop there Gnome 3 is way better.
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Sep 17, 2019 23:26
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i like mate on linux, it's basically just modern gnome 2
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Sep 17, 2019 23:39
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Same. Gets the job done fine on my ancient laptop.
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Sep 17, 2019 23:49
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:rasterman is cool tho do i got to post a link to the dailywtf article about efl again
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Sep 17, 2019 23:57
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why is kde still so ugly after all this time. why has no-one come along and made it not ugly.
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Sep 18, 2019 00:02
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Sapozhnik posted:do i got to post a link to the dailywtf article about efl again you know you want to
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Sep 18, 2019 00:03
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josh04 posted:why is kde still so ugly after all this time. why has no-one come along and made it not ugly. 5 looks way better than 4 ever did 4 looked like the kind of stuff you get from a 15 year old with a warezed copy of photoshop who sits in a dark room all day and looking at it was depressing
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Sep 18, 2019 00:15
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feedmegin posted:And last time I looked at it it was impressively horrible I'm shocked that the guy who spent a decade on a pointless replacement that wouldn't compile if you looked at it wrong is making bad software
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Sep 18, 2019 01:12
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psiox posted:i haven't used kde in so long that it surprises me to hear they still have releases I tried kde plasma as a casual desktop linux man and found it very poor compared to ubuntu/gnome. half of the packages installed from the included manager did not launch.
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Sep 18, 2019 01:18
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a friend of mine keeps trying to get me to install deepin linux and going on about how flawless it is. maybe the ccp hacked his brain
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Sep 18, 2019 01:27
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I feel like giant icons and window margins were acceptable on linux DEs because they generally all had multiple desktops, versus windows where you were stuck with it
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Sep 18, 2019 01:36
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I never had to use a file manager. KDE comes with "dolphin" now which is funny
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Sep 18, 2019 01:51
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use ranger. the vim of file managers
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Sep 18, 2019 01:55
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Amethyst posted:use ranger. the vim of file managers the default mode when you open it doesn't manage files?
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Sep 18, 2019 02:47
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so it seems safe to assume the only people who really undestand efl/tizen work for intelligence agencies
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Sep 18, 2019 02:53
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Back in the day I worked with my friend to create kroller, a MacOS dock clone for KDE. It was even on kde-look.org. I also used FVWM. Now I just use stock gnome3.
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Sep 18, 2019 03:22
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all this spergin' is giving me linux desktop lust
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Sep 18, 2019 03:28
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that's gnu/linux desktop lust to you, pal
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am i just imagining that i had a 1600x1200 crt before lcds came around and hosed up resolutions for 15 years? i could have sworn that screen resolutions are only just now catching up to what they were in 2003
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