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Professor Funk posted:Someone ITT literally put jacoby brisset, lamar jackson, and gardner minshew in the same breath as patrick mahomes and deshaun watson lol I mean it was in a listing of General young talent you don’t need to mention Mahones as some special thing every time you speak his name
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CharlestheHammer posted:I mean it was in a listing of General young talent you don’t need to mention Mahones as some special thing every time you udder his name I saw this post pre-edit, buddy
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Sep 17, 2019 22:25
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Huh somehow Matt Stafford is only 31, coulda sworn he was like 35
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N: https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1173780967342989318 V: Steelers giving up a potential top 5 pick for a slot corner that needs work. I approve.
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Sep 17, 2019 22:26
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AndrewP posted:Huh somehow Matt Stafford is only 31, coulda sworn he was like 35 Yeah Staff is stupidly young considering how long he's been in the league (drafted in 2009).
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Sep 17, 2019 22:28
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The Puppy Bowl posted:OLD N: https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1173780967342989318 fixed this
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Sep 17, 2019 22:31
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Docjowles posted:god drat it. I know the players don't matter but Wynn owns and apparently he's just going to be hurt forever and be another meaningless early round bust Now will they somehow trade for Trent Williams, or just mold a new tackle out of clay?
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Sep 17, 2019 22:34
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Kalli posted:Now will they somehow trade for Trent Williams, or just mold a new tackle out of clay? I have no idea how they’d fit Trent’s cap number.
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Sep 17, 2019 22:36
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I have no idea how they’d fit Trent’s cap number. Bill Belichick
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Kalli posted:Now will they somehow trade for Trent Williams, or just mold a new tackle out of clay? You already know it's the latter. Scarnecchia just threw another sack full of beautiful virgin kittens and puppies into a bonfire as sacrifice to begin the ancient rituals.
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Sep 17, 2019 22:38
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Nodoze posted:To expand on this more:
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Sep 17, 2019 22:38
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Rivers: Bound for the Hall of Fame (of loving)
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Watson and Mahomes look like the first QBs that will stick since Russell Wilson in 2012. Everyone else I'd dead or questionable Yep, and the pickings have been real slim in some of those years. 2013: EJ Manuel, Geno Smith, Mike Glennon... the worst QB draft in history maybe 2014: Teddy Bridgewater, Johnny Manziel, Aaron Murray, AJ McCarron, Zach Mettenberger, Blake Bortles, Derek Carr, Tom Savage... several of these guys I only know from the AAF and they're all terrible besides Carr who is mediocre 2015: Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariota, Brett Hundley, a bunch of nobodies... the results speak for themselves here, Hundley's been traded around teams, Mariota and Winston have been kept for lack of better options and because they are on their rookie deals. Never going to be more than mediocre 2016: Wentz, Goff, Dak, Brissett. Some decent options here, nothing amazing but overall an uptick So that's a period of four years during which only three guys have been awarded new deals as franchise quarterback, and they all came from 2016. When it takes that long to get a single franchise quarterback for a single team, no surprise we're running low now that the olds are dying quote:Rivers: Bound for the Hall of Fame (of loving) It's called the Hall of F . . . . . . . ucking
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Sep 17, 2019 22:45
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The Eli Manning Giants are the most wildly inconsistent team in the universe. Every week it was unclear whether they were going to go off or poo poo the joint up. He won regular season games exactly 50% of the time. He and his fired coach have two rings over the Patriots, one of which was over the God's Destiny team with an air attack that was probably scarier than Montana/Rice.
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Play posted:2016: Wentz, Goff, Dak, Brissett. Some decent options here, nothing amazing but overall an uptick Maybe some pedantry on my part here, but "some decent options here" strikes me as quite the undersell.
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Sodomy Hussein posted:The Eli Manning Giants are the most wildly inconsistent team in the universe. Every week it was unclear whether they were going to go off or poo poo the joint up. He won regular season games exactly 50% of the time. He and his fired coach have two rings over the Patriots, one of which was over the God's Destiny team with an air attack that was probably scarier than Montana/Rice. basically, eli was absolutely average, but with hilariously high variance the highest of highs, the lowest of lows
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PupsOfWar posted:ive pointed out that gardner minshew looks like a young uncle rico, my local espn affiliate has pointed out that gardner minshew looks like a young uncle rico I mean he even went to Pullman which is 8 miles from the Idaho border
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Sep 17, 2019 22:50
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thank you browns and jets for making other teams feel a lot better about themselves
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Thought experiment: 32 Patrick Mahomes, each assigned to a team, or 32 Andy Reids, each assigned to a team. Which results in better offensive play?
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Sep 17, 2019 22:53
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Kalli posted:Thought experiment: 32 Patrick Mahomes, each assigned to a team, or 32 Andy Reids, each assigned to a team. Which results in better offensive play? andy reid's probably harder to bring down because he's fat
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Play posted:Yep, and the pickings have been real slim in some of those years. I mean we should take it back further. Purposely stopping before Rodgers and Alex Smith who are certifiable old men. There's just such a derth of talent. 2011: Cam (RIP) and The Andy Dalton Line 2010: Bradford had a minute 2009: Stafford 2008: Matt Ryan 2007: The Jamarcus Russell Dead Zone 2006: Smoking Jay Cutler
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Kalli posted:Thought experiment: 32 Patrick Mahomes, each assigned to a team, or 32 Andy Reids, each assigned to a team. Which results in better offensive play? The only thing coming down is all the local rib joints in the towns they visit after all the Andy's visits ribmaps.com
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Also I'm pretty sure in the world of 32 x Tim Tebows vs 32 x Brian Schottenheimers, we'd get better play out of the Teebsters.
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There are apparently 10 worse teams than the Jets by DVOA including the Chargers, Steelers and the Saints. We’re still in it baby.
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fsif posted:Maybe some pedantry on my part here, but "some decent options here" strikes me as quite the undersell. Maybe you're right, but given Wentz's injury history, Goff's seeming dependency on McVay's scheme and Dak's quarterback play leading up to this season, it's a little early to proclaim anything. That being said, all three of those guys have received or are about to receive new contracts, putting them on a higher level than anyone else in all those years I covered Kalli posted:Thought experiment: 32 Patrick Mahomes, each assigned to a team, or 32 Andy Reids, each assigned to a team. Which results in better offensive play? Mahomes. I believe he could succeed to a certain level no matter what team he was on. Andy is a great play caller but we saw in the Alex Smith years that even he can't force a mediocre quarterback to win playoff games. Meanwhile, put Mahomes on the Bills (for example) and they're a playoff team right away, maybe even better
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Maaaaaybe one of those losses was even partially Alex Smith's fault, dude (home vs. Pittsburgh). The rest he scored 44 points and then everyone on offense except him and the shambling animated corpse of Dwayne Bowe died; the magnum opus of the Andy Reid Clock Management Experience; and Mariota2Mariota where fate would not be denied (also: forward progress my rear end). Smith was not the problem in those games.
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Alex Smith May have won a super bowl if that punt hadn’t been muffed
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Thanks thread for reminding me we live in a world where people thought it was a good idea to draft E.J. Manuel with a mid-first round pick
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The Puppy Bowl posted:N: https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1173780967342989318 I mean he doesn't really need work as a slot corner, he was arguably the best in the NFL as a rookie and is maybe the best screen defender in the NFL. The question is how do you get him on the field on a position whose presence on the field is dictated by offensive formation choice(and the answer cannot apparently be a position that has a gap responsibility in the run game)
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Strobe posted:Maaaaaybe one of those losses was even partially Alex Smith's fault, dude (home vs. Pittsburgh). The rest he scored 44 points and then everyone on offense except him and the shambling animated corpse of Dwayne Bowe died; the magnum opus of the Andy Reid Clock Management Experience; and Mariota2Mariota where fate would not be denied (also: forward progress my rear end). Okay, so then responsibility falls to Reid as the head coach and the overall point (that Mahomes would bring more to most teams than Reid) stands It's a pretty dumb hypothetical though. Unless anyone ACTUALLY has access to an illegal chinese cloning vat, in which case I'd say Mahomes deserves to be first in line among all humans
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Play posted:Okay, so then responsibility falls to Reid as the head coach and the overall point (that Mahomes would bring more to most teams than Reid) stands Even then, the loss against the Patriots is the only one I'd characterize as Andy's fault. How do you coach your way out of "Andrew Luck FUMBLE recovered by Andrew Luck for a TOUCHDOWN" and "Marcus Mariota pass short left to <who cares>, deflected, caught by Marcus Mariota for a TOUCHDOWN". I'm not particularly superstitious but the inevitability of those plays working against all odds was loving heartbreaking.
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Strobe posted:Even then, the loss against the Patriots is the only one I'd characterize as Andy's fault. How do you coach your way out of "Andrew Luck FUMBLE recovered by Andrew Luck for a TOUCHDOWN" and "Marcus Mariota pass short left to <who cares>, deflected, caught by Marcus Mariota for a TOUCHDOWN". He employed the wrong people to run his defenses because he's a kindhearted, loyal person. I thought that was understood on some level. Sure you can't stop the deflected pass maybe, but you can make a stop on the touchdown drives immediately preceding and following. Hell it's not a stretch to say that they very well may have won the super bowl last year if he had moved on from Sutton a bit earlier. I can't believe I'm condemning a guy for being loyal and kind-hearted, but this is what football does to me
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Part of it is that in his formative head coaching years in Philly the defense was well handled by his friend Jim Johnson, who he just left alone. I think he tried the same with Sutton
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Its Rinaldo posted:Alex Smith May have won a super bowl if that punt hadn’t been muffed "Alex Smith would have won a super bowl if Ted Ginn had been healthy" is both an insanely funny sentence and a factually correct one
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a neat cape posted:I'm offended at the Philip omission oops. Rivers is still good, but getting old 
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Kalli posted:Thought experiment: 32 Patrick Mahomes, each assigned to a team, or 32 Andy Reids, each assigned to a team. Which results in better offensive play? Andy Reid because look what he did with Alex Smith lol. Mahomes would be handing off on some teams, or running for his life on others
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lots of qb talk forgetting about Elite™ Superbowl Champion Joe Flacco
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Speaking of future Hall of Famers it’s basically a prophecy that Luke Falk is the next goat. https://twitter.com/ringer/status/1174094445303582722
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Dutchy posted:"Alex Smith would have won a super bowl if Ted Ginn had been healthy" is both an insanely funny sentence and a factually correct one Mark Sanchez would've won a super bowl if shonne greene had been healthy 
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Dre2Dee2 posted:Mark Sanchez would've won a super bowl if shonne greene had been healthy Would have been clowned on by Rodgers in the Super Bowl.
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