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I once tried to spend a Scottish £1 note in a shop in London. “It’s Scottish money, that’s okay, right?” I said, and the guy looked a bit confused but then said “oh sure, of course.” He gave me £4 change. E: According to Wikipedia, in 1250, the first use in English of the word “cuckold” was recorded. Birth of the cuck. Comrade Fakename fucked around with this message at 11:01 on Sep 18, 2019 |
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Junior G-man posted:Also what are "Higher Laws"? Thermodynamics?
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Sep 18, 2019 10:59
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Junior G-man posted:Jo Maugham is off on a real one: What can one do against such reckless stupidity
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Sep 18, 2019 10:59
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Junior G-man posted:Also what are "Higher Laws"? God.
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Sep 18, 2019 10:59
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Junior G-man posted:Also what are "Higher Laws"? I imagine he’s referring to the CJEU having jurisdiction on matters of European law, but it’s pretty reductive and Brexiteer-esque to refer to that as “higher law”
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Sep 18, 2019 11:01
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God drat do I hate that smarmy oval office Jo Maugham.
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Sep 18, 2019 11:01
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How does holding a Jam Granddad second referendum 'free Corbyn from the only laws that tie the hands of Governments of all colours'? What is this? Is it a Brexit referendum that secretly also makes him God Emperor of the UK Socialist Empire? Is that what He Has Planned For Us?
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Sep 18, 2019 11:02
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If leaving the EU allows Corbyn to create unlimited energy machines then why haven't we left already? Alternatively there's a high concept sci-fi plot here about time travellers having to interfere in human history to stop the development of the infinite energy machines before we reach communism or else we'd boil ourselves to death from the waste heat of everyone using them all the time for profit. Bitcoin was a near extinction level event, is what I'm saying.
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Sep 18, 2019 11:07
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The auto subtitling on the suspension has just declared “we are asked to opine on parliament solvent free”. Mores the pity
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Sep 18, 2019 11:07
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Junior G-man posted:Also what are "Higher Laws"?
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Sep 18, 2019 11:11
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Guavanaut posted:Henry David Thoreau wasn't it? Yeah, but Thoreau's writing about the fact that reason and choice puts us above the animals - the Higher Law is about us having more than base intelligence. Also about being an insufferable prick who insults a nice lady who wants to give him a cup of tea. Does Maugham mean that being pro 2nd referendum makes Corbyn like an animal?
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Sep 18, 2019 11:15
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 "I only wanted to offer him tea."
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Sep 18, 2019 11:16
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Comrade Fakename posted:I once tried to spend a Scottish £1 note in a shop in London. “It’s Scottish money, that’s okay, right?” I said, and the guy looked a bit confused but then said “oh sure, of course.” I haven't seen a £1 note in years. Kinda wished I'd kept some, but spending them in England was too much fun.
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Sep 18, 2019 11:18
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Guavanaut posted:I blame Pro-Lifers for most of this. Like going back to when my grandma was young, nobody would consider an early miscarriage to be a 'pregnancy loss' and the only people who gave a toss about when life began was the Pope and his lot and their ideological pervert counterparts in the Calvinists, plus the odd judge hemming and hawing about whether the Offences Against the Person Act 1861 covered herbal teas. Ordinary people didn't seem to much care. Part of that was due to appallingly bad sex education and poorer health outcomes, but another part was due to the large number of people trying to end pregnancies by drinking gin and jumping backwards off the kitchen sink or drinking pennyroyal in the absence of reliable contraception. So I don't want to get into an argument or anything because I think you're a cool poster and I've only secondhand experience in this area, but I really, really disagree with the premise of this even if I agree with you that pro-lifers and such have a lot to answer for. Partly I take issue with the implication that "people in the past didn't care, so we shouldn't either," because the first part is arguable empirically and the second part is extremely problematic philosophically. But more than that I think the idea that the whole issue is a vestigial hangup from religion underplays and fundamentally misunderstands the emotional and psychological effects of wanting to be a parent and believing that you are going to be a parent. I'd say it's not about "when life begins" or even the "value of life" or anything like that, but rather that being/becoming a parent can have a deeply-rooted impact on people's identity, their sense of self and their sense of their relation to the world and other people, and this is something that we should be mindful of. I wrote the above before reading the thread, and Rarity put it much better than I did: Rarity posted:LL, I'm really sorry to hear about what you've been for. It's totally understandable that you'll be grieving for a while. Please don't be afraid of reaching out for support if you need it. Someone mentioned support groups which are a good idea and you'd be welcome in any grief group.
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Junior G-man posted:Also what are "Higher Laws"? 
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Sep 18, 2019 11:20
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I really don't understand the FBPE Twitter meltdowns about Corbyn's Brexit referendum proposal. I think Labour have been pretty poo poo on Brexit for the last three years, but this is finally a very clearly stated and reasonable plan. Purely anecdotal, but from discussions at my extremely pro-Remain workplace a lot of people are instinctively quite uncomfortable with the Lib Dem plan to unilaterally cancel Brexit.
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Sep 18, 2019 11:21
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Red Oktober posted:The auto subtitling on the suspension has just declared “we are asked to opine on parliament solvent free”. Mores the pity Obi-Wan Jenobi says 
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Sep 18, 2019 11:26
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'Corbyn might have the power to do what he wants, without obstruction!' Jo yells, after 12 months of a Tory government repeatedly breaking parliamentary convention leading up to an executive that will literally break the law to gently caress the country, most likely facing no consequence for doing so.
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Sep 18, 2019 11:29
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Junior G-man posted:Socialist Empire Um
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Sep 18, 2019 11:30
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Niric posted:So I don't want to get into an argument or anything because I think you're a cool poster and I've only secondhand experience in this area, but I really, really disagree with the premise of this even if I agree with you that pro-lifers and such have a lot to answer for. Partly I take issue with the implication that "people in the past didn't care, so we shouldn't either," because the first part is arguable empirically and the second part is extremely problematic philosophically. But more than that I think the idea that the whole issue is a vestigial hangup from religion underplays and fundamentally misunderstands the emotional and psychological effects of wanting to be a parent and believing that you are going to be a parent. I'd say it's not about "when life begins" or even the "value of life" or anything like that, but rather that being/becoming a parent can have a deeply-rooted impact on people's identity, their sense of self and their sense of their relation to the world and other people, and this is something that we should be mindful of. Which isn't to invalidate any of the feelings that anyone might be having, of course there's a whole lot of other feelings of loss, of what could have been, and of course people should be supported through that, but over the past few decades the pro-life set has, for various ends, tried to shift the narrative in ways that I consider very negative, and which has increased the sense of personal fault. These are the same pricks that helicopter in whenever a judge says that an infant can be taken off of NHS life support, and that does nothing but increase pain and grief in a similar way. Corbyn's going to do a social imperialism. 
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Sep 18, 2019 11:38
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Guavanaut posted:Corbyn's going to do a social imperialism. I would welcome the jackbooted thugs and tanks of the British Soviet Empire rolling through my street, tbh.
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Sep 18, 2019 11:41
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Social democratic empire, which is entirely possible and, according to some theorists, required!
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Sep 18, 2019 11:41
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Literally the Soviet Union
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Sep 18, 2019 11:48
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*continual chain of Lenin accusing the European welfare states of being social imperialist, Mao accusing the Soviet empire of being social imperialist, the Communist Party of India (Maoist) accusing China of being social imperialist, and so on.* Maybe the real social imperialists were the friends we made along the way.
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Sep 18, 2019 11:53
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Purple Prince posted:Literally the Soviet Union Um
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Sep 18, 2019 11:56
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I know that when I worked in McDonalds way back in the day (like 1996-2001 back in the day) the company made us stop taking scottish notes because we were being given so many fakes
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Sep 18, 2019 12:00
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Would venture 'socialist' is more controversial than 'empire' for the USSR. 
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Sep 18, 2019 12:01
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Also they don't have a chance in hell of ever being in a position to do so So it's just a fantasy to try to out remain labour so they can then go into coalitiin with the tories
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Sep 18, 2019 12:07
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Purple Prince posted:Would venture 'socialist' is more controversial than 'empire' for the USSR. What's a venture socialist? 
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Sep 18, 2019 12:11
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Wachter posted:What's a venture socialist?
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Sep 18, 2019 12:13
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The Venture Comrades
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Sep 18, 2019 12:16
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:I know that when I worked in McDonalds way back in the day (like 1996-2001 back in the day) the company made us stop taking scottish notes because we were being given so many fakes The no true Scots' money fallacy?
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Purple Prince posted:Would venture 'socialist' is more controversial than 'empire' for the USSR. Yes that's my point.
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:I know that when I worked in McDonalds way back in the day (like 1996-2001 back in the day) the company made us stop taking scottish notes because we were being given so many fakes There are more fake £1 coins in circulation than there are fake Scottish notes of every denomination combined. The £1 note hasn't been in mainstream circulation since 2001, but if you want one for sentimental value the Royal Bank of Scotland - and only the RBS - still issue them in limited numbers.
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Sep 18, 2019 12:28
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The Miscarriage Association are good people an offer support to grieving families. I can't know what your going through but I can sympathise.
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Sep 18, 2019 12:30
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I truly believe that there is no way to topple the right wing/liberal bullshit that has our country strangled without actual civil war now, and I wouldn't fancy the left's chances in that. The public are not bright and have been severely indoctrinated with bullshit for so many years, there are a lot of empty vessels wandering around without the grey matter to look at things objectively and cognitive dissonance has them blind. This really gets me down. I'm glad I have therapy to help but it feels like it doesn't quite cut it, humanity needs a severe existential boot to the groin
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Sep 18, 2019 12:31
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Jedit posted:There are more fake £1 coins in circulation than there are fake Scottish notes of every denomination combined. ...not any more there aren't. As far as we know the coin redesign has been successful in putting the price of faking high enough nobody's bothering.
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Sep 18, 2019 12:34
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And then in 5 years time it turns out that the government allowed the mint to sell the spare planchets to eSwatini and the whole affair repeats again.
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Sep 18, 2019 12:37
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Guavanaut posted:And then in 5 years time it turns out that the government allowed the mint to sell the spare planchets to eSwatini and the whole affair repeats again. That planchet thing is another of those weird urban myths where a tiny part of the story is assumed to be the entirety of it. They *were* used as slugs (i.e. blank "coins" that can fool vending machines) on a very small scale, but they're basically useless for making fake coins if you want to make a profit on them. If you're counterfeiting coins you're looking to use the cheapest, softest possible metal that will pass an automated counter and survive long enough in circulation to make the point of origin impossible to trace. Plain lead and gold paint was used at first, then various alloys and electroplating, and towards the end they were using a pretty sophisticated bell metal alloy that was really difficult to detect. Putting your fakes on proper planchets is self-defeating because you have to have a much, much higher-grade die (and replace it much more often), a much more sophisticated coin press (fakes are normally punched straight from the sheet), plus of course you're paying a way higher cost for your raw materials.
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The Swazi lilangeni weren't being used to make fake pounds as much as they were being bought for their face value of 8p and used in vending machines, where they'd pass because they were exactly the same planchet as a pound coin. They'd have to be counted as 'fakes taken out of circulation' because the vending machine companies would open the cash box and go "gently caress's sake."  when it happens to fruit machines though because gently caress them.
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