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lol the racism was a feature, not a bug https://twitter.com/elivalley/status/1174162431146373120?s=20
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# ? Sep 18, 2019 05:15 |
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# ? May 23, 2024 16:19 |
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It's way too late to pretend you don't have a liberal bias after Mueller Christmas.
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# ? Sep 18, 2019 05:21 |
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Echo Chamber posted:lol the racism was a feature, not a bug quote:Gillis’ comments have drawn mixed reactions from the comedy community. People like Jimmy O. Yang and W. Kamau Bell have publicly condemned him, while David Spade, Bill Burr, and Jim Jefferies defended him during a panel on Spade’s Comedy Central late-night series on Monday night. lol
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# ? Sep 18, 2019 05:24 |
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just spitballing here but if they want to be seen as less liberal making fun of democrats would seem like a better way of doing that than hiring a guy who makes chink jokes
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# ? Sep 18, 2019 05:42 |
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reducing shane gillis' comedic career to "guy that makes chink" jokes is such a simplistic badfaith argument. matt and shane mock people from all walks of life, not just chinks. smdh
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# ? Sep 18, 2019 06:07 |
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SNL sucks, but gently caress that chud and gently caress Lorne Michaels
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# ? Sep 18, 2019 06:15 |
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alec baldwins corpulent and generally hideous trump probably wouldnt have stood out that much if they hadnt cast hillary as an attractive woman half the real hillarys age and then proceeded to treat her so sympathetically that we got this weird as hell moment after the election https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG-_ZDrypec
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# ? Sep 18, 2019 09:10 |
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remember that one 2008 SNL skit where the whole point was "the media was BIASED... [dramatic pause] against hillary" and then all the pundits in the media started wanking off to it for a week or so?
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# ? Sep 18, 2019 13:18 |
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nobody came out of this looking good, especially not the snitch who not only is painfully unfunny but advocates for a "comedy union." i guess he's a union guy as much as cops are
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# ? Sep 18, 2019 13:59 |
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yang promised to reach out to shane gillis gotta wonder if hes rethinking this beer summit idea since its the thing most likely to piss of his base of asian american liberals https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/status/1173713011174977543?p=v
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# ? Sep 18, 2019 15:34 |
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Some Guy TT posted:yang promised to reach out to shane gillis gotta wonder if hes rethinking this beer summit idea since its the thing most likely to piss of his base of asian american liberals yang doesn't have a base. he has fans. he's not a serious candidate, just a guy looking to stroke his ego and get some name recognition for whatever his next big venture is
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# ? Sep 18, 2019 15:37 |
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Sarah Silverman, Who Did Blackface, Doesn’t Think You Should ‘Cancel’ Peoplequote:With these incidents in mind, the comments she made Monday to the Los Angeles Times about the 2019 climate surrounding comedy didn't come as a huge shock. She told the publication, "I also think it’s interesting what’s happened on the left. It’s almost like there’s a mutated McCarthy era, where any comic better watch anything they say." She brings up criticism of Dave Chappelle's latest special as an example of this mutated McCarthy era. (During the actual McCarthy era, hundreds were imprisoned and thousands lost their jobs as a result of investigations carried out by the House Un-American Activities Committee. Chappelle is a highly successful comedian with lucrative Netflix specials and sold-out tours, who is receiving the John F. Kennedy Center's Mark Twain Prize for American Humor in October.)
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# ? Sep 18, 2019 15:47 |
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the blackface in question is from an episode of The Sarah Silverman Program where she makes a bet with a black guy about who has it worse in society: black people or Jews. so to walk a mile in his shoes, she walks around in blackface, which, as you might expect, causes people to get mad at her. at the end of the episode you find out that the black guy is walking around as a Jewish caricature. it was a funny, if crude, take on race relations but this is Vice, where context and the basic concepts of comedy don't matter because they have to find a problem with everything. i guess they'd rather watch a program like Insecure that spells poo poo out for them like the children they are get that OUT of my face has issued a correction as of 16:00 on Sep 18, 2019 |
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Serf posted:yang doesn't have a base. he has fans. he's not a serious candidate, just a guy looking to stroke his ego and get some name recognition for whatever his next big venture is and yet hes consistently polling at or above the level of any candidate outside the big three not disagreeing with you by the way i just think thats really funny
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# ? Sep 18, 2019 15:58 |
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I'm on Team "Sarah Silverman sucks". I pretty much hate most comedians who simultaneously whine about the PC police and brand themselves members of the McResistance.
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# ? Sep 18, 2019 16:05 |
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Echo Chamber posted:I'm on Team "Sarah Silverman sucks". https://twitter.com/liz_franczak/status/1153828637470162945
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# ? Sep 18, 2019 16:10 |
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weird to think that in the old days comics used to be worried about selling out now its what if people get mad at my edgy uniqueness and prevent me from selling out
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# ? Sep 18, 2019 16:13 |
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Some Guy TT posted:weird to think that in the old days comics used to be worried about selling out
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# ? Sep 18, 2019 16:14 |
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I really think the Bush and Obama years have really given comedians an inflated sense of the "worth of comedy" and they need to shut the gently caress up about "PC Culture ruining comedy" one heard that line my whole life. The only thinking ruining comedy is the self important view of it and the dignation that comedy millionaires get when their bits from 2004 haven't aged well. Though a comedy union is a good idea, they are majorly exploited by club owners, especially the unsuccessful ones, or the guys that will never hit it big KomradeX has issued a correction as of 16:54 on Sep 18, 2019 |
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Echo Chamber posted:I'm on Team "Sarah Silverman sucks". Remember her yelling at the Bernie people at the DNC in 2016? I sure do
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# ? Sep 18, 2019 16:29 |
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KomradeX posted:I really think the Bush and Obama years have really given comedians an inflated sense of the "worth of comedy" and they need to shut the gently caress up about "PC Culture ruining comedy" one heard that line my whole life. The only thinking ruining comedy is the self important view of it and the dignation that comedy millionaires get when their bits from 2004 handset agreed well. get that OUT of my face has issued a correction as of 16:34 on Sep 18, 2019 |
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get that OUT of my face posted:i can get on board with this. also: comedy is being viewed from the same lens as it was after Jon Stewart went on Crossfire in 2004. back then it worked because we were in a post-9/11 society where people were too afraid to say anything contrary to the George W Bush line, so it was a breath of fresh air to see a smartass tell pundits that they're full of poo poo. it's brutally obvious that it hasn't worked in a while And they'll never let that go of that because Jon Stewart shaming Crossfire off the air was the high water mark of Stand up Comedy. I actually think the era of stand up comedy is over, not because of "PC culture liberals" but just the amount of ways people can get comedy, from YouTube to podcasts I thunk is changing it. Hell stand up comedy as it is now is little more than an off shoot of part of a Vaudeville show that started to come into its own in the 1950s and didn't hit big until the Boom years of the 1980s and 90s. The "profession" is either going to die out or just get reabsorbed into being part of other entertainment
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# ? Sep 18, 2019 17:09 |
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KomradeX posted:And they'll never let that go of that because Jon Stewart shaming Crossfire off the air was the high water mark of Stand up Comedy. I actually think the era of stand up comedy is over, not because of "PC culture liberals" but just the amount of ways people can get comedy, from YouTube to podcasts I thunk is changing it. Hell stand up comedy as it is now is little more than an off shoot of part of a Vaudeville show that started to come into its own in the 1950s and didn't hit big until the Boom years of the 1980s and 90s. The "profession" is either going to die out or just get reabsorbed into being part of other entertainment
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# ? Sep 18, 2019 18:29 |
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get that OUT of my face posted:the blackface in question is from an episode of The Sarah Silverman Program where she makes a bet with a black guy about who has it worse in society: black people or Jews. so to walk a mile in his shoes, she walks around in blackface, which, as you might expect, causes people to get mad at her. at the end of the episode you find out that the black guy is walking around as a Jewish caricature. it was a funny, if crude, take on race relations wait this is the skit people are defending? Jesus Christ People made it out to some harmless look at race relations.
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# ? Sep 18, 2019 19:27 |
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get that OUT of my face posted:i'd argue that's kind of happened to some extent. what is late night tv if not a bunch of people trying (and failing) to imitate prime Jon Stewart? It's definitely well on the way ro happening but I think moving forward having a or being just a stand up guy will be less and less important
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# ? Sep 18, 2019 19:35 |
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CharlestheHammer posted:wait this is the skit people are defending? Jesus Christ People made it out to some harmless look at race relations. hey dude a word of warning: avoid season 3 of 30 rock. just trust me
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# ? Sep 18, 2019 19:46 |
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CharlestheHammer posted:wait this is the skit people are defending? Jesus Christ People made it out to some harmless look at race relations. get that OUT of my face has issued a correction as of 20:09 on Sep 18, 2019 |
# ? Sep 18, 2019 20:06 |
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https://twitter.com/saraghaleb/status/935045802078101504?s=21
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# ? Sep 18, 2019 20:24 |
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Jenny Agutter posted:hey dude a word of warning: avoid Watching 30 Rock is just watching liberals in the entertainment industry with jobs thousands of others would kill for ventilate the tensions of mass media by laughing all the bad stuff off. tinafeysheetcake.jpg
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# ? Sep 18, 2019 20:39 |
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Jenny Agutter posted:hey dude a word of warning: avoid season 3 of 30 rock. just trust me why would I watch any season of 30 rock
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CharlestheHammer posted:why would I watch any season of 30 rock Because it’s funny
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# ? Sep 18, 2019 20:58 |
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comedy is subjective
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# ? Sep 18, 2019 21:00 |
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Echo Chamber posted:Fixed. yeah it was really funny. but now I'm imagining someone getting really mad at the the Tracy Morgan meat machine episode like, how can they just joke about celebrity endorsements? George foreman obviously didn't invent the grill, it's all bullshit, liberals are the most useless people on the planet, etc etc
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# ? Sep 18, 2019 21:19 |
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so as a point of comparison, i happened to see the original rocky last week (which i hadn't watched in some years) and the scene where he goes on a date with adriene and coerces her into his apartment and forces himself onto her was massively uncomfortable to watch. it's definitely not something that should have been glorified when it was new, but obviously social norms were different and it was more socially acceptable to be a creepy predator towards women back then. is 30 rock bad like that, where there's genuinely objectionable stuff in it that shouldn't have been cool even when it was new, or is it more cringeworthy retrospection where knowing what we know now about the world, the show wasn't half as clever and subversive as it appeared to be? i feel like 30 rock and parks & rec are both the same kind of vapid obama-era liberal fantasy world, but if there's really lovely stuff in there that everybody just ignored before that could certainly change my opinion on it.
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# ? Sep 18, 2019 21:46 |
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Alec Baldwin's character is basically "an rear end in a top hat, but our charismatic, corporate rear end in a top hat" for the whole show, right?
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# ? Sep 18, 2019 22:00 |
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Echo Chamber posted:Alec Baldwin's character is basically "an rear end in a top hat, but our charismatic, corporate rear end in a top hat" for the whole show, right? not only that, he is genuinely involved in tina fey's character's career, attempts to provide her with good advice and guidance, never makes sexual advances towards her, treats her more-or-less as an equal it's sad that his character is a complete fiction, because he's written as the ideal way a manager should treat a subordinate
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# ? Sep 18, 2019 22:05 |
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Echo Chamber posted:Alec Baldwin's character is basically "an rear end in a top hat, but our charismatic, corporate rear end in a top hat" for the whole show, right? he's a satirical caricature of a republican executive only without the sexual harassment
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# ? Sep 18, 2019 22:33 |
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from what I saw he also kind of means well which muddies it a bit
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# ? Sep 18, 2019 22:35 |
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Its how you know liberals wrote the show, it has a likable Republican in it
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# ? Sep 18, 2019 22:38 |
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CharlestheHammer posted:from what I saw he also kind of means well which muddies it a bit it's been a while but iirc at the beginning he's consistently shown as caring only about making money by rising through the corporate ranks but over the course of the show grows to care more about the people in his life instead of that, to the point that late in the show he has a daydream where a version of him from an alternate timeline busts in to yell at him about how he isn't making enough money because he's gone soft
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