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shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

A few weeks in a machine shop will break you of ever trying to catch anything.

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Catastrophe
Oct 5, 2007

Committed to burn twice as long and half as bright

tangy yet delightful posted:

Years ago I had to have surgery and rehab for just the first knuckle/tip of my thumb after it was slammed in a door hinge and almost severed. That looks way worse and more rehab involved. My sympathies.

Did you have to move your hand in a warm salt water dish for rehab? That's what I remember.

No salt water. Just lots of careful stretching and strengthening exercises. Tough to re-train your thumb to move again when you also can't feel anything due to the nerve damage. Had to be really careful about movement and stretching due to the cut tendon that was still healing for months. Whatever. It's still not 100% now and I still can't feel things but it's usable. You can barely tell anything ever happened now.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

A virologist friend told me he once dropped a syringe and needle in the lab and it stuck him right in the palm when he tried to grab it. It was an empty syringe and he wasn’t even working with anything that needed more than latex gloves and a face shield but yeah.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

https://i.imgur.com/8J2kbDq.mp4

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.



Ghost Rider’s gotta pick little Kevin up from soccer, what’s the problem

CleverHans
Apr 25, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!

:piss:

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!
Toilet Rascal
That is indeed some serious poo poo

Craptacular
Jul 11, 2004

If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 miles per hour, you're gonna see some serious poo poo.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

haveblue posted:

That is indeed some serious poo poo

Heavy.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

There's that word again, heavy. Why are things so heavy in the future? Is there a problem with the Earth's gravitational pull?

Evilreaver
Feb 26, 2007

GEORGE IS GETTIN' AUGMENTED!
Dinosaur Gum

I took suburban "karate" classes back in the day. We did all these drills like blocks and stances and katas that were useless for self defence but good for exercise so :shrug:

One set of drills was to have one guy with a rubber prop knife stab at you and you disarm him, on repeat to perfect the technique and go faster, etc.

Anyway, one of the dojo Masters took a trip to NYC and while there a mugger pulled a knife on him. Automatically, he disarmed the guy, and automatically went to hand the guy his knife back since that was how he drilled. Both parties confused, they parted ways without trouble.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
There's a(n almost certainly apocryphal) story like that from WWII when the Marines in the Pacific were fighting island to island against the occupying Japanese. One Marine who had trained Judo was fighting hand to hand against a Japanese soldier, and found himself in a choke hold. He tapped, and the Japanese soldier let him go, because, well, you don't kill people in training, right?

Mister Speaker
May 8, 2007

WE WILL CONTROL
ALL THAT YOU SEE
AND HEAR

Evilreaver posted:

Anyway, one of the dojo Masters took a trip to NYC and while there a mugger pulled a knife on him. Automatically, he disarmed the guy, and automatically went to hand the guy his knife back since that was how he drilled. Both parties confused, they parted ways without trouble.

I've definitely heard almost this exact story before, in the context of police (or maybe military) knife drills. A friend who teaches stage combat relayed it to me and I think he even mentioned something about 'special training knives' that were developed to counter it that did... something, perhaps shock you? if you tried to hand them back. That last part sounds extremely far-fetched, though.

therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time

Catastrophe posted:

I did this almost exactly 1 year ago. You know that area between your thumb and pointer finger? Yeah, the knife went all the way down through that until it hit bone at the base of my thumb. Thumb was just hanging there. Cut the muscle there in half, severed a nerve, severed an artery, cut a tendon, and butchered half my hand nearly off. I still have no feeling in that thumb but at least it moves again after a bunch of surgery and therapy.

Don't catch falling knives.


e: :nws: https://i.imgur.com/pWusdSS.jpg :nws:

Doesn't look THAT bad, initially. But if I turn my hand around, the wound goes about that far down on the other side of the hand as well. It wasn't a surface cut. Pretty much draw a line from the skin at the base of my thumb down through to the middle of my hand, there. All the way through. Not just on the palm side. Like if you were trying to cut a leg off of a roast chicken or something. I'm just lucky that bone stopped it from going further.


Strong post/username combo here.

Shut up Meg
Jan 8, 2019

You're safe here.

Mister Speaker posted:

I've definitely heard almost this exact story before, in the context of police (or maybe military) knife drills. A friend who teaches stage combat relayed it to me and I think he even mentioned something about 'special training knives' that were developed to counter it that did... something, perhaps shock you? if you tried to hand them back. That last part sounds extremely far-fetched, though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zvQI_I2U7Y&t=20s

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Evilreaver posted:

I took suburban "karate" classes back in the day. We did all these drills like blocks and stances and katas that were useless for self defence but good for exercise so :shrug:

One set of drills was to have one guy with a rubber prop knife stab at you and you disarm him, on repeat to perfect the technique and go faster, etc.

Anyway, one of the dojo Masters took a trip to NYC and while there a mugger pulled a knife on him. Automatically, he disarmed the guy, and automatically went to hand the guy his knife back since that was how he drilled. Both parties confused, they parted ways without trouble.

Guy in high school was a blue belt in judo, and on an art class trip to NYC was accosted by a man with a knife. Being somewhat more aware, I guess, John disarmed the man by breaking his arm, whereupon the assailant dropped the knife and fled.

We have John a tee-shirt saying
I WENT TO NYC TO LOOK AT ART
SOMEONE TRIED TO MUG ME
SO I BROKE HIS loving ARM

Shut up Meg
Jan 8, 2019

You're safe here.

ChickenHeart posted:

Exploding stuff is pretty good at starting fires in the first place, and any professional setup would take fire prevention into consideration regardless of whether burning is involved or not (in a permissive environment; safety may occasionally take a backseat to timeliness in a warzone).

ReelBigLizard posted:

It was hollow, just the bakelite part. Otherwise I wouldn't have hosed with it.

I was in a suit/helmet/plate combo thing. It was hot, heavy and disgustingly sweaty.

Could you two do an Ask/Tell thread?

I'd really like to know more about what you do and the replies keep getting lost in this fast-moving thread.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Shut up Meg posted:

Could you two do an Ask/Tell thread?

I'd really like to know more about what you do and the replies keep getting lost in this fast-moving thread.

THIS

Mooseykins
Aug 9, 2013

Triangle tits and an annoying sex voice?

Fuuuuck youuuuu sluuuut!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuUCFYL8v7M

Always remember to put your wipers on when driving through fire.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Craptacular posted:

If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 miles per hour, you're gonna see some serious poo poo.

Well since this is 2019 not 1985, the serious poo poo would probably just be the the van shortly after breaking down, then slowly over the next hour and fifty six minutes burning after the flames catch up, until it's just blackened chassis, while the passengers and a few random others awkwardly stand around, knowing they can't really do anything but feeling like they should probably just try anyway just to seem like their doing something.

It will not star Michael J Fox. :(

ChickenHeart
Nov 28, 2007

Take me at your own risk.

Kiss From a Hog

Shut up Meg posted:

Could you two do an Ask/Tell thread?

I'd really like to know more about what you do and the replies keep getting lost in this fast-moving thread.

Eh, long story short I decided it would be fun to blow dangerous stuff up for Uncle Sam. I don't have any interesting stories in my few short years so far as a bomb-toucher; by the time I joined up deployments had all but dried up.

It also doesn't help that you're limited on what you can talk about. Pretty much anything pertaining to how EOD does their job is classified in one way or another, and for good reason: In addition to the dangers of information being used to hurt techs, there is also the very-real hazard of having non-EOD troops go "Oh, I saw a bomb-disposal guy do this once" and not long after there's an investigation to find out who "taught" someone to be an armchair bomb diffuser.

The robots are always rad, though:



Easily the most popular piece of equipment when we do school visits.

Mooseykins
Aug 9, 2013

Triangle tits and an annoying sex voice?

Fuuuuck youuuuu sluuuut!

ChickenHeart posted:

It also doesn't help that you're limited on what you can talk about. Pretty much anything pertaining to how EOD does their job is classified in one way or another, and for good reason: In addition to the dangers of information being used to hurt techs, there is also the very-real hazard of having non-EOD troops go "Oh, I saw a bomb-disposal guy do this once" and not long after there's an investigation to find out who "taught" someone to be an armchair bomb diffuser.

So, basically, cut the red wire, right? Got it.

I get that you can't say too much, but are these bombs ever particularly complicated? Are they actually quite rudimentary and similar in how they work?

I'm assuming most use some kind of pressure/proximity sensor to trigger them, not timers?

Shut up Meg
Jan 8, 2019

You're safe here.

ChickenHeart posted:

Eh, long story short I decided it would be fun to blow dangerous stuff up for Uncle Sam. I don't have any interesting stories in my few short years so far as a bomb-toucher; by the time I joined up deployments had all but dried up.

It also doesn't help that you're limited on what you can talk about. Pretty much anything pertaining to how EOD does their job is classified in one way or another, and for good reason:

I respectfully disagree: even the most mundane to you, completely unclassified, stuff to you is really interesting to me.

Hell, I just spent an hour on the phone talking through a printer installation, so this is Hollywood to me - even if it's anecdotes on how you take a dump whilst wearing a bombsuit.

Kanine
Aug 5, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSExpmrDogU

master ken is a good dude

ChickenHeart
Nov 28, 2007

Take me at your own risk.

Kiss From a Hog

Mooseykins posted:

So, basically, cut the red wire, right? Got it.

I get that you can't say too much, but are these bombs ever particularly complicated? Are they actually quite rudimentary and similar in how they work?

I'm assuming most use some kind of pressure/proximity sensor to trigger them, not timers?

Mankind has spent a lot of time and effort in finding better ways to kill each other, so when it comes to conventional munitions the sky's the limit. If it's a stimuli that can be crammed into a fuze it's probably already had thousands of dollars of r&d, testing, and dozens of marketable variants made for it.

Similarly, IED's are only limited by the maker's resources and imagination when it comes to design and function.

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem
If you're interested, there's a lot of now-declassified stuff about how this was done back in WWII out there. While this might not entirely track with modern practice, even back then bombmakers were deliberately designing mechanisms to kill the bomb disposal folks trying to disarm them.

Whooping Crabs
Apr 13, 2010

Sorry for the derail but I fuckin love me some racoons

Mooseykins posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuUCFYL8v7M

Always remember to put your wipers on when driving through fire.

Blayt to the Future is a pro-tier username

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

In a previous thread I have been told that the standard MO for defusing a bomb is to use a robot to shoot it with a shotgun until it either explodes or is sufficiently broken up that there's no real risk of explosion.

tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007



This is interesting. I was actually filling up yesterday when the fuel guy showed up and interestingly enough I learned about a safety feature on at their trailer.

In order to access the attachment points on the truck they have to lift a bar, when lifted they bar dumps all the air from the brakes so the trailer at least has full brakes applied.

thepopmonster
Feb 18, 2014


ChickenHeart posted:

information being used to hurt techs, there is also the very-real hazard of having non-EOD troops go "Oh, I saw a bomb-disposal guy do this once" and not long after there's an investigation to find out who "taught" someone to be an armchair bomb diffuser.

Is there a word for "perfectly appropriate typographical error"?

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

Mooseykins posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuUCFYL8v7M

Always remember to put your wipers on when driving through fire.

Maybe let's not give views to YouTube channels with racist icons??

Whooping Crabs
Apr 13, 2010

Sorry for the derail but I fuckin love me some racoons

DonVincenzo
Nov 12, 2010

Super Monster
The Absolute Guardian of the Universe
Friend of All Children
That's proper truckfuckling alright.

Nth Doctor
Sep 7, 2010

Darkrai used Dream Eater!
It's super effective!


DonVincenzo posted:

That's proper truckfuckling alright.

Out of curiosity, I went and found the intersection. There was no sane reason to take a semi through this and attempt a turn.
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7473679,-73.8746658,3a,75y,128.53h,85.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sE0WMxGWi-_q4NrwqNeOUsQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Ornamental Dingbat
Feb 26, 2007

Maybe you shouldn't stand that close to someone who is that bad at driving? Especially in a blind spot.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug
No no, don't stop, just keep driving, I'm sure your bad driving isn't doing anything in a tightly packed city street.

Mooseykins
Aug 9, 2013

Triangle tits and an annoying sex voice?

Fuuuuck youuuuu sluuuut!

Wasabi the J posted:

Maybe let's not give views to YouTube channels with racist icons??

Oh, i'm sorry, i must've forgotten to cross check the user's icon against my Encyclopedia of Racist Symbols before i linked a video relevant to someone else's post.

I'll be sure check with you next time. Not that i looked at their icon, let alone knew it was racist.

fisting by many
Dec 25, 2009



Nth Doctor posted:

Out of curiosity, I went and found the intersection. There was no sane reason to take a semi through this and attempt a turn.
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7473679,-73.8746658,3a,75y,128.53h,85.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sE0WMxGWi-_q4NrwqNeOUsQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

I once saw a tow truck towing a bus attempt turning through a similarly tight intersection.

After a few careful reverses, he actually made it, and I clapped and he blew his horn :shobon:

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

fisting by many posted:

I once saw a tow truck towing a bus attempt turning through a similarly tight intersection.

After a few careful reverses, he actually made it, and I clapped and he blew his horn :shobon:

At least you can understand how that happened since nobody plans on a bus breaking down.

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Shut up Meg
Jan 8, 2019

You're safe here.

Mooseykins posted:

Oh, i'm sorry, i must've forgotten to cross check the user's icon against my Encyclopedia of Racist Symbols before i linked a video relevant to someone else's post.

I'll be sure check with you next time. Not that i looked at their icon, let alone knew it was racist.

You should do what I did: get them all tattooed on your arm so you can quickly and easily check to make sure you aren't accidentally using them.

The only downside is that I keep getting punched in the face and no-one will employ me or sleep with me.

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