Agony Aunt posted:

So... they made NMS?

skeletors_condom posted:

It's hilarious that the cultists approach purchases of pre-release DLC/jpegs almost as a hobby. They don't even know what CIG will announce:



Note: they are talking about this ship/jpeg ad:

Dogeh posted:

So it's a shiptease?

Popete posted:

What's the point of hand mining rocks in a cave in a game were you can effectively mine entire asteroids in space? It makes no sense.

It makes at least some sense in NMS where you are a stranded solo survivor making their way thru the galaxy scraping together fuel but it also doesn't bill itself as a high fidelity space sim either.

trucutru posted:

Only in caves can you find whalerium.

But it's only a fraction of what you can do without a specialized mining vehicle. *wink* *wink*

Anticheese posted:

Mining tool looks awfully No Man's Skysy there.

Mirificus posted:

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/3/thread/will-star-citizen-have-a-main-story/2386150

Dogeh posted:

So it's a shiptease?

Mirificus posted:

trucutru posted:

Only in caves can you find whalerium.

But it's only a fraction of what you can do without a specialized mining vehicle. *wink* *wink*

colonelwest posted:

SecretDevBuild.txt

Yes, through all of the waves of spectacular failures and backer attrition, CIG has chosen to hide the fact that they have dozens of highly detailed Star Systems already completed.

This and the fever swamp dream that CIG is making AI of unprecedented complexity that is decades out of reach of even tech giants like Google, are my favorite parts of the Star Citizen Catechism.

quote:

If you understood what Squadron 42 was, you would understand how ridiculous this sounds. Squadron 42 takes place in exactly the same game universe as the PU only earlier. You cannot join either the military or advocacy in the PU, you can only join the military in Squadron 42. Service Guarantees Citizenship. If you do not join the military you will enter the PU as a civilian, in which case you either have to earn citizenship or buy citizenship. You cannot earn or buy ex-military status. A civilian cannot vote, will be restricted in what equipment or information they are allowed to access. There will be places you cannot go if you have no military security clearances. There is equipment that you will be trained on as ex-military which you cannot (with certain exceptions) own or operate legally in the PU if you have no military training. The F8C Lightning space superiority fighter for example. The Vanduul War is not over and ex-military are expected to remain current on front-line military equipment, because they can be called back to service at any time this was part of the reason for the Fleet Militia Initiative.

Agony Aunt posted:

Anyone know if this is really something CIG have said they will do or is it just dreams.txt?

Another deluded scam victim posted:

If you understood what Squadron 42 was, you would understand how ridiculous this sounds. Squadron 42 takes place in exactly the same game universe as the PU only earlier. You cannot join either the military or advocacy in the PU, you can only join the military in Squadron 42. Service Guarantees Citizenship. If you do not join the military you will enter the PU as a civilian, in which case you either have to earn citizenship or buy citizenship. You cannot earn or buy ex-military status. A civilian cannot vote, will be restricted in what equipment or information they are allowed to access. There will be places you cannot go if you have no military security clearances. There is equipment that you will be trained on as ex-military which you cannot (with certain exceptions) own or operate legally in the PU if you have no military training. The F8C Lightning space superiority fighter for example. The Vanduul War is not over and ex-military are expected to remain current on front-line military equipment, because they can be called back to service at any time this was part of the reason for the Fleet Militia Initiative.

Beet Wagon posted:

Moving the Star Citizen thread back to games was worth it just for the Eonwe drive-by posts tbh

Sabreseven posted:

Why does he remind me of :



It might be the gross "energy" drink I guess. Or, that he's basically sacrificing integrity for money.

Meh.

E: Energy drinks are loving nasty, don't drink them.

BeefThief posted:

is this game not out yet for real

PederP posted:

Those are not mutually exclusive options. Yes and yes.

stingtwo posted:

Something I just noticed with rexzilla compared to other streamers, he isn't facing the screen straight on, it's always this angle facing towards the webcam, he is also bending in towards the mic whenever he talks.

stingtwo posted:

Something I just noticed with rexzilla compared to other streamers, he isn't facing the screen straight on, it's always this angle facing towards the webcam, he is also bending in towards the mic whenever he talks.

Beluga Snail posted:

I'd love to get links to those videos if you don't mind- I like to keep a handy list of various times CIG has outright stated things that run completely counter to the believed narrative, and the entire 'how long in development with how many people' is one of the more common ones.

eonwe posted:

star citizen jacks you off and then cuddles you afterward

AbstractNapper posted:

Are we weeks away from CitCan yet?

Pixelate posted:

Here's some early staffing / contracting stuff:


STAFF NUMBERS (NOT INCLUDING CONTRACTORS):





CHRIS ON THE FULL NUMBERS:

Aug 2013 - 90 (50 staff, 40~ contractors) [and rising]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbI-tT0Zs-U&feature=youtu.be&t=14m29s

Oct 2013 - 110 (IE at Citcon. Approx 130-140 by this vid in Dec)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc2ya7SRA3I#t=478s

June 2014 - 268 (approx half staff, half contract)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3lhXDaHcvo&feature=youtu.be&t=5m45s


LIST OF EARLY CONTRACTORS:

Click this link for many more links...

Kikas posted:

It loving breaks me how every time CIG introduces a mechanic it's the most boring variant of the lot. They might introduce some twists to it (they won't tho) but this is something that No Mans Sky had in it's underwhelming launch in 2016. And even there it was more interesting on launch, because there was a complete (if a bit barren) game around it.

In the year 2019 there are a lot of games with mining, like:

Minecraft: The big cheese and yet the baseline of all procgen games with mining. Hit rock with fist, receive resource. For more advanced minerals - use advanced tools or get gently caress all. Not much to it. Unless you count enchanting your pickaxe to be faster, more durable or yield more minerals.
Going back to space games we have No Mans Sky - I'd say it's the closest one to SC due to being both in space and having space legs. Point at rock, receive minerals. CIG does a carbon copy of this one, since you can also blow up asteroids in space (with every one of your weapons, not just mining oriented ones) and receive resources. But unlike SC, NMS uses it's resources for a lot more then money - you need fuel for your ship, suit and weapons, you can refine, convert and combine resources, craft stuff with them, use them to build bases, ship components, rooms on your Frigate (basically your private Space Carrier, complete with your hangar and a loving FLEET you can build around it) - basically Mining is a piece of around 10 gameplay loops instead of in addition to being a loop on it's own.
But the one I've been playing a lot recently and the one I find mining the most fun is Deep Rock Galactic - a 4 player coop shooter where you're a bunch of space dwarves and go on expeditions. It features procgen caves (with varying complexity levels, shapes and sizes), 6 or 7 mission types and a lot of mining. Usually you dig through walls using your pickaxe, but you can use explosives (including strategically killing enemies that explode on death) or you can pick the "Driller" class and use akimbo mounted hand drills to carve tunnels into every wall. The resources you gather have to be offloaded to either a drone follwing you or to a specific point in the map, and finding what you need requires using both your eyes and an integrated scanning tool. The caves are dark and need to be lit with flares that bouce around and go off after a while, and full of enemies, so when you launch an expedition, there's hardly a dull moment.
So if you want some fun coop mining - get Deep Rock Galactic. It's awesome.

Don't buy into Star Citizen for goodness sake.

Agony Aunt posted:

Ok, bad phrasing on my part. Does anyone know if CIG have said they will do this?

quote:

"Citizenship is a big deal in this universe," says Roberts. "Citizenship isn't your birthright. There's a little bit of Starship Troopers in there, but that in itself is modelled on the Roman system. You can win citizenship through military service, or you earn it through civic duties, or by becoming a merchant and buying it. That then opens up a new level of other things you can do in the galaxy."

....

Within the game, a full single-player campaign named Squadron 42 lurks. This Wing Commander-like option puts the player on the frontline of a battle along the edge of Earth territory, attempting to get into the eponymous unit – essentially, it's the French foreign legion of space. This can be attempted offline, but if you stay connected, friends can join in to be wingmen in key battles. When you complete it, you enter the persistent universe as an elite warrior, like a Navy SEAL: "and then you venture out into a Privateer-style world," says Roberts

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/gamesblog/2012/oct/12/star-citizen-preview

chaosapiant posted:

Thanos's ship looks like Van Damme when he did counter-top splits in Timecop. Go ahead try to not see that now.

Foo Diddley posted:

Man, if I'm spending $100k on a costume it better be a fully functional battlemech or something

Kikas posted:

It loving breaks me how every time CIG introduces a mechanic it's the most boring variant of the lot. They might introduce some twists to it (they won't tho) but this is something that No Mans Sky had in it's underwhelming launch in 2016. And even there it was more interesting on launch, because there was a complete (if a bit barren) game around it.

In the year 2019 there are a lot of games with mining, like:

Minecraft: The big cheese and yet the baseline of all procgen games with mining. Hit rock with fist, receive resource. For more advanced minerals - use advanced tools or get gently caress all. Not much to it. Unless you count enchanting your pickaxe to be faster, more durable or yield more minerals.
Going back to space games we have No Mans Sky - I'd say it's the closest one to SC due to being both in space and having space legs. Point at rock, receive minerals. CIG does a carbon copy of this one, since you can also blow up asteroids in space (with every one of your weapons, not just mining oriented ones) and receive resources. But unlike SC, NMS uses it's resources for a lot more then money - you need fuel for your ship, suit and weapons, you can refine, convert and combine resources, craft stuff with them, use them to build bases, ship components, rooms on your Frigate (basically your private Space Carrier, complete with your hangar and a loving FLEET you can build around it) - basically Mining is a piece of around 10 gameplay loops instead of in addition to being a loop on it's own.
But the one I've been playing a lot recently and the one I find mining the most fun is Deep Rock Galactic - a 4 player coop shooter where you're a bunch of space dwarves and go on expeditions. It features procgen caves (with varying complexity levels, shapes and sizes), 6 or 7 mission types and a lot of mining. Usually you dig through walls using your pickaxe, but you can use explosives (including strategically killing enemies that explode on death) or you can pick the "Driller" class and use akimbo mounted hand drills to carve tunnels into every wall. The resources you gather have to be offloaded to either a drone follwing you or to a specific point in the map, and finding what you need requires using both your eyes and an integrated scanning tool. The caves are dark and need to be lit with flares that bouce around and go off after a while, and full of enemies, so when you launch an expedition, there's hardly a dull moment.
So if you want some fun coop mining - get Deep Rock Galactic. It's awesome.

Don't buy into Star Citizen for goodness sake.

Sanya Juutilainen posted:

Also Space Engineers and probably like a dozen other games that do it better, yes.

Jonny Shiloh posted:

Also Elite Dangerous of course - asteroid mining for cash and materials, planetary mining (via SRV) for materials for engineering and module upgrades, and I'd argue that scanning signal sources for materials sort of constitutes mining as well.

It's a grind, of course, as I well know - I've actually just finished re-engineering my Asp X FSD drive using the "new" engineering system (material traders, no effect rolls) and finding stuff like datamined wake exceptions was a massive chore. It's still a legit gameplay loop though unlike whatever passes for mining in SC.

Lladre posted:

I missed something, what's all this about costumes? did they make cosplay costumes for their staff?