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StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

The OG Nazis were on frightening quantities and qualities of drugs

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Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:



not to judge anyone regarding what they do in their free time, but i think a lot of drug people come up these "unlocking higher states of consciousness" rationales for doing drugs, which seems like bullshit to me and just a justification for doing something you already wanted to do

Francis Crick credits LSD with helping him discover the structure of DNA.

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

StashAugustine posted:

The OG Nazis were on frightening quantities and qualities of drugs

if hitler had a twitter handle itd be like methmensch1488

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

pookel posted:

Hm, yes, being imperialist western shithead countries with a history of colonialism is definitely the same thing as the industrialized mass murder of millions of people



Maybe I am a little emotionally invested right now, but I just spent last weekend going through pictures like this:

The boys in that photo are my grandpa and his older brother, the two girls in the photo almost certainly ended up here:


we did mass murder thing to, I guess it depends on how invested you are in the industrialized part.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

StashAugustine posted:

The OG Nazis were on frightening quantities and qualities of drugs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xw8cOOYc_M

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

pookel posted:

Hm, yes, being imperialist western shithead countries with a history of colonialism is definitely the same thing as the industrialized mass murder of millions of people


Fyi the nazis did to Europeans what Europeans did to Africa, Asia, and the Americas just on a smaller scale

the UK is responsible for half a dozen holocausts alone

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

https://twitter.com/ezralevant/status/1174750506654322690

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Spergin Morlock posted:

Francis Crick credits LSD with helping him discover the structure of DNA.

LSD is a fancy way of saying "stealing another scientists work"

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009


it was hilarious when he put a dildo in his rear end on a livestream to own the libs

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.


"Trudeau was pretending he wasn't a racist, but we're proud about being racists."

cargo cult
Aug 28, 2008

by Reene
speak from personal experience i would think tripping would at some point involuntarily increase your empathy towards others, whether you wanted it to or not, but maybe it works in reverse if you spend the trip jerking off to gore and school shootings

cargo cult
Aug 28, 2008

by Reene
its pretty obvious from awd's propaganda that they're psychonauts and crackheads though

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:

cargo cult posted:

speak from personal experience i would think tripping would at some point involuntarily increase your empathy towards others

tripping is big among Silicon Valley and nary a particular re-evaluation of their relation to others in the world

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD

Agean90 posted:

LSD is a fancy way of saying "stealing another scientists work"

RoSaLinD Franklin

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

cargo cult posted:

speak from personal experience i would think tripping would at some point involuntarily increase your empathy towards others, whether you wanted it to or not, but maybe it works in reverse if you spend the trip jerking off to gore and school shootings

I was writing a rambling post to this effect, but I really think MDMA is something a lot of people should experience, even if you've never taken a drink of alcohol or popped a tylenol in your life. It has euphoric effects but also straight up induces empathy. Not in a "wow that must suck for them" kind of way but a very real emotional connection to the thoughts going through your mind, even if they previously held no value. It makes you talk, and really share important details, not the sort of guarded version of you that is normally presented. It was used in couples therapy for years and I think in some cases it still is.

And I'm sure this is all horseshit to someone who has never experienced it, and maybe they're right, i'm just saying dose every flyover state:colbert:

cumshitter
Sep 27, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

cernovitch starts off gorilla mindset by talking about how he had a diagnosed mental illness, forget whcih, but he got over it by "thinking really hard about it"

Flavius Aetass
Mar 30, 2011
lmao

Kfroog
Nov 9, 2012

Bobby Digital posted:

“The term hwacha or hwach'a (화차; 火車) (fire cart)[1] referred to a multiple rocket launcher and an organ gun”

:colbert:

:piss:

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

StashAugustine posted:

The OG Nazis were on frightening quantities and qualities of drugs

So much meth, it's not even funny.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

bring back old gbs posted:

I was writing a rambling post to this effect, but I really think MDMA is something a lot of people should experience, even if you've never taken a drink of alcohol or popped a tylenol in your life. It has euphoric effects but also straight up induces empathy. Not in a "wow that must suck for them" kind of way but a very real emotional connection to the thoughts going through your mind, even if they previously held no value. It makes you talk, and really share important details, not the sort of guarded version of you that is normally presented. It was used in couples therapy for years and I think in some cases it still is.

And I'm sure this is all horseshit to someone who has never experienced it, and maybe they're right, i'm just saying dose every flyover state:colbert:
i did it once and i think it helped rattle me out of the closet a bit and that's a good thing!

DragQueenofAngmar
Dec 29, 2009

You shall not pass!
I would have killed myself a long time ago without psychedelics. they helped me to see shades of grey, where before things were either 100% good or bad, and really if you look at anything long enough you will find the bad and it will become 100% bad. I am really glad they are starting research on their therapeutic effects again

pookel
Oct 27, 2011

Ultra Carp

Phi230 posted:

Fyi the nazis did to Europeans what Europeans did to Africa, Asia, and the Americas just on a smaller scale

the UK is responsible for half a dozen holocausts alone
Yeah. I get that colonialism involved mass murder. But in the specific context of WWII, one side was doing that and the other side stopped them from finishing the job, so to say these two sides were equally bad? Seem to imply it doesn't matter which side won. And that's some galaxy brain both-sides bullshit.

LonsomeSon
Nov 22, 2009

A fishperson in an intimidating hat!

pookel posted:

Yeah. I get that colonialism involved mass murder. But in the specific context of WWII, one side was doing that and the other side stopped them from finishing the job, so to say these two sides were equally bad? Seem to imply it doesn't matter which side won. And that's some galaxy brain both-sides bullshit.

The side that stopped them from 'finishing the job' was composed of powers which had already 'finished' similar 'jobs' on indigenous people around the world.

It is good that the Final Solution was stopped before it fully ran its course. But to deny or elide the responsibility of the British, French, Americans or Russians for the perpetration of their various empires on the world is gaslighting on a very grand scale.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



pookel posted:

Yeah. I get that colonialism involved mass murder. But in the specific context of WWII, one side was doing that and the other side stopped them from finishing the job, so to say these two sides were equally bad? Seem to imply it doesn't matter which side won. And that's some galaxy brain both-sides bullshit.

it wasn't so straight forward. We rescued every Nazi we thought would be useful to us and Patton even re-imprisoned Jews he came across and put Nazis in charge of the camps. The leadup to the war was basically all of capital and money in the US begging us to either stay out or go to war on the side of the Nazis.

were the Nazis the worse of the two on the whole? obviously, but to say it's fanciful that the primary reason European and American powers were so horrified at Hitler doing to them what they'd been doing to everybody else is false. It's not like anybody after the war was clamoring to bring out the "PLEASE IMMIGRATE HERE" banners for all the now displaced Jews

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
the Brits have worked very hard to memory hole all the horrible things they did. occasionally someone finds some dusty forgotten archive they neglected to destroy.



https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/apr/18/britain-destroyed-records-colonial-crimes

Norton the First
Dec 4, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Epic High Five posted:

it wasn't so straight forward. We rescued every Nazi we thought would be useful to us and Patton even re-imprisoned Jews he came across and put Nazis in charge of the camps. The leadup to the war was basically all of capital and money in the US begging us to either stay out or go to war on the side of the Nazis.

were the Nazis the worse of the two on the whole? obviously, but to say it's fanciful that the primary reason European and American powers were so horrified at Hitler doing to them what they'd been doing to everybody else is false. It's not like anybody after the war was clamoring to bring out the "PLEASE IMMIGRATE HERE" banners for all the now displaced Jews

Hmmm, yes, what depth and nuance you display with your lazy scattershot "ALLIES BAD" posting. The bolded part is loving hilarious.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Norton the First posted:

Hmmm, yes, what depth and nuance you display with your lazy scattershot "ALLIES BAD" posting. The bolded part is loving hilarious.

lol the nazis literally rented out stadiums to win hearts and minds and the media at the time wrote headlines chiding the rude counter-protesters and praising the police for killing them

everybody knew what Hitler was long before he started exterminating people - he was very good for business

Norton the First
Dec 4, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Epic High Five posted:

lol the nazis literally rented out stadiums to win hearts and minds and the media at the time wrote headlines chiding the rude counter-protesters and praising the police for killing them

everybody knew what Hitler was long before he started exterminating people - he was very good for business

I think you'll agree that the fact that you decided to respond with a non-sequitur sort of makes my case for me about your lazy, scattershot bullshit.

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

Scattershot

Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy

Epic High Five posted:

were the Nazis the worse of the two on the whole? obviously

p sure that’s the exact point pookel was making, no more, no less.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Norton the First posted:

I think you'll agree that the fact that you decided to respond with a non-sequitur sort of makes my case for me about your lazy, scattershot bullshit.

https://twitter.com/thalestral/status/902614776269955074

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/videos/category/history/charles-lindbergh-and-the-rise-of-1940s-nazi_1/

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/08/sunday-review/surviving-the-nazis-only-to-be-jailed-by-america.html

quote:

“Harrison and his ilk believe that the Displaced Person is a human being, which he is not, and this applies particularly to the Jews who are lower than animals,” Patton wrote. He complained of how the Jews in one camp, with “no sense of human relationships,” would defecate on the floors and live in filth like lazy “locusts,” and he told of taking his commander, Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower, to tour a makeshift synagogue set up to commemorate the holy day of Yom Kippur.

“We entered the synagogue, which was packed with the greatest stinking mass of humanity I have ever seen,” Patton wrote. “Of course, I have seen them since the beginning and marveled that beings alleged to be made in the form of God can look the way they do or act the way they act.”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ibm-holocaust_b_1301691

none of this is new

you shouldn't have heroes, the only reasons there has ever been any war is because somebody thought they could get more powerful and get rid of newly surplus population, including us

if Hitler had just kept his expansionism to foreign parts he'd have a bust in the Oval Office right now

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
nazis in the u.s were a grave threat in those days. the german american bund was just one group. coughlin was doing mass rallies and had his own stormtrooper wing called the christian front that gang stomped and stabbed jews in new york all the time

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

CharlestheHammer posted:

we did mass murder thing to, I guess it depends on how invested you are in the industrialized part.

Equivocating between the allies and the Nazis is as obnoxious as equivocating between the Nazis and Stalin

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



SpaceSDoorGunner posted:

Equivocating between the allies and the Nazis is as obnoxious as equivocating between the Nazis and Stalin

not nearly as ignoring history and just inventing a noble purpose, but that's certainly a great way to move on to seeing stuff like the invasion of Iraq or an invasion of Iran as just and holy

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

nazis in the u.s were a grave threat in those days. the german american bund was just one group. coughlin was doing mass rallies and had his own stormtrooper wing called the christian front that gang stomped and stabbed jews in new york all the time

Behind the Bastards has some great episodes on American fascists and some “nothing ever changes” how when some anti fascist veterans infiltrated the Nazis and gave the LAPD evidence they were doing illegal poo poo the LAPD was like “no they’re cool.”

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



SpaceSDoorGunner posted:

Behind the Bastards has some great episodes on American fascists and some “nothing ever changes” how when some anti fascist veterans infiltrated the Nazis and gave the LAPD evidence they were doing illegal poo poo the LAPD was like “no they’re cool.”

lmao that makes sense, cops loved the nazis too for some reason

Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy
hey this thread could use a mood-lightener:

https://mobile.twitter.com/howroute/status/1174739932822351874

Norton the First
Dec 4, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

What's cool about this is that you can actually read the text pictured and see that there's nothing against the protesters at all. Modern antifa gets it from the press a lot worse. In your head, what is this evidence of?

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Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Norton the First posted:

What's cool about this is that you can actually read the text pictured and see that there's nothing against the protesters at all. Modern antifa gets it from the press a lot worse. In your head, what is this evidence of?

lol is that the entirety of your response

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