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i have a z370 board that refuses to cold boot, so it'll power on, beep, shut down a moment, restart and then it's fine does this on two different power supplies  whatever, it's in the server now so it shouldn't power off
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:motherboard is toast  The cheapest TR2 is like 660, the Ryzen 7 3700X is like 330?
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there has been some crazy sales, here's a 12c 2920X for $373
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Perplx posted:there has been some crazy sales, here's a 12c 2920X for $373 What's the point at which AMD "gitted gud" (as the kids say these days)? I know the Zen+ and Zen2s are way better than Intel's stuff now but how far back does that go?
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Schadenboner posted:What's the point at which AMD "gitted gud" (as the kids say these days)? I know the Zen+ and Zen2s are way better than Intel's stuff now but how far back does that go? literally zen2, and better than Intel only in certain metrics. the intels still have better single thread performance and higher clocks (on the higher end) but it's great they're finally feeling some heat that's not of their own doing
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I kinda wished I got a 2700 instead of a 9900k last november, i would have saved a bunch of cash and been able to drop in an 12c or 16c in it now, but I have to say I've had basically zero problems with my system and amd is still buggy for a lot of people.
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flakeloaf posted:i have a z370 board that refuses to cold boot, so it'll power on, beep, shut down a moment, restart and then it's fine I've seen this behavior on some HP desktops when you install a PCIx GPU. at first boot, I imagine the board is reconfiguring itself from on-board to add-in graphics, it halts, then starts up like normal. that first quick boot doesn't load the BIOS as far as I can tell. Doesn't directly help your problem but a similar behavior that is as intended.
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Schadenboner posted:What's the point at which AMD "gitted gud" (as the kids say these days)? I know the Zen+ and Zen2s are way better than Intel's stuff now but how far back does that go? zen. 100% of the bulldozer series was dreck
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bulldozer series was nice on linux at least, since it could actually make use of more than one core amdmorecores.tiff
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Tankakern posted:bulldozer series was nice on linux at least, since it could actually make use of more than one core except the cores were hot garbage bulldozer was literally slower than k10, clock for clock. how do you go backwards, but not cancel the product?
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Sep 22, 2019 10:22
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:except the cores were hot garbage the p4 lol
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oh hey, follow up on the dumb windows 10 1903 update issues I was having; turns out, in its vague way, windows was trying to tell me a driver was bad but couldnt figure it out specifically so i had the opportunity to learn how to pull apart a win 10 install which was kind of interesting the result was removing the garbage asus software that came with my mobo. this is a tech gently caress on my part because I should have known better when the related usb 3 charging functionality broke the 1809 install. this is probably the most frustrating uninstall ive done, but i sort of saw it as a good challenge to see if I could remove it without wiping the drive
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Agile Vector posted:oh hey, follow up on the dumb windows 10 1903 update issues I was having; turns out, in its vague way, windows was trying to tell me a driver was bad but couldnt figure it out specifically so i had the opportunity to learn how to pull apart a win 10 install which was kind of interesting if you have a Windows problem give it to the it guy and by it guy I mean the sewer grate clown
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Agile Vector posted:the p4 lol at least the netburst was sold side by side with new versions of the prior p3 designs until they got the clock rate and cache up amd shitcanned k10 and dumped bulldozer on the market and then seemed surprised when they lost 90% of their server chip sales
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Cocoa Crispies posted:if you have a Windows problem give it to the it guy dying in the grips of the sewer grate clown is merciful compared to being your own windows cj
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:at least the netburst was sold side by side with new versions of the prior p3 designs until they got the clock rate and cache up oh no, not those 45 server chips amd was hoping to sell
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:dying in the grips of the sewer grate clown is merciful compared to being your own windows cj its true. meanwhile both the macos and the linux systems are all running fine across multiple years and major releases
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Agile Vector posted:meanwhile both the macos and the linux systems are all running fine across multiple years and major releases
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FMguru posted:true. i never hear any complaints out of any of my linux boxes lol
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Cocoa Crispies posted:oh no, not those 45 server chips amd was hoping to sell before bulldozer obliterated their business amd had a pretty healthy server market share that was wildly profitable it basically propped up the rest of their company if that sounds weird now, that's how fuckin bad bulldozer was
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FMguru posted:true. i never hear any complaints out of any of my linux boxes lol
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it owns that every linux command is like command + object + destination except for tar which is the other way around and also doesn't ask before replacing files thanks linus
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Ur Getting Fatter posted:it owns that every linux command is like command + object + destination except for tar which is the other way around and also doesn't ask before replacing files i like it better than mv or cp
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Ur Getting Fatter posted:it owns that every linux command is like command + object + destination except for tar which is the other way around and also doesn't ask before replacing files tar has a complicated history and Linus isn’t involved you see it has to b exactly one way or else a script written for system III in 1982 might behave oddly and then the gnu maintainers would commit seppuku
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Sep 29, 2019 06:37
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Ur Getting Fatter posted:it owns that every linux command is like command + object + destination except for tar which is the other way around and also doesn't ask before replacing files tar is in that order though
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and cp and mv overwrites without asking too, it's just that most distros aliases those commands to cp -i and mv -i
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pram posted:tar is in that order though tar jfc poop.tar.bz2 poop/ command command destination source
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Sep 29, 2019 18:01
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Email Torvalds your thoughts. I think he'll agree that pesky tape archive command should get its act together for modern day, guided access ipad users.
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Tankakern posted:and cp and mv overwrites without asking too, it's just that most distros aliases those commands to cp -i and mv -i look I got hosed by tar so I’m going to bitch about tar let me have this
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otoh I definitely managed to reduce the size of that file
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Ur Getting Fatter posted:otoh I definitely managed to reduce the size of that file  tar is just a tape archive what you’re referring to is gzip or as I’ve taken to calling it gzip plus tar
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Wow I was grumpy earlier. If you're going to grouse about Unix commands I recommend ln -s, a command that even the grayest of beards still need to look up the ordering for each use.
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TimWinter posted:Wow I was grumpy earlier. closed: wontfix, works 4 me
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i barely touch linux anymore so every time I do it again it's 4 hours of relearning basic stuff like how to mount a drive and how to find out what the size of a file is before I can get to the actual thing I want to do
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Cocoa Crispies posted:tar jfc poop.tar.bz2 poop/ lol what. the second part are the flags not a 'command' just like any other, its just youve never thought about it because you copy and paste it in from google 'tar cvzf' <--- you notice that 'f' there. the thing directly after that is the archive file. tar actually only accepts one source. RTFM
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tar -c -v -z -f archive.tar.gz myfiles/ does that make more sense??
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It should still be source first then destination
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it doesnt have a 'destination' at all. youre explicitly telling tar to save it to a file rather than dump it out to the tty
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Sagebrush posted:It should still be source first then destination except one is a switch and the other is an argument
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the only thing that can make the unix command line look good and easy is mainframe life
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