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It's still called that E: The Daily Heil
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*runs up to confront total piece of poo poo* we need your leadership, please!
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cumshitter posted:cernovitch starts off gorilla mindset by talking about how he had a diagnosed mental illness, forget whcih, but he got over it by "thinking really hard about it" Ah yes the L Ron Hubbard school of psychology
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/media/dan-crenshaw-bernie-sanders-panders-to-veterans.amp Not fixing the VA to own the libs
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Who paid for that eyepatch dan
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The national inquirer also backed Hitler and were one of the first major publications to back Trump as well (with hilarious results for them since they got backstabbed by Trumpland fairly quick)
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Feldegast42 posted:The national inquirer also backed Hitler and were one of the first major publications to back Trump as well (with hilarious results for them since they got backstabbed by Trumpland fairly quick) a lot of major newspapers and rich did, just like they are doing know with their concern trolling for Brazil and the Philippines. I don’t think it’s that controversial but some people are still nationalists for their home countries in CSPAM of all places
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Reclines Obesily posted:reminder jordan peterson pulled himself off patreon and convinced his IDW pals to do the same so they could make an alternative where sargon of akkad could call people n words Wonder how much of that money is going to pay for the rehab.
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Flavius Aetass posted:*runs up to confront total piece of poo poo*
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CuddleCryptid posted:You have to wonder what it is like to live as someone who wakes up in the morning determined to make the world a worse place. Lucrative and personally satisfying. Lady married an English Lord's failson.
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SpaceSDoorGunner posted:I’m specifically responding to whoever “both sidesed” WW2. In many ways Nazis “perfected” the process that the US and other settlers used against the Natives and took racism and colonialism to its most horrific form. The point I’m making is that the Nazis were somehow even worse than any previous crime against humanity to such an extent that you shouldn’t equivocate the sheer scale and speed of what they did. This “well liberals and moderates do bad things and also fascists do bad things” is the reasoning that the KPD and non-Soviet socialist parties split from each other. The direct consequence of this was the Nazis taking power because they underestimated just how much worse fascists are than any other ideology. Put another way - there are things colonial powers won't do, because they're pointless or counterproductive or unprofitable. There is *nothing* fascists won't do.
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Phi230 posted:Does anybody have any reading material wrt to media treatment of antifascist organization in the 30s, media and business supporting nazis, etc...? It's not directly on that, but Stephen J. Ross's Hitler in Los Angeles: How Jews Foiled Nazi Plots Against Hollywood and America is a really interesting book about anti-Nazi work in America in the 1930s. There were three big groups, secret agents from the actual Gestapo, the German-American Bund, which had its roots as a social club for German immigrants, and which had leadership which admired Hitler, and homegrown fascists like the KKK and the Silver Shirt movement. There are eerie parallels with current Antifa tactics. A small group of amateur anti-Nazi Americans managed to thoroughly infiltrate the Nazis, because their opsec was ludicrously bad. The Nazis definitely wanted to kill a whole bunch of people, starting with American Jews, but never really managed to organize beyond small gangs of street fighters. The cops and the government thought that the Nazis had the right idea, and were on their side right up until Pearl Harbor. Meanwhile, the studio bosses, many of whom were Jewish and were at the time the highest paid people in America, tolerated Nazi organizers on their sets and Nazi censorship of their films because they didn't want to lose money.
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pookel posted:Yeah, this. The Nazis were worse than colonialism for the same reason they were worse than Stalin. You can't simply look at the total number of deaths in each column and say "welp, these two bad things are basically the same." No - one of these is terrible but also logical, an atrocity committed by a government for the traditional reasons of achieving power & acquiring territory. The other is serial killer-level insanity. I'm not making an argument that colonialism is moral, far from it. I'm saying that fascism is uniquely dangerous precisely because of its illogical nature. It is possible to negotiate with colonial powers and sometimes to mitigate the damage they have caused; there is no negotiation with fascists. I think you'll find that the Nazis actually only turned imperialism back onto Europe and did not differ much in their methods, intent, or scope. To argue otherwise is to erase the crimes of colonialism and imperialism which apparently are far worse than either you know or are willing to acknowledge Read Fanon and Cesaire Phi230 has issued a correction as of 19:06 on Sep 20, 2019 |
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More than twenty million Soviet civilians died in the course of less than five years. Their methods, intent, and scope were pretty loving out there even judged against the worst of Western imperialism.
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pookel posted:Yeah, this. The Nazis were worse than colonialism for the same reason they were worse than Stalin. You can't simply look at the total number of deaths in each column and say "welp, these two bad things are basically the same." No - one of these is terrible but also logical, an atrocity committed by a government for the traditional reasons of achieving power & acquiring territory. The other is serial killer-level insanity. I'm not making an argument that colonialism is moral, far from it. I'm saying that fascism is uniquely dangerous precisely because of its illogical nature. It is possible to negotiate with colonial powers and sometimes to mitigate the damage they have caused; there is no negotiation with fascists. If our current system is the endpoint of upholding Greed as the highest of all human virtues, than fascism is the endpoint of upholding Hatred as that highest virtue
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Norton the First posted:More than twenty million Soviet civilians died in the course of less than five years. Their methods, intent, and scope were pretty loving out there even judged against the worst of Western imperialism. The British empire killed up to 29 million in India alone in the 19th century E: and possibly 30 million 1760-92 ContinuityNewTimes has issued a correction as of 19:19 on Sep 20, 2019 |
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trying to rank atrocities is really gross and shows y’all are treating as more a game than anything. it’s not a sport you should be out to win
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Norton the First posted:More than twenty million Soviet civilians died in the course of less than five years. Their methods, intent, and scope were pretty loving out there even judged against the worst of Western imperialism. do these methods include "being invaded by the Nazis"
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CharlestheHammer posted:trying to rank atrocities is really gross and shows y’all are treating as more a game than anything. Nobody is trying to rank anything. There is an attempt here at denialism over imperialism that people are rightfully trying to correct
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Phi230 posted:Nobody is trying to rank anything. There is an attempt here at denialism over imperialism that people are rightfully trying to correct I’m more at the point that the holocaust is worse and playing a game of number comparing. Like unfortunately the holocaust has kind of become a badge for people who never really experienced it to prove their superiority. Like if you have to get into a which is worse you are obviously downplaying others by necessity
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Phi230 posted:I think you'll find that the Nazis actually only turned imperialism back onto Europe and did not differ much in their methods, intent, or scope. To argue otherwise is to erase the crimes of colonialism and imperialism which apparently are far worse than either you know or are willing to acknowledge Phi230 posted:Nobody is trying to rank anything. There is an attempt here at denialism over imperialism that people are rightfully trying to correct
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is genocide poker over?
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Flesh Forge posted:is genocide poker over? not until we definitely prove what is the best genocide ever.
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*smokes clove cigarette* im outraged over the hayots tseghaspanutyun, you’ve probably never heard of it
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im still pissed about the Famine oh, which one thats the joke, dummy
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:*smokes clove cigarette* im outraged over the hayots tseghaspanutyun, you’ve probably never heard of it
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On the centennial I remember a whole bunch of billboards from the Turkish government denying that it happened, lmao
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Ague Proof posted:apparently jordan peterson went cold turkey on benzos and is in rehab Given that one major side effect of abusing benzos is memory loss of literally everything between when you started abusing them and when you quit, there’s a comical chance that JP will find it a surprise in a few weeks that he’s ever been involved with the alt-right
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Bushiz posted:On the centennial I remember a whole bunch of billboards from the Turkish government denying that it happened, lmao Didn't they also have sky writers and flash mobs?
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MizPiz posted:Didn't they also have sky writers and flash mobs? It's insane that we thought trump wouldn't win
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Ague Proof posted:apparently jordan peterson went cold turkey on benzos and is in rehab Lisa needs braces
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Kit Walker posted:Given that one major side effect of abusing benzos is memory loss of literally everything between when you started abusing them and when you quit, there’s a comical chance that JP will find it a surprise in a few weeks that he’s ever been involved with the alt-right Lol he's gonna use this to rebrand to the center
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It would be amazing if jorp jomp got back from detox and became a posadist or something
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Agean90 posted:Lol he's gonna use this to rebrand to the center I know if he does this it's just going to be liberal-flavored anti-communism, but the bullshit redemption story he comes up with to cover for a lack of actual change in his worldview might be entertaining for a bit.
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Kathleen Belew is a great author and professor, you all should read her book. She went up against the grift machine today and the trolls are out in force for her with their conservative idpol https://twitter.com/kathleen_belew/status/1175083907827585024 Bullfrog has issued a correction as of 22:27 on Sep 20, 2019 |
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P.F. organizer in austin who, incidentally, is gay. actually had a nazi cooking podcast called the "white flour hour" https://twitter.com/AntiFashGordon/status/1175162504860905472
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