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Abolish parliament and all of the parties, they’re all unfit for purpose.
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Maugrim posted:Apropos of guerilla tree planting and knowing that there are many Scots goons itt, is anyone involved in this? https://treesforlife.org.uk/support/volunteer/ You have to pay (quite a bit) to volunteer with Trees for Life last time I checked. There are definitely things like this in the south of England. Here are a couple local to me, planting trees on Dartmoor https://www.moortrees.org/ and here's an announcement from Cornwall council to plant 8000 hectares https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/cornwall-council-plan-plant-30m-3101377 . Another one is the Cambrian Wildwood in Wales. Google.
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Sep 21, 2019 10:46
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It feels like a shooting of the foot. Watson is bad and I was happy for him to be told to feck off but this is a bit of a clown shoe. Like the last thing labour needs at the moment is to look like its arse doesn't know its elbow
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Sep 21, 2019 10:51
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I'm struggling to parse wtf this tweet is trying to say but either way it seems like an overreaction? How does Watson staying or not really have any significant effect on our chances at a GE? e/ like yeah he's an unhelpful dick and committed wrecker, but this specific story around the drama of booting him or not in this particular moment? Doesn't seem like it'll have any legs at all. Compared to all the other drama he's caused/been associated with, it's a footnote. Renaissance Robot fucked around with this message at 10:59 on Sep 21, 2019 |
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Sep 21, 2019 10:54
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Renaissance Robot posted:I'm struggling to parse wtf this tweet is trying to say but either way it seems like an overreaction? How does Watson staying or not really have any significant effect on our chances at a GE? weak FLIPFLOPPING labour unable to stick to a position
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Sep 21, 2019 10:57
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Basically just that Labour looks like it's infighting, but honestly I don't think people care that much. Also I am about to attend my first reading group at TWT and have so far had five (5) papers try to be sold to me.
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Sep 21, 2019 10:57
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https://twitter.com/RacismFactory/status/1175225484201865217Renaissance Robot posted:I'm struggling to parse wtf this tweet is trying to say but either way it seems like an overreaction? How does Watson staying or not really have any significant effect on our chances at a GE? That's Labour First, they're spinning it as BAD JEREMY CULT UNELECTABLE. If they undermine Labour during the GE it's helpful to them to have already blamed the left for the outcome
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Sep 21, 2019 11:03
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What rubbish news to wake up to. Shelving the plan to oust Watson pleases NOBODY, and just encourages him to carry on being a wrecker while making the leadership look incompetent. Watson now has an entire loving speech on Tuesday with which to attack the party. It's complete idiocy and will royally piss off Corbyn's supporters who finally sensed we could be getting rid of him.
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Sep 21, 2019 11:13
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Corbyn needs to stop leaving these NEC meetings halfway through. This whole gently caress up and the £20 leadership election fee coup would not have been an issue if he was the first one in and last one out.
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Sep 21, 2019 11:14
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https://twitter.com/BethRigby/status/1175352839339687936 Oh look, NEC documents are being texted directly to journalists. Watson is going to see no restrictions on abusing his position now. What a dumb loving move keeping him is.
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Sep 21, 2019 11:18
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it must be loving exhausting being corbs tbqh
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Sep 21, 2019 11:20
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I love my clown shoe socialist party. Like genuinely I believe in where Corbyn is trying to take us, but I have a hard time with all these dumbass moments. Missteps and blunders that make the party look worse. Like if there was a viable alternative to labour that had the same views as corbyn but wasnt as clown shoe I would instantly jump ship. But we have to work with what we've got dont we?
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Sep 21, 2019 11:22
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I think it largely depends on what this compromise motion turns out to be (do we know that yet?) Threatening it and then not doing it would be dumb, but threatening a nuclear option and then getting the right wingers to actively agree to be bombed to ashes using conventional warfare would be a power play (can't kick up a fuss over something that you've willingly agreed to). I'd be well chuffed with Lansman's thing in case Corbyn gets sick or w/e plus implementing a mechanism for the membership/NEC to oust the Deputy if, hypothetically, they were, say, actively briefing against the party on a constant loving basis
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Sep 21, 2019 11:24
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I just wish Corbyn and McDonnell's roles were reversed, Big John would draw equal amounts of fire but would I think be far more comfortable responding in kind and actually doing the authoritarian Stalinist poo poo everyone says Corbyn does and I wish he did
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Sep 21, 2019 11:27
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ThomasPaine posted:I just wish Corbyn and McDonnell's roles were reversed, Big John would draw equal amounts of fire but would I think be far more comfortable responding in kind and actually doing the authoritarian Stalinist poo poo everyone says Corbyn does and I wish he did I wholeheartedly agree
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Sep 21, 2019 11:28
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ThomasPaine posted:it must be loving exhausting being corbs tbqh Imagine how exhausting it must be to be a member of the public watching all this poo poo unf.. oh. At least the rugby is on.
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Sep 21, 2019 11:29
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Jose posted:First time I've seen it in the wild Alternatively I wish the conspiracy theory that the DGSE did 7/7 in retaliation got more traction.
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Sep 21, 2019 11:32
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I'm exhausted by it
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Sep 21, 2019 11:32
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Diet Crack posted:Imagine how exhausting it must be to be a member of the public watching all this poo poo unf.. oh. Hi, member of the public here. I'm not exhausted I'm just bored and frustrated and want a labour govt already. I also would not be sad if everyone on the Labour right were machinegunned in their beds but of course I could never endorse such a violent and illegal course of action!
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Sep 21, 2019 11:38
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Gorn Myson posted:These over the top metaphors that people keep using to describe anything that Corbyn or the left does do my head in. CORBYN LOYALIST FAKES HEAD INJURY; WRONGLY ACCUSES PRESS OF VIOLENT ASSAULT
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Sep 21, 2019 11:42
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Thanks for the concern everybody, I am reasonably pleased to report that I have not died 
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Sep 21, 2019 11:43
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Borrovan posted:I think it largely depends on what this compromise motion turns out to be (do we know that yet?) Except the vote last night proved we have the numbers to do whatever the gently caress we want, Corbyn just lacks the political will. There's absolutely no point making threats, we don't need them to agree to anything. Kicking this into the long grass with a 'review' which will presumably take until conference next year to take effect is super dumb.
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Sep 21, 2019 11:46
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ThomasPaine posted:Hi, member of the public here. I'm not exhausted I'm just bored and frustrated and want a labour govt already. I also would not be sad if everyone on the Labour right were machinegunned in their beds but of course I could never endorse such a violent and illegal course of action!
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Sep 21, 2019 11:49
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It's surreal to see the Conservatives in the worst state they've been in since they came to power, and yet we can't capitalise on it because Blairites want to, what? Dance around to D:ream like it's '97?
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Sep 21, 2019 11:51
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Guavanaut posted:David Blunkett would do it if you put him behind a Maxim gun and told him he's outside the gates of a prison where one of the prisoners said a rude word about the police. All Home Secretaries Are Bastards
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Sep 21, 2019 11:51
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Arm. John. McDonnell.
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Sep 21, 2019 11:53
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The issue with Corbyn is that hes a pacifist lovely jam grandpa and right now we need a cantankerous old git with a whipping belt. Like Corbyn is the perfect person to take over from a firebrand, once the battle is over and things are in place
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Sep 21, 2019 11:54
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Jose posted:First time I've seen it in the wild https://twitter.com/benatipsosmori/status/1175021691124236289
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Sep 21, 2019 11:58
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Did Thornberry seriously liken the Lib Dems to the Taliban? What the gently caress is wrong with labour this morning? It’s also sad and pathetic to see the media have this much influence over polling numbers. The antisemitism distrust has obviously worked to some degree. But yeah, as always take polling numbers with a whole salt mine.
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Sep 21, 2019 12:03
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I do wonder how accurate polling can possibly be because I don't know anyone of my age who has ever been polled over the phone and the online stuff is all self selected
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Sep 21, 2019 12:03
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jabby posted:https://twitter.com/BethRigby/status/1175352839339687936 But I thought he wasn't there? How would he now be leaking these documents. Not that I'm sure they say what that twitter person says anyway. I'm notoriously bad at comprehending tweets but does that statement say an end to free movement?
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Sep 21, 2019 12:04
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I'll take an end to free movement with Diane Abbott as home secretary over free movement with Sajid Javid or Frontbench Team Christine Sardine as home secretary.
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Sep 21, 2019 12:07
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jabby posted:Except the vote last night proved we have the numbers to do whatever the gently caress we want, Corbyn just lacks the political will. There's absolutely no point making threats, we don't need them to agree to anything. Kicking this into the long grass with a 'review' which will presumably take until conference next year to take effect is super dumb.
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Sep 21, 2019 12:10
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rip the loving band aid off, guys. Jesus
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Sep 21, 2019 12:10
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Gum posted:Ed Miliband liked this tweet Theyve been saying this repeatedly for years. Just before a likely election, with the object lesson of CUKTIG? Na.
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Sep 21, 2019 12:12
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Big Mac's a much better fighter but imo he could never have the kind of broad appeal that Corbyn has on the campaign trail. You've got to already be converted to recognise how loving useful a bit of good old fashioned thuggery is, & we need more converts. (yeh I just made an electability argument, fite me)
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Sep 21, 2019 12:15
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Lansman was a loving idiot for pulling this bollocks behind Corbyn‘s back. No poo poo he reversed it. Sweeping purges of wreckers would be cathartic as hell, and a good idea in the long term, but an completely loving stupid idea at a conference just weeks/months before an election Labour absolutely cannot lose.
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Sep 21, 2019 12:19
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The best thing about Big John is that times interview where he says he could still be arrested for the naughtiest thing he ever did...then after a pause goes haha just kidding.
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Sep 21, 2019 12:19
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Borrovan posted:Big Mac's a much better fighter but imo he could never have the kind of broad appeal that Corbyn has on the campaign trail.
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Comrade Fakename posted:Lansman was a loving idiot for pulling this bollocks behind Corbyn‘s back. No poo poo he reversed it. Sweeping purges of wreckers would be cathartic as hell, and a good idea in the long term, but an completely loving stupid idea at a conference just weeks/months before an election Labour absolutely cannot lose.
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