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https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1176188193647075328?s=20 Everybody on the internet is batshit or paid to be that way.
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Well I’ve known that for three years now. It wasn’t hard to figure out, since Hillary received so many more votes.
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Sep 24, 2019 01:18
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Nonsense posted:https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1176188193647075328?s=20  superdelegates are a small fraction of the total delegates  There, that's the paper.
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Sep 24, 2019 01:24
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whoever did carry on wayward son is the best old guy rock band
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Sep 24, 2019 01:42
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i also like simple man, whoever did that can be number 2
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Sep 24, 2019 01:42
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mandatory lesbian posted:whoever did carry on wayward son is the best old guy rock band That would be Kansas
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Sep 24, 2019 01:44
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Black Sabbath is old enough to be old man rock now just an fyi
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Sep 24, 2019 01:45
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Interesting how whenever we make space for Pete to move left, he moves left.
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Sep 24, 2019 01:46
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Calibanibal posted:Interesting how whenever we make space for Pete to move left, he moves left. Or does he? https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/1176258790225797120
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Sep 24, 2019 01:53
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Slave revolt John Brown?
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Sep 24, 2019 01:57
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HootTheOwl posted:Slave revolt John Brown? It's Pete Buttigieg, what do you think? https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/1176259589089693697
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Sep 24, 2019 01:59
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Its obvious that Ben Jacobs didn't make any space for Pete to move left. Unsurprising, considering the limited space typical of a campaign bus
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Sep 24, 2019 02:01
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We can have both private health insurance and an expanded role for government, brought to you by the darling
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Sep 24, 2019 02:04
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Luckyellow posted:I'm always so amazed at how cheap every single group or politicians will sell themselves out for. I assume it's just another nice side benefit of drowning workers in debt. Makes it cheaper and easier to buy people off.
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Sep 24, 2019 02:11
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twodot posted:Sanders has to pick one of two narratives 1) I spent 28 years shouting into the abyss earning 6 figures from tax payer dollars to accomplish nothing or 2) I spent 28 years advocating for good things while also carefully working with entrenched power to achieve limited goals wherever possible. This is just nonsense. He is viewed as an outsider precisely because he has been fighting against the current all that time.
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Sep 24, 2019 02:11
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https://twitter.com/hell_babey/status/1176269360219992065 weird how this keeps happening
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Sep 24, 2019 02:18
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Office Pig posted:
Most of the people reading this think that "being in a published paper" means "is an incontestable fact." It's basically a religious view of academia as "the place from which facts are spawned."
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Sep 24, 2019 02:28
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Of course Buttigieg is a CCR fan, his appeal to the working class is as fake as John Fogerty's southern accent e: at least we know Beto would say At The Drive In is the greatest American band of all time and that's a better answer than CCR
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Sep 24, 2019 02:32
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What does "a progressive" mean in an 1840s-1850s context? IT seems like an anachronism to talk about anyone pre, say, 1880 as a "progressive". And Brown was almost entirely focused on abolitionism and and the establishment of black communities and businesses. His only real political activity outside of that was an attempt, as a sheep farmer, to break a Massachusetts textile cartel. This isn't a comment on Brown as a person or the morality of his actions, jut that he wasn't a progressive.
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Sep 24, 2019 03:23
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Epicurius posted:What does "a progressive" mean in an 1840s-1850s context? IT seems like an anachronism to talk about anyone pre, say, 1880 as a "progressive". And Brown was almost entirely focused on abolitionism and and the establishment of black communities and businesses. His only real political activity outside of that was an attempt, as a sheep farmer, to break a Massachusetts textile cartel.
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Sep 24, 2019 03:32
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I mean, no? Teddy didn't invent the term 'progressive', he just branded it and aligned his supporters under it. Brown was for sure a progressive figure, in that abolition of slavery at all cost was, ya know, pretty loving progressive for American black people?
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Sep 24, 2019 04:17
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sexpig by night posted:I mean, no? Teddy didn't invent the term 'progressive', he just branded it and aligned his supporters under it. Brown was for sure a progressive figure, in that abolition of slavery at all cost was, ya know, pretty loving progressive for American black people? This feels like a retroactive branding using contemporary terms onto historical movements. Abolitionists wanted abolition, flat out, they didn't want progress towards abolition.
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Sep 24, 2019 04:20
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I think the problem is that labeling people "progressive" or "not progressive" is kinda dumb. A single person can believe multiple things, and "progressive" is already an extremely broad and vague term.
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Sep 24, 2019 04:21
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I'd say that the term "progressive" itself is inherently obstructionist because it implies that a step towards something is acceptable and worth compromising for. "Progress towards" a habitable planet is unacceptable. We must pursue that goal with reckless abandon because the alternative is mass death.
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Sep 24, 2019 04:22
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SKULL.GIF posted:I'd say that the term "progressive" itself is inherently obstructionist because it implies that a step towards something is acceptable and worth compromising for. weren't you just talking about retroactive applications? Do you think, as lovely as he was in other elements, when Teddy first branded it as a political party he meant 'well maybe soon we'll do poo poo like breaking up monopolies' and he just blundered into getting it done? I mean by that logic being an abolitionist was also obstructionist, because what good is 'just abolishing slavery' if Brown didn't also want legal equality and reparations for the enslaved, which he totally didn't because he didn't call himself an abolitionist and...reparationsist I guess?
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Sep 24, 2019 04:30
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Sep 24, 2019 04:58
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Bernie should really highlight this at the next debate.
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Sep 24, 2019 05:10
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Judakel posted:Bernie should really highlight this at the next debate. Yes, Bernie famously hones in on weaknesses of Democrat competitors and viciously attacks. Real show no mercy guy, that Bernie Sanders. Not at all a broke brain take.
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Sep 24, 2019 05:24
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Pander posted:Yes, Bernie famously hones in on weaknesses of Democrat competitors and viciously attacks. Real show no mercy guy, that Bernie Sanders. Not at all a broke brain take. You can think he should do something at the same time you expect that he won't do it. Here's Bernie's: https://www.cfr.org/article/bernie-sanders He's so, so much better on foreign policy issues, it's just night and day.
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Sep 24, 2019 05:26
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King of Solomon posted:You can think he should do something at the same time you expect that he won't do it. That's a good point, but I wasn't expecting that nuance from judaELIZABETHWARRENISSATANkel. king of solomon posted:Here's Bernie's: https://www.cfr.org/article/bernie-sanders
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Sep 24, 2019 05:28
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I didn't see a "night and day difference" between those two sets of responses. Seems like most of their summaries were comparable. Also, attended a Bernie rally in OK this weekend and it was awesome. He wore an OU hat 
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Sep 24, 2019 05:46
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Midgetskydiver posted:I didn't see a "night and day difference" between those two sets of responses. Seems like most of their summaries were comparable. Warren comes off as a huge war hawk, explicitly condemned Palestinians without even so much as acknowledging Israel's bad behavior, endorsed a regime change narrative in Venezuela, completely ignored what South Koreans want with respect to negotiations with North Korea, and put in preconditions to re-establishing the Iran deal, as if they're the bad actor in that scenario. Warren's answers were extremely bad, and Bernie's were generally pretty good.
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Sep 24, 2019 05:52
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sexpig by night posted:Brown was for sure a progressive figure, in that abolition of slavery at all cost was, ya know, pretty loving progressive for American black people? But "progressive" doesn't just mean "support things I like" or "making things better for people". The Progressive movement was an actual movement that wanted to regulate industry by mandating consumer protections, improved conditions for workers, some sort of social safety net and assistance to the poor, slum clearance, and so on. It doesn't become a political term until then, and when it does, it refers to a certain set of ideas (and maybe ironically, something Progressives didn't really care much about was the issue of civil rights.) And I would say that the American reformers in the 1890s (although not so much Teddy Roosevelt, who joined an already existing movement) pretty much did invent the term progressive, at least when you're talking about it as a political term. You don't see the term used a lot politically before then. In the 1850s and 1860s, "progressive" was mostly being used religiously in Christianity, for a doctrine called "progressive revelation"...that the moral law in the Bible developed as humanity became more civilized and was better able to understand God.
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Sep 24, 2019 05:55
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Pander posted:Yes, Bernie famously hones in on weaknesses of Democrat competitors and viciously attacks. Real show no mercy guy, that Bernie Sanders. Not at all a broke brain take. I said he should. Why can't you read? Pander posted:That's a good point, but I wasn't expecting that nuance from judaELIZABETHWARRENISSATANkel. Ah, so you're just a moron then. Elizabeth Warren being a lovely candidate is a nuanced take, by the way.
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Sep 24, 2019 06:15
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Office Pig posted:I'd actually say it's pretty obvious what the desk troop who covered up murders and promoted white supremacy within the police force wants to replace neoliberalism with. Pete Buttigieg is the American Ernst Rohm, aka gay Nazi: -https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Röhm tylersayten fucked around with this message at 06:51 on Sep 24, 2019 |
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Sep 24, 2019 06:47
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HootTheOwl posted:Was this still in doubt? They refuse to give Sanders any meaningful air time or any poll that shows him winning. They learned their lesson from Trump: don't give the guy you don't like free air time. Lol, they didn't learn a lesson from Trump. They know what they're doing and they knew what they were doing in '15-16.
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Sep 24, 2019 07:25
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Pete is like a living galaxy brain; I can only imagine he simply repeats agendas that were handed to him because every time he becomes unmoored from his stump he endorses rejecting his own agenda.
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Sep 24, 2019 12:02
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Bernie should say Trump probably doesn't have enough wealth to worry about his newly proposed wealth tax
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Sep 24, 2019 13:12
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