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Balon posted:So that recent survey asked an interesting question: if you could get any 5 (non RL) cards reprinted what would you choose? Wrenn and six
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Balon posted:So that recent survey asked an interesting question: if you could get any 5 (non RL) cards reprinted what would you choose? Cavern of Souls at rare
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Sep 24, 2019 16:30
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Retromancer posted:can someone with better knowledge of the rules explain something to me? someone told me that the comma in the middle of Urza, Lord High Artificer's 3rd ability means that abilities can be activated in the middle of it. For instance, you could spend five to activate him, shuffle your library, then activate a scroll rack to put something on top before flipping the top card of your deck. A judge friend of mine confirmed this is how it works, but it seems counterintuitive to everything I know about the stack. Can someone explain this? it seems like the question has been answered, but there's also just a logical way to get at this. the effect (shuffle first, then show the card) is unmistakably intended to prevent you from having influence on what card is flipped by putting a specific card on the top of the deck. it would be an insanely stupid and unfun to have an edge case that let you do exactly what the ability was designed to bar you from doing (with no real restriction) just by knowing the precise parsing of the rules. evilweasel fucked around with this message at 16:34 on Sep 24, 2019 |
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Sep 24, 2019 16:31
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Rings of brighthearth, Scroll Rack, Mox Opal, Chalice, Mana Crypt Artifact Masters, lets go.
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Sep 24, 2019 16:33
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evilweasel posted:it seems like the question has been answered, but there's also just a logical way to get at this. the effect (shuffle first, then show the card) is unmistakably intended to prevent you from having influence on what card is flipped by putting a specific card on the top of the deck. it would be an insanely stupid and unfun to have an edge case that let you do exactly what the ability was designed to bar you from doing (with no real restriction) just by knowing the precise parsing of the rules. being stupid and unfun has never stopped rulings before. Most cards that have turned out broken have been because of weird edge cases that snap the intent of the card over their knee.
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Sep 24, 2019 16:37
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Balon posted:So that recent survey asked an interesting question: if you could get any 5 (non RL) cards reprinted what would you choose? The five Zendikar fetches. (And Blackcleave Cliffs) For non-lands: Mox Opal, Wrenn & Six, Mana Crypt, Stoneforge Mystic, and Ugin, the Spirit Dragon Other poo poo that needs reprints for dumb scarcity reasons: Bloom Tender, Sliver Legion, Trinisphere, Liliana the Last Hope, Gemstone Caverns, Oracle of Mul Daya
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Sep 24, 2019 16:38
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Retromancer posted:being stupid and unfun has never stopped rulings before. Most cards that have turned out broken have been because of weird edge cases that snap the intent of the card over their knee. yeah but this wouldn't really be an "edge case" it would be that the first half of the ability doesn't apply if you have an instant-speed way to stack the top of your deck, which most of them are, and know this bizarre ruling it's not an edge case where you can do something unexpected it's just "lol the rules don't apply as written"
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Sep 24, 2019 16:38
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Balon posted:So that recent survey asked an interesting question: if you could get any 5 (non RL) cards reprinted what would you choose? Goblin Settler Oubliette Sliver Legion Gorilla Shaman Dryad Arbor with the art everyone hates except me
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Sep 24, 2019 16:42
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GoutPatrol posted:Dryad Arbor with the art everyone hates except me This is the worst thing anyone has ever posted in this thread
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Sep 24, 2019 17:32
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MikeCrotch posted:This is the worst thing anyone has ever posted in this thread Reprint Gitaxian Probe into Standard.
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Sep 24, 2019 17:34
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Voyager I posted:Reprint Gitaxian Probe into Standard. That really wouldn't be that bad, though, assuming they didn't manage to put it in the same Standard format as one of the mechanics that lets you get massive value from it. (Delve, Pyromancer/Mentor, any other free cantrip value effects) Not saying it would improve Standard, but it probably wouldn't be a disaster. It's already banned/restricted in all the formats where it needs to be, and reprinting it into Standard wouldn't change that.
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Sep 24, 2019 17:44
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Balon posted:So that recent survey asked an interesting question: if you could get any 5 (non RL) cards reprinted what would you choose? Chromatic Star hasn't seen a reprint in 12 years. I am not sure why it wasn't in any of the Modern Masters sets. It's just such an easy common to throw in, isn't it? Same with Manamorphose. Also if they'd have bothered reprinting Mox Opal into the ground like they printed Tarmogoyfs, then maybe they would be able to ban it without banning a $110 card.
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Sep 24, 2019 17:45
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Reprint Manamorphose
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Sep 24, 2019 17:51
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Cavern of Souls needs a reprint worse than any other card because 1) it does something no other card can do 2) tribal play styles are cool and should be encouraged 3) its seventy loving dollars
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Sep 24, 2019 18:03
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GoutPatrol posted:Dryad Arbor with the art everyone hates except me MikeCrotch posted:This is the worst thing anyone has ever posted in this thread loving 
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Sep 24, 2019 18:10
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Ally fastlands. There's no loving reason I should have to pay $45 for the third best BR dual land
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Sep 24, 2019 18:12
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Balon posted:So that recent survey asked an interesting question: if you could get any 5 (non RL) cards reprinted what would you choose? My answer: Underground Sea Volcanic Island Tropical Island Tundra Bayou They didn't say non-reserved.
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Sep 24, 2019 18:14
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Print Auntie’s Hovel so I don’t have to pay 120$ for very bad lands
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Sep 24, 2019 18:23
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Retromancer posted:Rings of brighthearth, Scroll Rack, Mox Opal, Chalice, Mana Crypt I would draft the hell out of a set that was all artifacts, including all the lands and creatures. Only instants and sorceries that are synergistic with artifacts. (A shame about Transmute Artifact being on the reserved list, but oh well) suicidesteve posted:My answer: I assumed that was what non RL meant. Besides, if RL didn't matter, why wouldn't you pick five of the P9?
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Sep 24, 2019 18:34
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Retromancer posted:being stupid and unfun has never stopped rulings before. Most cards that have turned out broken have been because of weird edge cases that snap the intent of the card over their knee. Besides them loving around with the errata for time vault, I’m struggling to think of when this has been the case. Most broken cards have been broken because they wreck the game’s resource balance—fast mana, cost reduction, storm, dredge—not because of weird corner cases of the rules. The only thing the o-ring rules trickery broke was modo.
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Sep 24, 2019 18:37
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The ironworks combo shenanigans definitely counts, imo. (You can sacrifice multiple artifacts in the middle of casting a spell or activating an ability, and then get to put all the triggered abilities from them dying on the stack at once. But only if you do it while casting a spell or activating an ability that costs mana.)
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Sep 24, 2019 18:42
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My choices are purely to have editions with the updated rules texts or something else. Lightning Bolt - Updated with the current rules text. Lord of Atlantis - Updated with the current type line. Sword of Fire and Ice - Updated with the current rules text. Reuse the illustration by Chris Rahn and include the Mirran watermark. Sword of Light and Shadow - Reuse the illustration by Chris Rahn and include the Mirran watermark. Baneslayer Angel - I just hate the core set symbols and seriously it's been nine years since its last non-foil printing.
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Sep 24, 2019 18:45
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Star Man posted:Baneslayer Angel - I just hate the core set symbols and seriously it's been nine years since its last non-foil printing. This is still my favorite piece of art on a magic card.
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Sep 24, 2019 18:48
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Star Man posted:
Here for a moment I thought this was an actual good opinion and then I wasn't 100% sure which artist was which so I looked it up and what the gently caress MikeCrotch posted:This is the worst thing anyone has ever posted in this thread
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Sep 24, 2019 18:53
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Reprint Chaos Orb you cowards.
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Sep 24, 2019 18:57
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Reprint the non-blue reserve list dual lands Plus, uh, black lotus I guess Put the fear of god into the investment community, maybe get them to liquidate their hoards
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Sep 24, 2019 19:04
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JerryLee posted:Here for a moment I thought this was an actual good opinion and then I wasn't 100% sure which artist was which so I looked it up and what the gently caress Look, I just like it when I have a whole cycle of cards done by the same artist. It's like they match. And if you want bad opinions, then here's one: The old frame sucks and y'all need to smash your Coke-bottle thick rose-timted glasses.
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Sep 24, 2019 19:06
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Sinteres posted:Reprint Chaos Orb you cowards. This, but make the rules text metric.
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Sep 24, 2019 19:08
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Jabor posted:The ironworks combo shenanigans definitely counts, imo. (You can sacrifice multiple artifacts in the middle of casting a spell or activating an ability, and then get to put all the triggered abilities from them dying on the stack at once. But only if you do it while casting a spell or activating an ability that costs mana.) Yeah, think I blanked kci from my mind. Point still stands tho
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Sep 24, 2019 19:26
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I said Imperial Seal, Mana Crypt, enemy fetches, Cavern of Souls, and "the reserve list" as my five answers in that survey.
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Sep 24, 2019 20:52
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Star Man posted:
That's a good opinion though
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Sep 24, 2019 21:08
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JerryLee posted:That really wouldn't be that bad, though, assuming they didn't manage to put it in the same Standard format as one of the mechanics that lets you get massive value from it. (Delve, Pyromancer/Mentor, any other free cantrip value effects) Git Probe has the same problem as stuff like Faithless Looting where R&D have to be constantly aware of what they print for fear of breaking everything
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Sep 24, 2019 21:09
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Star Man posted:Look, I just like it when I have a whole cycle of cards done by the same artist. It's like they match. i like the old artifact frame but its a worthy death to not have the other frames around
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Sep 24, 2019 21:39
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JerryLee posted:Here for a moment I thought this was an actual good opinion and then I wasn't 100% sure which artist was which so I looked it up and what the gently caress Nah, the MM art for the Swords is gorgeous.
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Sep 24, 2019 21:43
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Some Numbers posted:Nah, the MM art for the Swords is gorgeous. They're not low-quality art, but they're pretty generic fantasy. The Darksteel ones have that those cool stylized backgrounds.
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Sep 24, 2019 22:01
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Every time I play EDH with old and new cards, it strikes me all over again how cool and flavorful the old frames were. You can definitely fit more text onto the new ones though, so I think aesthetically you can prefer the old ones while still accepting the new ones actively make the game better
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Sep 24, 2019 22:55
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suicidesteve posted:My answer:
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Sep 24, 2019 23:14
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Mox Diamond/Crome Mox/Mox Opal/Mana Crypt/Mana Vault. Wotc too cowardly to print the products commander players need, instead of Butcher of Malakir again.
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Sep 24, 2019 23:40
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:Every time I play EDH with old and new cards, it strikes me all over again how cool and flavorful the old frames were. Probably neither is the actual ideal frame; the old ones definitely have more fantasy character whereas the new ones have fewer legibility issues. I think there's a middle ground somewhere-- the Planar Chaos frames would be a step in the right direction-- but unfortunately at this point it looks like they won't ever be arsed to go implement it. The new frames are 15+ years old and have never been meaningfully iterated upon (I'm not counting minor changes for this or that gimmick, nor the M15 changes).
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InterrupterJones posted:Cavern of Souls at rare Cavern of Souls at fixed. PJOmega fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Sep 25, 2019 |
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