UKMT September 2019 - A Fish-Abandoning Government

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Communist Thoughts: Jan 7, 2008; Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!

OwlFancier posted:

Because the BBC's directorate is politically appointed and always has been.

yeah during the new labour days the BBC was pretty hostile to the tories and carried a lot of water for the blair government. though they did try to protect david kelly before blair had him killed

its a state broadcaster like pressTV or RT, or even AJ, you can trust it as long as its not talking about anything of interest to the ruling government

after the tories took over one of Osbornes big wheezes was to basically totally gently caress the BBC and get in all the creepy tabloid fixers, there was even a breif period where the BBC colours got changed to tory blue but that was too on the nose so they changed it back pretty quickly

# ? Sep 24, 2019 18:27

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# ? May 26, 2024 15:27

Beefeater1980: Sep 12, 2008; My God, it's full of Horatios!

It�s a combination of things including Cameron making more directly political appointees than before, Greg Dyke losing credibility and being ousted over the Hutton report, the concept of a general pride in public service being eroded by 20 years of turbo-capitalism and a corresponding decline in the prestige that let them tell the government to go jump in a lake and a general polarisation of society and loss of faith in the concept of politically neutral institutions.

Topically, the judiciary is one of the last institutions that people actually believe to be politically independent, and it has just demonstrated, more or less, that it is.

# ? Sep 24, 2019 18:28

PST: Jul 5, 2012; If only Milliband had eaten a vegan sausage roll instead of a bacon sandwich, we wouldn't be in this mess.

Yoshi Wins posted:

Has it historically whiplashed this badly with a change in leadership? Or is it particularly brazen this time?

Particularly brazen. Cameron et al had a temper tantrum about ever being called to account for anything. BBC went further right, they doubled down on their 'both sides' presentation, that has since resulted in the giving equal credit and time to anti-vaxx conspiracy theorists vs immunologists, or idiots versus climatologists.

During the whole brexit process, along the thousands of unchallenged lies they presented both a Cambridge science professor talking about how this would lead to a reduction in EU science investment in the UK, and a Cambridge historian saying it wouldn't. They pointedly didn't point out that one actually was an expert on the subject, and the other had written some books that had nothing to do with it at all.

# ? Sep 24, 2019 18:29

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

OwlFancier posted:

Still makes more sense that brexit.

lol

PST posted:

Thanks!

# ? Sep 24, 2019 18:30

bump_fn: Apr 12, 2004; _{two of them}

its a good account
https://twitter.com/JackkJazz/status/1176247835622350849

# ? Sep 24, 2019 18:31

forkboy84: Jun 13, 2012; Corgis love bread. And Puro

Guavanaut posted:

Someone post the facebook comment listing all the appointments.

I can never find it, but I did find this on FB.

God I love this oh so very much. Nazi punks gently caress off.

(side note, just noticed that Skrewdriver before they went Nazi had a Peel Session.

PST posted:

So, listen, real talk time.

Brexit's my job, it's in my job title. I've been doing one form or another of risk management or project management for companies affected by Brexit for the last 3 years. And it's really stressful, I deal with the poo poo in work, and away from work. I've had to explain that 'no, being more positive about brexit will not magically make things better' in a conference call with DExEU.

I've seen really, really awful predictions, beyond what's in Yellowhammer. Dr David Nicholl's mention of mortality statistics was definitely not a surprise to me.

I take breaks from talking about it, I've even taken work breaks to do volunteer work to feel better about myself for a time, back when we were finalising redundancies. Because focusing on the awful every day, gets depressing, and you need to find ways to deal. There are times I post a lot, times I deal with it a lot, and times I just focus on other things socially, to take a break where I can.

You don't have to be continually negative, you don't have to take whatever small gains, or positive events happen and then look for how to poo poo on them because of your negativity.

You can take a break. You can not drag everyone else down. I don't know what your situation is, but you don't have to constantly post how everything will get worse, and nothing will get better.

It's quite possible it will, but you posting 'i told you so' won't help anyone either.

Please, please stop focusing on the negative, find something positive to enjoy, to feel better about, or find a way to just avoid brexit/uk politics/us politics/whatever is causing this for a while.

It's okay, I bought the DS9 boxset so things are already coming up Milhouse. (That particular post was meant in jest because I really did feel an overwhelming sense of hope from listening to him but I take the point that I can trend towards the pessimistic ever so slightly.)

# ? Sep 24, 2019 18:34

bump_fn: Apr 12, 2004; _{two of them}

PST posted:

So, listen, real talk time.

Brexit's my job, it's in my job title. I've been doing one form or another of risk management or project management for companies affected by Brexit for the last 3 years. And it's really stressful, I deal with the poo poo in work, and away from work. I've had to explain that 'no, being more positive about brexit will not magically make things better' in a conference call with DExEU.

I've seen really, really awful predictions, beyond what's in Yellowhammer. Dr David Nicholl's mention of mortality statistics was definitely not a surprise to me.

I take breaks from talking about it, I've even taken work breaks to do volunteer work to feel better about myself for a time, back when we were finalising redundancies. Because focusing on the awful every day, gets depressing, and you need to find ways to deal. There are times I post a lot, times I deal with it a lot, and times I just focus on other things socially, to take a break where I can.

You don't have to be continually negative, you don't have to take whatever small gains, or positive events happen and then look for how to poo poo on them because of your negativity.

You can take a break. You can not drag everyone else down. I don't know what your situation is, but you don't have to constantly post how everything will get worse, and nothing will get better.

It's quite possible it will, but you posting 'i told you so' won't help anyone either.

Please, please stop focusing on the negative, find something positive to enjoy, to feel better about, or find a way to just avoid brexit/uk politics/us politics/whatever is causing this for a while.

yo leak that poo poo to some journalists thanks

# ? Sep 24, 2019 18:35

Cerebral Bore: Apr 21, 2010; Fun Shoe

bump_fn posted:

its a good account
https://twitter.com/JackkJazz/status/1176247835622350849

Extremely unfair that Corbyn gets his way just because he had a majority of delegates support his opinions.

# ? Sep 24, 2019 18:36

forkboy84: Jun 13, 2012; Corgis love bread. And Puro

bump_fn posted:

yo leak that poo poo to some journalists thanks

Sadly not sure many journalists will think "Something Awful poster is a bit sadbrains" is newsworthy.

(I know that's not what you meant, that's the joke)

# ? Sep 24, 2019 18:38

kecske: Feb 28, 2011; it's round, like always

is the speech up on youtube yet?

e: thanks cspam thread

https://youtu.be/svCXfetnTWs

# ? Sep 24, 2019 18:41

BizarroAzrael: Apr 6, 2006; "That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."

https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1176527670810730497?s=19

Sounds cool!

# ? Sep 24, 2019 18:42

CyberPingu: Sep 15, 2013; If you're not striving to improve, you'll end up going backwards.

BizarroAzrael posted:

https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1176527670810730497?s=19

Sounds cool!

Kunnesberg: "Corbyn wants to start his own drugs lab"

# ? Sep 24, 2019 18:49

Tarnop: Nov 25, 2013; Pull me out

Camrath posted:

NGL comrades, teared up during the Red Flag even if the singer was off key. loving amazing speech.

Very much the same, and at several points mid-speech too.

I've got hope, because otherwise what's the point.

# ? Sep 24, 2019 18:49

Rigged Death Trap: Feb 13, 2012; BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

CyberPingu posted:

Kunnesberg: "Corbyn wants to start his own drugs lab"

Labour rose blotter sheets

# ? Sep 24, 2019 18:53

Dead Goon: Dec 13, 2002; No Obvious Flaws

Jeremy Corbyn is Heisenberg, wants to get are kids hooked on meth.

# ? Sep 24, 2019 18:55

Pistol_Pete: Sep 15, 2007; Oven Wrangler

Hentai Jihadist posted:

yeah during the new labour days the BBC was pretty hostile to the tories and carried a lot of water for the blair government. though they did try to protect david kelly before blair had him killed

its a state broadcaster like pressTV or RT, or even AJ, you can trust it as long as its not talking about anything of interest to the ruling government

after the tories took over one of Osbornes big wheezes was to basically totally gently caress the BBC and get in all the creepy tabloid fixers, there was even a breif period where the BBC colours got changed to tory blue but that was too on the nose so they changed it back pretty quickly

Yeah, I remember those days: the BBC always (consciously or unconsciously) shifts their editorial line in favour of the currently dominant party. If Corbyn got in with a strong majority, Andrew Marr would be brown-nosing him in no time, before going on to angrily shout down whatever spokesperson the Tory opposition had put up.

# ? Sep 24, 2019 18:56

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

I doubt that, it's still gonna be full of tories, but the labour government can and should rain hell on them.

# ? Sep 24, 2019 18:57

WhatEvil: Jun 6, 2004; Can't get no luck.

Tarnop posted:

Very much the same, and at several points mid-speech too.

I've got hope, because otherwise what's the point.

Yeah same. Wasn't expecting it but the Red Flag got me slightly emotional.

Good poo poo. They're the only ones offering any actual hope.

I know I'm not in the UK anymore but I still feel very passionately about the state of the UK and more socialism is good internationally too.

# ? Sep 24, 2019 18:58

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

CyberPingu posted:

Kunnesberg: "Corbyn wants to start his own drugs lab"

This is relevant to my interests.

Corbyn's going to buy only the fairest trade Bolivian coca from Marxist co-operatives, refine it into a chemically pure and stable product that performs as advertised, share the profit equally, and troll the gently caress out of George Osborne by constantly texting him "10 minutes yeah" and not showing.

# ? Sep 24, 2019 18:59

forkboy84: Jun 13, 2012; Corgis love bread. And Puro

https://twitter.com/bbcnickrobinson/status/1176555944689487872?s=20

Weirdly positive from Nick Robinson.

# ? Sep 24, 2019 19:03

quidditch it and quit it: Oct 11, 2012

The shitweasel Tory MP local to me, Derek Thomas, was just on the BBC saying that he totally supported Boris� proroguing of parliament because �it�s not like he knew it was illegal�.

Slippery little fucker clinging on for dear life.

# ? Sep 24, 2019 19:05

Oscar Romeo Romeo: Apr 16, 2010

goddamnedtwisto posted:

The only real plus of the last 40 years living on the Isle of Dogs has been the coming of the DLR, where you can sit at the front and pretend to drive it. People who take those seats and just read or play on their phone should be thrown out like the Nazis in Last Crusade.

Move to the Kent coast and use the real tiny train world, which during its active seasons runs a regular service. Its great fun getting this thing from Hythe to Dungeness for a few pints and some chippies.

# ? Sep 24, 2019 19:08

DiscoWitch: Oct 16, 2009; uwu

Rigged Death Trap posted:

Labour rose blotter sheets

I'll take eight!

# ? Sep 24, 2019 19:14

Pablo Bluth: Sep 7, 2007; I've made a huge mistake.

BizarroAzrael posted:

https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1176527670810730497?s=19

Sounds cool!

If God was nice, the turn of events would be: Labour win, get to form their generic drug company, then save millions of Americans from death/poverty by selling them fairly priced insulin branded as The Socialist Medicine Company (TM).

# ? Sep 24, 2019 19:25

That Italian Guy: Jul 25, 2012; We need the equivalent of the shrimp = small pastry avatar, but for ambulances and their mysteries now.

That Labour program sound sweet af. Anyone got a handy bullet point list of all the major proposal?

# ? Sep 24, 2019 19:25

Lobster God: Nov 5, 2008

https://twitter.com/Jpiinks/status/1176555483878043649?s=19

# ? Sep 24, 2019 19:29

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

Pablo Bluth posted:

If God was nice, the turn of events would be: Labour win, get to form their generic drug company, then save millions of Americans from death/poverty by selling them fairly priced insulin branded as The Socialist Medicine Company (TM).

I was wondering that, it could be like the opium war, except, like, the opposite :v:

# ? Sep 24, 2019 19:29

Spangly A: May 14, 2009; God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

Lobster God posted:

https://twitter.com/Jpiinks/status/1176555483878043649?s=19

cant believe wasteman on the phone didn't say plane crash

# ? Sep 24, 2019 19:30

Ratjaculation: Aug 3, 2007

Pablo Bluth posted:

If God was nice, the turn of events would be: Labour win, get to form their generic drug company, then save millions of Americans from death/poverty by selling them fairly priced insulin branded as The Socialist Medicine Company (TM).

Jeremy's Affordable Medicine, inc.

# ? Sep 24, 2019 19:30

Angrymog: Jan 30, 2012; Really Madcats

Oscar Romeo Romeo posted:

Move to the Kent coast and use the real tiny train world, which during its active seasons runs a regular service. Its great fun getting this thing from Hythe to Dungeness for a few pints and some chippies.

IIRC it still runs two trains a day in the off season because people use it as a real train. Also it is lovely, and Dungeness is a pretty amazing place.

# ? Sep 24, 2019 19:30

RockyB: Mar 8, 2007; Dog Therapy: Shockingly Good

Christ, I think I almost had my first anxiety attack on public transport today.

Wading through a 10cm deep lake in business shoes to get to the train station this morning. Annoying, but not too bad. On the way home, walked to Liverpool Street. Met line closed due to flooding. Walked to Bank. 15 sweaty, claustrophobic minutes getting to the central line ticket barrier. Paper ticket didn't work. Glares all around, fight across the crowd to the one place with actual staff. Then stuck nose to armpit on a rammed tube with shaky legs and a cold sweat.

Now I'm waiting for a train, any train, delayed by a tree on the line. No the ticket didn't work on any of the gates up to here, apparently they just die when it gets a bit damp.

Anyway, thank you for reading my E/N thread. Up the reds.

# ? Sep 24, 2019 19:31

moostaffa: Apr 2, 2008; People always ask me about Toad, It's fantastic. Let me tell you about Toad. I do very well with Toad. I love Toad. No one loves Toad more than me, BELIEVE ME. Toad loves me. I have the best Toad.

That Italian Guy posted:

That Labour program sound sweet af. Anyone got a handy bullet point list of all the major proposal?

You poor? We got you fam.
You rich? gently caress you.

Also Boris bad

RockyB posted:

Paper ticket didn't work.

Yeah, don't bother with tickets. Stick it to the man

e2: I just got home and catching up on Channel4 News youtube livestream on 150% speed. It's not bad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNNTR3iAqw8

moostaffa fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Sep 24, 2019

# ? Sep 24, 2019 19:31

happyhippy: Feb 21, 2005; Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup; Pillbug

BizarroAzrael posted:

https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1176527670810730497?s=19

Sounds cool!

That's where they'll get you.
They'll put communism in the flu jabs!

# ? Sep 24, 2019 19:38

Sanitary Naptime: May 29, 2006; MIWK!

Maugrim posted:

I am looking forward to watching this in full with subtitles after the kids are in bed

Talking of which Rarity any luck subbing the podcast?

We found some software to dictate it and it was a loving disaster.

It�s not been abandoned though, but it�s gonna be harder than we thought.

# ? Sep 24, 2019 19:45

Pencils R Cool: Feb 16, 2011

I wish the BBC would just drop Vox Pops from their news reports (spoiler: they're quick and dirty propaganda tools so of course they won't). Was quite enjoying the news until I had to hear from Mr Gammon in Stoke who thinks "we should just Get On With It" and his close associate Mr Thumb who thinks "Boris has Britain's best interests at heart".

# ? Sep 24, 2019 19:46

shas: Jul 27, 2011

Oscar Romeo Romeo posted:

Move to the Kent coast and use the real tiny train world, which during its active seasons runs a regular service. Its great fun getting this thing from Hythe to Dungeness for a few pints and some chippies.

During WW2 they made correspondingly tiny armoured trains:

# ? Sep 24, 2019 19:47

PriorMarcus: Oct 17, 2008; ASK ME ABOUT BEING ALLERGIC TO POSITIVITY

I'm going to be staying in London at the end of October for a holiday/tourist stuff. Any suggestions for good, cheap hotels that are easy to get to and from?

And if not what is better, Clapham or Chiswick?

# ? Sep 24, 2019 19:48

Sanitary Naptime: May 29, 2006; MIWK!

mehall posted:

Not with that attitude it isn't.

(I'll try and make this one, I don't think I have any other sisters birthdays and I'm pretty sure it's this weekend I'm on call)

If there aren�t four of us then we�re not podcast quorate so it doesn�t count.

Sanitary Naptime fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Sep 24, 2019

# ? Sep 24, 2019 19:50

Doctor_Fruitbat: Jun 2, 2013

RockyB posted:

Christ, I think I almost had my first anxiety attack on public transport today.

Your have my sympathies. Manchester has emergency roadworks going on in the centre and as such was similarly hosed. Traffic crawling so slow I could out walk it, all buses and trams full, all bus and tram stops overflowing with people; I walked two full miles to a suitable train station and just barely squeezed on.

Waiting for takeaway now, gently caress this day, except for Corbyn's incredible speech.

# ? Sep 24, 2019 19:51

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bessantj: Jul 27, 2004

BizarroAzrael posted:

https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1176527670810730497?s=19

Sounds cool!

I did wonder why the NHS doesn't do this already. There must have been the brains, will and money there to do it at some point and it seems only natural that they have one.

# ? Sep 24, 2019 19:53

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