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Paradoxish posted:Yeah, it's pretty clear at this point that Republicans are going to turn this into Biden's email scandal. It's meaningless nonsense, but they aren't going to shut up about it for the next several months. It's going to be difficult for Democrats to make sure that the focus actually stays on Trump during an impeachment. Unless CRIMES.mp3 comes out (to the public, a la passed around on social media) with Trump saying some extremely corrupt poo poo CLEARLY without any ambiguity whatsoever, I doubt any of this will be more than a fart in the wind. Why? Because Dem leadership has consistently proven that they have ZERO ability to control the narrative, even when they're obviously in the right. The craziest part is even if Trump successfully dodges this one and spins it against Biden as far as public discourse is concerned, DNC leadership will *still* probably push Biden as the 2020 nom.
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Crows Turn Off posted:Depends on if they can DeepFake some audio fast enough. Wouldn't it be possible to make the case that the most corrupt President and (if it actually happens, first successfully impeached) should have their appointments tainted by association, and thus should be rendered null and void?
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It's a shame the whistleblower won't be able to testify publicly.
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TulliusCicero posted:Wouldn't it be possible to make the case that the most corrupt President and (if it actually happens, first successfully impeached) should have their appointments tainted by association, and thus should be rendered null and void? buh? there have been multiple successful impeachments
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TulliusCicero posted:Wouldn't it be possible to make the case that the most corrupt President and (if it actually happens, first successfully impeached) should have their appointments tainted by association, and thus should be rendered null and void? You can make a case, but Republicans will never give up their judges. Ever.
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TulliusCicero posted:Wouldn't it be possible to make the case that the most corrupt President and (if it actually happens, first successfully impeached) should have their appointments tainted by association, and thus should be rendered null and void? all of the establishment types will line up against this, both parties.
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Oh, did a ton of people think we said something anti Semitic? Feature it on our social media to show we don’t give a gently caress
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it's not even a good line. plus he said it at the UN lmao
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Remember how I said they'd try to distract? https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1176568991722221575?s=20 There's your fox news headline.
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Cerebral Bore posted:"I stopped having a wrong opinion after the evidence against it became overwhelming" isn't exactly a stellar line of defense, especially not when folks on the left called bullshit on the Iron Lady Pelosi narrative years before you wisened up. I'm on the left and nah, most of the criticism was on how left she is(she's not), rather than her control of the caucus. People, myself, included, said in this series of threads that she's a poo poo person but appears to get poo poo done, and then revised that when she didn't do squat. quote:The real dumb thing here is that what you two are doing is basically tantamount to arguing that being able to predict things in advance doesn't actually matter, which is a pretty stunning level of arrogance, gotta say. Actually what I'm saying is that constantly dropping into the thread to "own" the hardcore Pelosi contingent that doesn't actually exist here is pretty sad, but you do you man.
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No Safe Word posted:buh? there have been multiple successful impeachments I meant convicted as well My bad
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"Tomorrow Belongs To Me" - Donald john Trump, as a young boy dressed in lederhosen
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Failed Imagineer posted:"Tomorrow Belongs To Me" Ironically written by two Broadway jews!
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duh, but "official" announcements starting to come out https://twitter.com/LauraLitvan/status/1176569271633272835
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There's effectively no chance of Trump being removed and I'm not even sure how much this is going to matter, but today is still a good day.
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TulliusCicero posted:I meant convicted as well Do you mean Presidents only? Because like dozens of people have been successfully impeached by Congress. I wanna say as recently as like 2010. It's mostly been lovely Federal judges.
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I expect her to announce and implement it in the worst and slowest way possible
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Jaxyon posted:Since I personally said it when it appeared that way in previous administrations, and then quickly dropped it when it became clear that she was going to do jack poo poo in this one, I guess it says my political judgement is pretty good and you trying to present yourself as some rational adult in the room by complaining bout strawmen that ceased to exist years ago, just like happens about 2x a week in this thread, is kinda dumb. "I changed my mind only when my position collapsed under me completely, that's why I'm smarter than the people who were right all along and you should listen to me and not them"
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No Safe Word posted:buh? there have been multiple successful impeachments No need to be obtuse, you should know well that this is one of the most common misconceptions in armchair politicking. Tbf people should really say "impeach and convict" because that's what they almost always mean
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VitalSigns posted:"I changed my mind only when my position collapsed under me completely, that's why I'm smarter than the people who were right all along and you should listen to me and not them" https://twitter.com/mikeduncan/status/1176559957069762560
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No Safe Word posted:duh, but "official" announcements starting to come out loving finally. Hopefully this means it is a lock if Pelosi is on board.
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CuddleCryptid posted:loving finally. Hopefully this means it is a lock if Pelosi is on board. It has always been Pelosi's decision, which is why it hasn't happened until now.
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Zesty posted:gently caress ICE hell yeah
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Unless the Globalists pay cash. Then we love them.
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:I expect her to announce and implement it in the worst and slowest way possible Doing it slowly night be the best strategy, hard to tell
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theflyingorc posted:You can make a case, but Republicans will never give up their judges. Ever. A large portion of dems would fight it too, I'm pretty sure. Once Trump is out, whether by vote or (lol) getting convicted upon impeachment, whoever's next is going to be pushing "Now it is time to return to normalcy, time for the nation to heal" and the pardon factory will have to run extra shifts. Cf. post-Nixon pardon-a-rama
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You know, the thing I'm really thinking impeachment is going to help with is basically slowing down the destruction Trump is doing to everything in this country, especially elections. Trump's playbook is to constantly be on offense and impeachment is going to suck up most of, if not all of, his attention as he tries to fight absolutely everything that is said.
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Absolutely, and a whole bunch of his minions will rat each other out too.
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Dragging it out isn't a bad thing, the goal is to keep the brazen lawlessness of every facet of this administration in the public consciousness for a long-rear end time.
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Flesh Forge posted:Absolutely, and a whole bunch of his minions will rat each other out too. I'm looking forward to his own kids and wife turning on him once it becomes clear that their inheritance is ruined.
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Failed Imagineer posted:missing 2 words haha, was thinking the same thing. Rather surprised it didn't read, "We must secure the future for our children against the globalists...."
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The Glumslinger posted:https://twitter.com/RealPressSecBot/status/1176571750806474752 Infrastructure, Etc. Week
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We should also take note that this will be thought #1 on Trump's brain at all times. There will not be a single thing he thinks about more than him currently being impeached, and he will never shut up about it. He will be miserable and it will be great.
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FizFashizzle posted:Remember how I said they'd try to distract? Who cares? If Fox wants to gently caress this chicken while everyone else is talking about the first Congressional Select committee since loving Watergate, fine.
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Ralepozozaxe posted:We should also take note that this will be thought #1 on Trump's brain at all times. There will not be a single thing he thinks about more than him currently being impeached, and he will never shut up about it. He will be miserable and it will be great. At the end of the day, this is a black mark on his tenure that Obama doesn't have. He'll never get over it.
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James Comey has some opinions about this matter https://twitter.com/MatthewKeysLive/status/1176559285372768256
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