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skylined! posted:5p. Carried by every major network, and probably live on youtube. Imagine if we could parley this into cheney releasing all of his transcripts of his dealings with halliburton's multi-billion corruption during the iraq war/reconstruction All these glorious options to sacrifice some bidens for some real good
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skylined! posted:5p. Carried by every major network, and probably live on youtube. Honest question, would Biden even have access to those transcripts anymore?
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I know people point to the impeachment trials for Nixon being the breaking of the dam regarding his approval rating leading in the end to him losing his parties support and the resignation but I’m having trouble believing that can happen again with the right wing media bubble that now exists to literally stop that from happening again. Not saying it’s not worth doing but I don’t know if the dam will ever break for him baring an economic meltdown. The hearing are going to be broadcast everywhere, likely popping that Fox News bubble. They're certainly try to spin it, but it's going to be insane.
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I will say, now that they're impeaching him, they need to take atleast some time to in comittee to really lay out this poo poo. Start calling in witnesses and put them on the spot, preferably with professional lawyers doing the questioning. Skipping right to a vote would be misplaying this, the time in the house before the final vote is their oppurtunity to make their case to the public. The Senate's rules sure as hell wont let them do it there.
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Oh boy https://twitter.com/ChrisMegerian/status/1176599489240535040
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haveblue posted:Isn't this exactly what May thought too? i am not pretending to tell you how the elections will turn out - not least, because predicting exactly how the spoiler effect plays out in each district in the UK is hard as balls when the tories ALSO have a spoiler - just that the people who look at the polls in the UK think that if Boris got the early election he wants, he would be favored. not guaranteed to win, but favored - and that is a loooooooooooong way away from the dead man walking that people think he would be. the 'remain' strategy seems to be to force him into a delay in the hopes that it breaks his hold on the hard-right "leave" voters, they go back to the brexit party, and the brexit party plays the role of spoiler and torpedos him rather than the greens/libdems/etc playing the role of spoiler to labor
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Christ, I get stuck in meetings all day and like 500 new posts in USPol and the Dems grew a spine. What a day.
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:I think the effect of the ruling is essentially that Parliament just goes back into session. There's nothing in the ruling that says anything actually happens to Boris. Not immediately, but this is the one thing he was put in place to do. If he fucks it up and doesn't get Brexit done by Halloween, he's going to be no confidence'd back to the stone age.
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I've been nervous about impeachment but I think the timing is right. You see if you're gonna come at the king, you best not miss.
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Impactful, because you probably couldn't get the Senate to unanimously agree that the sky is blue. https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1176599864320385025?s=19
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1glitch0 posted:Honest question, would Biden even have access to those transcripts anymore? probably not, and biden certainly does not have the authority to declassify them and then release them
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haveblue posted:Isn't this exactly what May thought too? Yeah, I don't think that Boris expects he will recreate his majority in an election, but the only way he can dig himself out is if he does despite the odds. It's a hail mary.
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FizFashizzle posted:Oh my god imagine if trump decides to speak He is gonna spend the next couple of hours either rage tweeting or drugged up on a couch with his phone taken away
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Ummmmmmmmmmmmm lol trump demanding the info be released because his lackies initiated a coverup on his behalf because he's so loving dumb he can't help but always be crimin' is completely believable.
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Impactful, because you probably couldn't get the Senate to unanimously agree that the sky is blue. What exactly is the R's plan here? That the whistleblower report is a nothingburger, or are they drawing knives for Trump?
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theflyingorc posted:I don't agree with this. Getting people to no longer vote for a bad actor is a good thing. Removing someone's ability to make the choice is not. Voter suppression bad, voter depression just peachy keen. I want to argue that everyone should vote as a matter of principal but you’re 100% in the right here.  Here’s hoping some aide on the inside does a tell-all about Donny watching TV this evening.
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Ornedan posted:Really? All the nazi bullshit? Embezzling tens to hundreds of millions in government funds? No it wasn't simple enough to explain to the Facebook mommies and daddies that are the majority of the American population.
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He's going to throw giuliani out of his penthouse window.
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ewiley posted:What exactly is the R's plan here? That the whistleblower report is a nothingburger, or are they drawing knives for Trump? Since it seems like the whistleblower can and will go speak directly to the House and Senate intel committees, so I'd guess they see there's not really any sense in trying to fight the release of the complaint. Better to be seen complying then spin it once it's out. TGLT fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Sep 24, 2019 |
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So who will be the first TV pundit to ask the question “was this actually a good day for President Trump?”
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Could he have come up with a term that makes him sound more like a sleepy baby who needs his nap.
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ewiley posted:What exactly is the R's plan here? That the whistleblower report is a nothingburger, or are they drawing knives for Trump? Probably get it to the senate so the presiding party can spin it as soon as possible.
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If Trump suddenly resigns and then books it out of the country I wouldn’t be half surprised. He stopped at Trump Tower to grab some briefcases of cash, a fake mustache/eyeglass combo, and new IDs so that his name is Tonald Drump.
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skylined! posted:Probably get it to the senate so the presiding party can spin it as soon as possible. Seems like a risky move, they must be pretty confident there's nothing solid in it.
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Ringo Star Get posted:If Trump suddenly resigns and then books it out of the country I wouldn’t be half surprised. He stopped at Trump Tower to grab some briefcases of cash, a fake mustache/eyeglass combo, and new IDs so that his name is Tonald Drump. Yes I'm sure he will do a thing that his personality disorders won't even allow him to conceive of
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Ringo Star Get posted:If Trump suddenly resigns and then books it out of the country I wouldn’t be half surprised. He stopped at Trump Tower to grab some briefcases of cash, a fake mustache/eyeglass combo, and new IDs so that his name is Tonald Drump. He knew this was going to happen, that's why he stole that jewelry earlier, to fund his getaway.
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Ringo Star Get posted:If Trump suddenly resigns and then books it out of the country I wouldn’t be half surprised. He stopped at Trump Tower to grab some briefcases of cash, a fake mustache/eyeglass combo, and new IDs so that his name is Tonald Drump.
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1glitch0 posted:Honest question, would Biden even have access to those transcripts anymore? Ironically they'd probably be in the obama biden presidential museum or inevitably going to end up there
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The Glumslinger posted:I will say, now that they're impeaching him, they need to take atleast some time to in comittee to really lay out this poo poo. Start calling in witnesses and put them on the spot, preferably with professional lawyers doing the questioning. Skipping right to a vote would be misplaying this, the time in the house before the final vote is their oppurtunity to make their case to the public. The Senate's rules sure as hell wont let them do it there. I've been wondering how the Dems are going to gently caress this up next and rushing it through just to go through the motions in a token effort to appease the base would certainly be one way. Gotta get back to voting on pointless message bills.
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skylined! posted:Probably get it to the senate so the presiding party can spin it as soon as possible. Yeah but it's going to the House, too.
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skylined! posted:He's going to throw giuliani out of his penthouse window. Rudy would just turn into a bat and fly away.
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Holy poo poo the press conference started exactly on time. This truly is a historic day.
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ewiley posted:What exactly is the R's plan here? That the whistleblower report is a nothingburger, or are they drawing knives for Trump? It's a non-binding resolution. Their plan is to pretend they're doing something while actually doing nothing.
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Thanks for loving up traffic for my commute home!
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bird cooch posted:No it wasn't simple enough to explain to the Facebook mommies and daddies that are the majority of the American population. "this guy broke the law by self-dealing" was piss-easy to explain. they just didn't want to. looking into blatantly, constitutionally illegal corruption was just not to be done. for reasons of decorum. wonder what changed, between then and now.
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I just want to say: I would absolutely love it if:
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Flip Yr Wig posted:Yeah, I don't think that Boris expects he will recreate his majority in an election, but the only way he can dig himself out is if he does despite the odds. It's a hail mary. no basically, think of Parliament like the House of Representatives. every district votes, the plurality winner takes the whole seat. it's not proportional representation. about half of the UK is "leave" and about half is "remain", no need to get more precise than that. labor is not a remain party. they have substantial amounts of "leave" voters and corbyn will not campaign on a "remain" platform. similarly, the tories were not a "leave" party - they had lots of "remain" voters. beyond labor, there are some assorted left-wing parties, most notably the Liberal Democrats (formerly a strong third party, but then they sold their soul to join with the tories in a coalition government) who are the only party with a formal "remain" platform. on the right, there's the brexit party, a hard "leave" party. now, you can easily form a coalition when elected: if there's a majority of leftist seats they control parliament even if no one leftist party has a majority. but that is not the case in the actual election. in a labor v. tories election, the real issue is how many seats that should go "left" or "right" get flipped via the spoiler effect (e.g. 10 conservative votes, 8 labor votes, 4 libdem votes goes to the conservatives despite a "left" majority; or 10 labor, 8 conservatives, 4 brexit). so even if Boris only has a solid 45% of the vote, and the other parties have 55% (numbers picked out of a hat) he has a very good chance of winning, IF he can eliminate the spoiler on his side. that is what his plan basically has been: he's moved hard towards the brexit party to try to marginalize them and collect all of their votes, while playing on Labor's inability to come out as a hard "remain" party and thereby steal the conservative votes that he places at risk by going hard leave (corbyn being so far left also assists him there, making it easier to hold onto tory remainers). corbyn can't eliminate his spoilers without coming out as a remain party, and he's been more wishy-washy on that than may was. as a result, boris is favored if he can call an early election, because he may have eliminated his spoiler while corbyn didn't eliminate his. that may change if he's forced past 10/31 and forced to extend.
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