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Catalyst-proof posted:I see Executive Time is going well. Someone’s crying into a bucket of KFC while slamming the Diet Coke button in between each sob. 
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evilweasel posted:what he did is exactly what he was accused of doing in the russia investigation, except this time he did it directly, on tape It's because he's gotten away with it once that he was so brazenly careless. (among other things)
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:So when does Congress need to pass another budget bill to prevent another shutdown because Trump is gonna refuse to sign anything out of spite. November 21st! Just in time for the holidays!
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“How dare you investigate a murder before you have all the facts!”
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So why actually “matters” with this? Like will Pelosi just say “oh we didn’t find enough evidence to actually begin hearings”? What’s the most likely scenario from here? The way I understand- Doing this starting bit of checking for what to impeach on Probably go through the hearings interviews etc. Trump and co stonewall and ignore subpoenas- nothing happens? House votes to impeach Goes to senate Mitch doesn’t impeach? I’m not trying to be pessimistic but what are the scenarios here?
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Ripoff posted:Someone’s crying into a bucket of KFC while slamming the Diet Coke button in between each sob. Don't doxx me please.
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evilweasel posted:i am not pretending to tell you how the elections will turn out - not least, because predicting exactly how the spoiler effect plays out in each district in the UK is hard as balls when the tories ALSO have a spoiler - just that the people who look at the polls in the UK think that if Boris got the early election he wants, he would be favored. not guaranteed to win, but favored - and that is a loooooooooooong way away from the dead man walking that people think he would be. Elections after 2019-10-31, because Libdems declined Labour's proposal of vote of no confidence in the current government => form temporary national unity government of all opposition parties + Tory defectors => unity government requests A50 extension from EU and dissolves itself to trigger a general election. Since that's not happening, the position where Boris Johnson is least likely to be able to cause immediate no-deal crashout is, paradoxically, as leading a government without majority. VONC, but no unity government, would mean no parliamentary oversight until after elections and Johnson gets to set the election date, which he'd set after the current Brexit day.
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evilweasel posted:what he did is exactly what he was accused of doing in the russia investigation, except this time he did it directly, on tape It's really amazing the degree to which his pathology is so underlined. He did it and got away with it with the Russian investigation, and he turned around and did it again like, immediately. Immediately! The same fuckin thing!
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teacup posted:So why actually “matters” with this? Like will Pelosi just say “oh we didn’t find enough evidence to actually begin hearings”? What’s the most likely scenario from here? They're going to get the whistleblower report within a few weeks. Either that's as explosive as all of the desperate attempts to cover it up made it sound, and they press forward with that as the central claim and include all of his other assorted criminality, or that winds up being not good enough and things likely stall through the election.
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CubanMissile posted:The party line. Chris Stewart is on CNN right now saying the same poo poo. Dems don’t even have the facts yet and will end up being “embarrassed” by this like they were about Kavanaugh. Even CNN seems baffled. They're going on about that Trump basically already admitted to most of it so.... you know, what's the deal?
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1glitch0 posted:Even CNN seems baffled. They're going on about that Trump basically already admitted to most of it so.... you know, what's the deal? you go to cnn with the cover-up you have, not the one you wish you had
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senator kennedy just called for an investigation into joe biden's son, comparing it to a crime suspect being assaulted by the police?
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Something mattered so much that evilweasel returned
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teacup posted:So why actually “matters” with this? Like will Pelosi just say “oh we didn’t find enough evidence to actually begin hearings”? What’s the most likely scenario from here? We are doing all that we can. We'll put together the evidence, use expanded subpoena power to investigate, and slap in on the table. If it is bad enough that voting against it will alienate center/center-right voters them the senate will fold and he will be impeached, if it isn't then he won't.
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dredging it back up because it's always fun to play "there's always a tweet" https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/474134260149157888
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teacup posted:So why actually “matters” with this? Like will Pelosi just say “oh we didn’t find enough evidence to actually begin hearings”? What’s the most likely scenario from here? All six committees continue investigating, and likely turn up a fuckload more dirt with enhanced powers because this is now an impeachment inquiry. A vote is held, timing depending on public reaction and also what exactly is uncovered. It goes to the senate where ...??... anything goes. Timing isn't great with the election in about a year; I think at this point ideally they uncover more obvious crimes in about six months and send it to the senate, allow the senate to not convict and the dem nominee to campaign on the many, many crimes uncovered that republican senators handwaived away. Also politico is now up to 181 dems officially supporting impeachment inquiry, although they still show Pelosi as 'not yet' sooooo who knows.
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teacup posted:So why actually “matters” with this? Like will Pelosi just say “oh we didn’t find enough evidence to actually begin hearings”? What’s the most likely scenario from here? buttloads of investigation of All The Crimes with improved subpoena power
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I think the president did some crimes
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GreyjoyBastard posted:buttloads of investigation of All The Crimes with improved subpoena power its not clear to me that actually matters, given that the trump playbook has just been running out the clock rather than winning in court on the previous subpoenas
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FizFashizzle posted:senator kennedy just called for an investigation into joe biden's son, comparing it to a crime suspect being assaulted by the police? He's melting down on MSNBC right now and it's great.
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Dear Mr President, Nice meltdown!
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GreyjoyBastard posted:buttloads of investigation of All The Crimes with improved subpoena power Ah, so the subpoena was sent to train in the hyperbolic time chamber?
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nine-gear crow posted:He's melting down on MSNBC right now and it's great. Yeah we might see a man stroke out on television.
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crimedog posted:I think the president did some crimes wrap it up folks
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nine-gear crow posted:He's melting down on MSNBC right now and it's great. OK I just tuned in and this is amazing, this guy sounds (and looks) like a loving muppet character
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crimedog posted:I think the president did some crimes You would know
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crimedog posted:I think the president did some crimes username/post combo 
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I guess sleep reading through your fascist speech counts as a good day.
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"I agree chuck, and if you were right I would agree with you, but" haha what
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teacup posted:So why actually “matters” with this? Like will Pelosi just say “oh we didn’t find enough evidence to actually begin hearings”? What’s the most likely scenario from here? I mean your scenario is likely, but there is precedent for impeachment proceedings and the evidence uncovered during them cratering the support of a popular-ish Republican President. See: Nixon, Richard Is that likely to happen? Probably not. But even in the worst case scenario, getting GOP senators to vote against acquittal can matter for next year’s election when turnout is likely to be super high already.
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FizFashizzle posted:Yeah we might see a man stroke out on television. So you're saying he's gone even beyond Zell Miller for incoherent southern senatorial rage?
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Tatsuta Age posted:OK I just tuned in and this is amazing, this guy sounds (and looks) like a loving muppet character Chuck grew a goddamn spine, this is great. Holy poo poo.
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Tatsuta Age posted:OK I just tuned in and this is amazing, this guy sounds (and looks) like a loving muppet character When even Chuck Todd thinks you’re full of it you are waaaaaay out there.
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FizFashizzle posted:senator kennedy just called for an investigation into joe biden's son, comparing it to a crime suspect being assaulted by the police? What does that even mean? Republicans are so used to democrats not doing anything they are spiraling. lol
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haahahahahahahahahahah the desperation is amazing. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1176610391058722816
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Lol after the muller report turned out to be useless I guess Trump figured he could get away with anything.
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Reminder Kennedy is probably The Dumbest Senator.
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skylined! posted:Reminder Kennedy is probably The Dumbest Senator. I'm pretty sure Tom Cotton is still a senator
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